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PostSubject: The IRA   Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:37 am

what are your thoughts on them
I wont say mine.
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PostSubject: Re: The IRA   Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:36 am

You should say yours.

As for me, I don't know their political platform well enough to excert a comment on them, however, for what I have read and understood they're more nationalist than something else. In other words they're simply fighting for Northern Ireland to become once again territory of Ireland and not of UK for what I understand, however they seem to have a left-oriented political platform for which I support to some extent their cause.
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PostSubject: Re: The IRA   Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:22 am

here we go
I think there bigot terrorist with a good cause, but forget the Ireland raided Great Britain plenty of times before the UK touched them.
they kill veterans on there own day because of there religion and race, young men in front of there family's, and kill innocent people because they are protestants (and spare a catholic or 2). in time they could have divided Ireland more civilized.
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PostSubject: Re: The IRA   Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:49 pm

Just as any of these nationalist movements they have botha demi-left and a right wing. I know their procedures are not appropiate, and in general I don't support them.
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PostSubject: Re: The IRA   Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:53 pm

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Just as any of these nationalist movements they have botha demi-left and a right wing. I know their procedures are not appropiate, and in general I don't support them.
have they never thought of what ulster wants?
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PostSubject: Re: The IRA   Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:27 am

Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Just as any of these nationalist movements they have botha demi-left and a right wing. I know their procedures are not appropiate, and in general I don't support them.
have they never thought of what ulster wants?

Well they should make some sort of inquiry, though, if they will follow their agenda regardless of what Ulster wants, then, they'll just have Ulster against and that's it.
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PostSubject: Re: The IRA   Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:45 am

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Just as any of these nationalist movements they have botha demi-left and a right wing. I know their procedures are not appropiate, and in general I don't support them.
have they never thought of what ulster wants?

Well they should make some sort of inquiry, though, if they will follow their agenda regardless of what Ulster wants, then, they'll just have Ulster against and that's it.
Ulster is mostly loyalist now because of protestantism i think
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PostSubject: Re: The IRA   Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:14 pm

Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Just as any of these nationalist movements they have botha demi-left and a right wing. I know their procedures are not appropiate, and in general I don't support them.
have they never thought of what ulster wants?

Well they should make some sort of inquiry, though, if they will follow their agenda regardless of what Ulster wants, then, they'll just have Ulster against and that's it.
Ulster is mostly loyalist now because of protestantism i think

Ah these religions dividing people...
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PostSubject: Re: The IRA   Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:36 pm

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Just as any of these nationalist movements they have botha demi-left and a right wing. I know their procedures are not appropiate, and in general I don't support them.
have they never thought of what ulster wants?

Well they should make some sort of inquiry, though, if they will follow their agenda regardless of what Ulster wants, then, they'll just have Ulster against and that's it.
Ulster is mostly loyalist now because of protestantism i think

Ah these religions dividing people...
of coarse IRA and UVF terrorism may have something to do with it.
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PostSubject: Re: The IRA   Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:58 am

Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Just as any of these nationalist movements they have botha demi-left and a right wing. I know their procedures are not appropiate, and in general I don't support them.
have they never thought of what ulster wants?

Well they should make some sort of inquiry, though, if they will follow their agenda regardless of what Ulster wants, then, they'll just have Ulster against and that's it.
Ulster is mostly loyalist now because of protestantism i think

Ah these religions dividing people...
of coarse IRA and UVF terrorism may have something to do with it.

Though religion is also important.
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PostSubject: Re: The IRA   Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:05 am

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Just as any of these nationalist movements they have botha demi-left and a right wing. I know their procedures are not appropiate, and in general I don't support them.
have they never thought of what ulster wants?

Well they should make some sort of inquiry, though, if they will follow their agenda regardless of what Ulster wants, then, they'll just have Ulster against and that's it.
Ulster is mostly loyalist now because of protestantism i think

Ah these religions dividing people...
of coarse IRA and UVF terrorism may have something to do with it.

Though religion is also important.
if political views, interests, attitudes and hobbies can separate people, why can't religion? someone can get away with hating someone who has a different philosophy, then why can't someones philosophy on how the world was created?
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PostSubject: Re: The IRA   Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:07 am

Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Just as any of these nationalist movements they have botha demi-left and a right wing. I know their procedures are not appropiate, and in general I don't support them.
have they never thought of what ulster wants?

Well they should make some sort of inquiry, though, if they will follow their agenda regardless of what Ulster wants, then, they'll just have Ulster against and that's it.
Ulster is mostly loyalist now because of protestantism i think

Ah these religions dividing people...
of coarse IRA and UVF terrorism may have something to do with it.

Though religion is also important.
if political views, interests, attitudes and hobbies can separate people, why can't religion? someone can get away with hating someone who has a different philosophy, then why can't someones philosophy on how the world was created?

While they can, they shouldn't. And sometimes it's even a contradiction.
And, when hatred is just given "just because" it's simply immmaturity. When you have a rejection towards something it always has to be in an objective way.
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PostSubject: Re: The IRA   Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:12 am

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Just as any of these nationalist movements they have botha demi-left and a right wing. I know their procedures are not appropiate, and in general I don't support them.
have they never thought of what ulster wants?

Well they should make some sort of inquiry, though, if they will follow their agenda regardless of what Ulster wants, then, they'll just have Ulster against and that's it.
Ulster is mostly loyalist now because of protestantism i think

Ah these religions dividing people...
of coarse IRA and UVF terrorism may have something to do with it.

Though religion is also important.
if political views, interests, attitudes and hobbies can separate people, why can't religion? someone can get away with hating someone who has a different philosophy, then why can't someones philosophy on how the world was created?

While they can, they shouldn't. And sometimes it's even a contradiction.
And, when hatred is just given "just because" it's simply immmaturity. When you have a rejection towards something it always has to be in an objective way.
not in my case
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PostSubject: Re: The IRA   Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:15 am

Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Just as any of these nationalist movements they have botha demi-left and a right wing. I know their procedures are not appropiate, and in general I don't support them.
have they never thought of what ulster wants?

Well they should make some sort of inquiry, though, if they will follow their agenda regardless of what Ulster wants, then, they'll just have Ulster against and that's it.
Ulster is mostly loyalist now because of protestantism i think

Ah these religions dividing people...
of coarse IRA and UVF terrorism may have something to do with it.

Though religion is also important.
if political views, interests, attitudes and hobbies can separate people, why can't religion? someone can get away with hating someone who has a different philosophy, then why can't someones philosophy on how the world was created?

While they can, they shouldn't. And sometimes it's even a contradiction.
And, when hatred is just given "just because" it's simply immmaturity. When you have a rejection towards something it always has to be in an objective way.
not in my case

What do you mean "Not in my case"? That you can hate just because and still have a justifiable hatred?
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PostSubject: Re: The IRA   Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:16 am

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Just as any of these nationalist movements they have botha demi-left and a right wing. I know their procedures are not appropiate, and in general I don't support them.
have they never thought of what ulster wants?

Well they should make some sort of inquiry, though, if they will follow their agenda regardless of what Ulster wants, then, they'll just have Ulster against and that's it.
Ulster is mostly loyalist now because of protestantism i think

Ah these religions dividing people...
of coarse IRA and UVF terrorism may have something to do with it.

Though religion is also important.
if political views, interests, attitudes and hobbies can separate people, why can't religion? someone can get away with hating someone who has a different philosophy, then why can't someones philosophy on how the world was created?

While they can, they shouldn't. And sometimes it's even a contradiction.
And, when hatred is just given "just because" it's simply immmaturity. When you have a rejection towards something it always has to be in an objective way.
not in my case

What do you mean "Not in my case"? That you can hate just because and still have a justifiable hatred?
no, I mean i don't hate other religions
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PostSubject: Re: The IRA   Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:18 am

Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Just as any of these nationalist movements they have botha demi-left and a right wing. I know their procedures are not appropiate, and in general I don't support them.
have they never thought of what ulster wants?

Well they should make some sort of inquiry, though, if they will follow their agenda regardless of what Ulster wants, then, they'll just have Ulster against and that's it.
Ulster is mostly loyalist now because of protestantism i think

Ah these religions dividing people...
of coarse IRA and UVF terrorism may have something to do with it.

Though religion is also important.
if political views, interests, attitudes and hobbies can separate people, why can't religion? someone can get away with hating someone who has a different philosophy, then why can't someones philosophy on how the world was created?

While they can, they shouldn't. And sometimes it's even a contradiction.
And, when hatred is just given "just because" it's simply immmaturity. When you have a rejection towards something it always has to be in an objective way.
not in my case

What do you mean "Not in my case"? That you can hate just because and still have a justifiable hatred?
no, I mean i don't hate other religions

Ah, ok. That makes it clear.
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PostSubject: Re: The IRA   Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:29 am

First: don't copy everything
Second: Northern Ireland has declared its loyalty to the UK in more than one referendum. Though I'm a supporter of the nationalist side, I of course would also prefer peaceful campaigns for a united Ireland. But thinking of how just 23 years ago peaceful, unarmed catholic demonstraters, including children and a priest, were gunned down by the english army, thinking how catholics are still getting suppressed in NI, and constant harassment of catholics by radical protestants I have to agree to the path the IRA chose to achieve political power.
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PostSubject: Re: The IRA   Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:46 am

Voice of Reason wrote:
First: don't copy everything
Second: Northern Ireland has declared its loyalty to the UK in more than one referendum. Though I'm a supporter of the nationalist side, I of course would also prefer peaceful campaigns for a united Ireland. But thinking of how just 23 years ago peaceful, unarmed catholic demonstraters, including children and a priest, were gunned down by the english army, thinking how catholics are still getting suppressed in NI, and constant harassment of catholics by radical protestants I have to agree to the path the IRA chose to achieve political power.
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PostSubject: Re: The IRA   Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:06 am

Right being Irish my self I am pro united Ireland.
As for the person who said that the Irish attacked the english before that they where pirates. The Irish where not a singil people that would be like attacking all of the middle east because a single attack was made by a terriorist organisation(shit didn't bush do that).
Any way us Irish are still taking shit from the english even after the rise of our republic.
For example:
1: In 2001 the Irish socailists where forced to barracade the west coast to stop nuclear waste being dumped into our watters.(The english beurocrates didn't tell you that did they?)I was on those ships and even at the age of 8 was out raged by what was happening.I was there but a few hours but I still carry the memories of the terrible working conditions.
2:The english parlament used to control our trade contacts and made them 65% of all of our out ports. After our joining of the EU in the early 90s we sone gained different trade routes(France+belguim buy a lot of meat and germany buy a lot of computer equipment from Cork). This lead to the rise of the celtic Tiger that could have happend on a earlier bases if the english had not kept holding out with the bill to join and then this would allow the joining of great britain and Ireland as the EU did not fully see us as our own country.
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PostSubject: Re: The IRA   Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:13 am

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Comradeclock wrote:
Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Just as any of these nationalist movements they have botha demi-left and a right wing. I know their procedures are not appropiate, and in general I don't support them.
have they never thought of what ulster wants?

Well they should make some sort of inquiry, though, if they will follow their agenda regardless of what Ulster wants, then, they'll just have Ulster against and that's it.
Ulster is mostly loyalist now because of protestantism i think

Ah these religions dividing people...
of coarse IRA and UVF terrorism may have something to do with it.

Though religion is also important.
if political views, interests, attitudes and hobbies can separate people, why can't religion? someone can get away with hating someone who has a different philosophy, then why can't someones philosophy on how the world was created?

While they can, they shouldn't. And sometimes it's even a contradiction.
And, when hatred is just given "just because" it's simply immmaturity. When you have a rejection towards something it always has to be in an objective way.
not in my case

What do you mean "Not in my case"? That you can hate just because and still have a justifiable hatred?
no, I mean i don't hate other religions

Ah, ok. That makes it clear.
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PostSubject: Re: The IRA   Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:15 am

What did voice of reason just say about qoutes?
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