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What kind of taxation do you support?
Progressive Tax
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Flat Tax
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PostSubject: What kind of taxation do you support?   Sat May 02, 2009 9:43 pm

Myself support a flat tax.

What about y'all?

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PostSubject: Re: What kind of taxation do you support?   Sat May 02, 2009 11:14 pm

Which is what?

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PostSubject: Re: What kind of taxation do you support?   Sat May 02, 2009 11:33 pm

give a short resume of them please, i dont know about those yet.
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of taxation do you support?   Sat May 02, 2009 11:34 pm

None. I don't acknowledge state or support market economies.

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PostSubject: Re: What kind of taxation do you support?   Sun May 03, 2009 2:15 am

Taxation is aggressive and violent. Even when the end of which is the welfare of the public, taxation is still enforced under the threat that the State will kidnap you (throw you in jail) if you do not surrender your hard-earned money to it.

But, by and large, taxation doesn't support the welfare of the public anyway, so even if I didn't regard taxation itself as inherently wicked I would still argue that the money robbed from innocent people by it still goes to wicked programs (wars, weapons development, arms purchases, etc.) and an even more wicked institution.

Taxation is theft. This is one thing that I wish that the left-wing (I should say the "further" left-wing to be totally accurate) of the Anarchist movement was more vocal about.

I think people are inherently decent, and I think that whatever excess they may make will - and would, if not for taxes - go to support charities that will aid the poor and will support public services. I think that the ends of good deeds (education, health care, etc.) must have good means (charitable and voluntary donations, as opposed to money stolen by force).

EDIT: By the way, since Liche and Tyrong asked, I'll briefly explain each.

Flat tax: tax at a fixed rate.

Progressive tax: it increases as the taxable amount increases. This basically means that the rich pay more than the poor.

Regressive tax: just the opposite from a progressive tax.
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of taxation do you support?   Sun May 03, 2009 2:37 am

Progressive! I want that one!

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PostSubject: Re: What kind of taxation do you support?   Sun May 03, 2009 2:42 am

WeiWuWei wrote:
Progressive tax: it increases as the taxable amount increases. This basically means that the rich pay more than the poor.

Regressive tax: just the opposite from a progressive tax.

Then regressive tax is incredibly stupid.
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of taxation do you support?   Sun May 03, 2009 2:50 am

MightyObserver wrote:
WeiWuWei wrote:
Progressive tax: it increases as the taxable amount increases. This basically means that the rich pay more than the poor.

Regressive tax: just the opposite from a progressive tax.

Then regressive tax is incredibly stupid.

I have to admit that, even though I regard both as being bad, the progressive tax is quite clearly better. I couldn't fathom supporting the regressive tax. It makes no sense to me.
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of taxation do you support?   Sun May 03, 2009 3:46 am

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I have to admit that, even though I regard both as being bad, the progressive tax is quite clearly better. I couldn't fathom supporting the regressive tax. It makes no sense to me.

That's is because you lack the insightfulness and vision capitalists (aka innovators aka beacons of progress). If you get more taxed as your income diminishes it's yet another factor putting pressure on you to make more effort!

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PostSubject: Re: What kind of taxation do you support?   Sun May 03, 2009 3:51 am

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
WeiWuWei wrote:


I have to admit that, even though I regard both as being bad, the progressive tax is quite clearly better. I couldn't fathom supporting the regressive tax. It makes no sense to me.

That's is because you lack the insightfulness and vision capitalists (aka innovators aka beacons of progress). If you get more taxed as your income diminishes it's yet another factor putting pressure on you to make more effort!

lol self-perpetuating problems much?

I love how your sarcasm is always so sneaky. You never preface it with a silly smiley face or anything. It makes people have to actually think about the stuff you say.

By the by, "beacons of progress" made me lol for a good minute or two.
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of taxation do you support?   Sun May 03, 2009 3:58 am

No taxation at all.
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of taxation do you support?   Sun May 03, 2009 4:02 am

WeiWuWei wrote:



lol self-perpetuating problems much?

Problems? Which problems? All runs smoothly!

WWW wrote:

I love how your sarcasm is always so sneaky. You never preface it with a silly smiley face or anything. It makes people have to actually think about the stuff you say.

If people like you have to think about them it's because you lack the inherent intelligence of leaders like say, me. That's why I can run things better than you, and know better than you what you need so I can put you to work doing what is best for you. You pay me for my intrinsic awesomeness.

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By the by, "beacons of progress" made me lol for a good minute or two.

How dare you! Are you questioning that progress is made by those with sacred right of property? By those with the brains to coordinate human cattle?

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PostSubject: Re: What kind of taxation do you support?   Sun May 03, 2009 5:16 am

I demand lump sum (Flat taxes) from the rich and progressive taxes for the rest.
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of taxation do you support?   Sun May 03, 2009 4:18 pm

WeiWuWei wrote:
EDIT: By the way, since Liche and Tyrong asked, I'll briefly explain each.

That was Tyrlop, not Liche, I get them confused sometimes to.

WeiWuWei wrote:
Flat tax: tax at a fixed rate.

More like a tax with a constant tax rate.
Aswell as all the people, the rich, the poor, will be taxed at the same rate. That's what I believe in, that every guy should get taxed at the same rate.

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PostSubject: Re: What kind of taxation do you support?   Mon May 04, 2009 12:46 am

Either progressive or none.
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of taxation do you support?   Mon May 04, 2009 1:23 am

Liche wrote:
Either progressive or none.

I'm curious about your second answer. Since you consider yourself now to be of the Authoritarian Left - a rather vague description, I know - I would assume that you would be in favor of heavy taxation. What other way can the State fund itself without taxation?
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of taxation do you support?   Mon May 04, 2009 1:39 am

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What other way can the State fund itself without taxation?

Du-uh... Without requiring funds, you annie!

Or by selling things to people for awesometastic loads of work!

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PostSubject: Re: What kind of taxation do you support?   Mon May 04, 2009 2:32 am

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
WeiWuWei wrote:

What other way can the State fund itself without taxation?

Du-uh... Without requiring funds, you annie!

Or by selling things to people for awesometastic loads of work!

"Awesometastic" is a fucking great word.

Also, I saw your post in carmen's politpro, and "bibletastic" is also a great word. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of taxation do you support?   Mon May 04, 2009 3:34 am

WeiWuWei wrote:
Liche wrote:
Either progressive or none.

I'm curious about your second answer. Since you consider yourself now to be of the Authoritarian Left - a rather vague description, I know - I would assume that you would be in favor of heavy taxation. What other way can the State fund itself without taxation?
By having everyone work for them, that way the government gets more than they would with taxes.
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