World Republic

Uniting All People!
 
HomeHome  FAQFAQ  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  UsergroupsUsergroups  Log in  

Share | 
 

 "Beatnickzach"

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
Go to page : 1, 2  Next
AuthorMessage
Alek4A
Hero of Socialist Labor
avatar

Posts : 413
Join date : 2008-05-07
Age : 24
Location : America

PostSubject: "Beatnickzach"   Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:42 pm

sorry but zach apparently still lurks this site even though he took down his account and he asked that i remove this thead because it discloses to much personal information...


Last edited by Alek4A on Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:12 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://myspace.com/alekfromarrakis
Liche
Chairman of the Supreme Council
avatar

Posts : 4613
Join date : 2008-01-30
Age : 23
Location : USA-Virginia

PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:08 pm

Ya, we spoke of this some on myspace (I made a new myspace account I'll add you on there) and I didn't tell anyone because I didn't want to impose on Zachs personal information, and decided I'd let you decide whether or not to tell, since you guys were so close I was gonna see if you were gonna say anything.

But I've talked to Zach and picked up he had anger problems. I also noticed he mostly talked about riots and protests, rather than how to actually achieve Communism. I honestly was shocked, but not really that surprised. He's pretty much screwed himself over. Last time I spoke with him, I asked if he was still an Anarchist, he replied "No man, Im union all the way!". I figured he meant he just wasn't going to choose one thing to label himself, but I now see he what he meant. After I said "Cool, so your still socialist" he said "Ugh, got to go" then blocked me.
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.epol.forumotion.com
Tyrlop
Chairman of the WR Committee


Posts : 1853
Join date : 2008-06-01

PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:42 pm

sad to hear... maybe he could start that bungiee jumping? or els he will proberly end up as a hooligan Sad
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Alek4A
Hero of Socialist Labor
avatar

Posts : 413
Join date : 2008-05-07
Age : 24
Location : America

PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:23 am

Liche wrote:
Ya, we spoke of this some on myspace (I made a new myspace account I'll add you on there) and I didn't tell anyone because I didn't want to impose on Zachs personal information, and decided I'd let you decide whether or not to tell, since you guys were so close I was gonna see if you were gonna say anything.

But I've talked to Zach and picked up he had anger problems. I also noticed he mostly talked about riots and protests, rather than how to actually achieve Communism. I honestly was shocked, but not really that surprised. He's pretty much screwed himself over. Last time I spoke with him, I asked if he was still an Anarchist, he replied "No man, Im union all the way!". I figured he meant he just wasn't going to choose one thing to label himself, but I now see he what he meant. After I said "Cool, so your still socialist" he said "Ugh, got to go" then blocked me.

Zach wants to belong to something and be different... i sometimes wonder if he ever truly believed in what he was saying... the least i can say is if it weren't for him i would never have been a socialist and now its almost like watching my mentor turn away from what he taught me
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://myspace.com/alekfromarrakis
WeiWuWei
World Republic Party Member


Posts : 624
Join date : 2008-04-14
Age : 40

PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:54 am

I sent him a message on Facebook. I want to talk to him and hear what he has to say.

It's always sad to lose a comrade.
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://worldrepublic.forumotion.com/groupcp.forum?g=11
Black_Cross
Chairman of the WR Committee
avatar

Posts : 1702
Join date : 2008-04-04
Age : 29
Location : Sisyphean Hell

PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:12 pm

^^^ Agreed.

I hadn't heard this, and i'll have to talk to Zach as well. If this is true, it's a sad day.

Nice to have you back Alek. How did you find out about this? I thought you two weren't on speaking terms.

_________________
"A market economy must comprise all elements of industry including labor, land and money [...] But labor and land are no other than the human beings themselves of which every society consists and the natural surroundings in which it exists. To include them in the market mechanism means to subordinate the substance of society itself."
--Karl Polanyi--
Back to top Go down
View user profile
CoolKidX
Chairman of the Supreme Council
avatar

Posts : 4639
Join date : 2008-02-14
Location : Netherlands

PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:31 pm

Ironic, I mean I saw beatnikzach as a intelectual(kinda) when he spoke his political views. Just wanted to say that, and welcome back Alek hope you will stay.

_________________
"Fuck gotta invade Ukraine" -- Vladimir Putin
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Alek4A
Hero of Socialist Labor
avatar

Posts : 413
Join date : 2008-05-07
Age : 24
Location : America

PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:14 pm

Black_Cross wrote:
^^^ Agreed.

I hadn't heard this, and i'll have to talk to Zach as well. If this is true, it's a sad day.

Nice to have you back Alek. How did you find out about this? I thought you two weren't on speaking terms.

he's upset that i posted this and we weren't on good terms, but i approached him and attempted to sway his decision when i heard about all this and he unfortunately ignored me and as a result i posted this...
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://myspace.com/alekfromarrakis
Alek4A
Hero of Socialist Labor
avatar

Posts : 413
Join date : 2008-05-07
Age : 24
Location : America

PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:14 pm

CoolKidX wrote:
Ironic, I mean I saw beatnikzach as a intelectual(kinda) when he spoke his political views. Just wanted to say that, and welcome back Alek hope you will stay.

i feel the same way, and yeah im here to stay
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://myspace.com/alekfromarrakis
mononokifool
Experienced Party Member
avatar

Posts : 838
Join date : 2008-03-30
Age : 28
Location : Florida

PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:12 am

While we might not agree with his choice it is kind of low to post someones personal information without consent of that person. I don't agree with what he has done but he feels that he had no other choice to do this. When you have no money and no job and times are looking desperate people do things that they might not support. He knows now that he will have a place to sleep, food to eat, money in the bank, and money for college. In this situation it seems like its better to be encouraging that it will not always be this way than to make someone feel like the lowest of lows. I told him "dont do anything that you will regret," and he said he wont and wants to be an on base firer fighter. I know he will be in an imperialist military but he wont be doing dirty work for the government if he chooses that route.

_________________
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Zeronos
ZEK in siberian gulag
avatar

Posts : 244
Join date : 2008-07-03
Age : 23
Location : Tennessee

PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:11 am

WeiWuWei wrote:
I sent him a message on Facebook. I want to talk to him and hear what he has to say.

It's always sad to lose a comrade.

WWW, I demand a link to your Facebook.

Posthaste.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
WeiWuWei
World Republic Party Member


Posts : 624
Join date : 2008-04-14
Age : 40

PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:02 pm

Zeronos wrote:
WeiWuWei wrote:
I sent him a message on Facebook. I want to talk to him and hear what he has to say.

It's always sad to lose a comrade.

WWW, I demand a link to your Facebook.

Posthaste.

Here you go, doggy: http://www.facebook.com/frankpiccirillo?ref=profile

By the way, I agree with mono 1,000,000%.
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://worldrepublic.forumotion.com/groupcp.forum?g=11
Alek4A
Hero of Socialist Labor
avatar

Posts : 413
Join date : 2008-05-07
Age : 24
Location : America

PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:19 am

mononokifool wrote:
While we might not agree with his choice it is kind of low to post someones personal information without consent of that person. I don't agree with what he has done but he feels that he had no other choice to do this. When you have no money and no job and times are looking desperate people do things that they might not support. He knows now that he will have a place to sleep, food to eat, money in the bank, and money for college. In this situation it seems like its better to be encouraging that it will not always be this way than to make someone feel like the lowest of lows. I told him "dont do anything that you will regret," and he said he wont and wants to be an on base firer fighter. I know he will be in an imperialist military but he wont be doing dirty work for the government if he chooses that route.

you dont have the full story at all... he really doesnt have to join the military, he is a better financial position than i am. all i posted was his name which you all know already and might i add that he and i had planned to protest in front of the military recruiters who visit our school not 6 months ago. As far as him being a base firefighter, i was under the impression he planned on being a tanker.
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://myspace.com/alekfromarrakis
enviro
Member of the Supreme Council
avatar

Posts : 2629
Join date : 2008-02-05
Age : 18
Location : bite the power

PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:35 am

you i might have not liked you guys....but i respected you
this is sad...very very sad

alek can we be cool or you still want to be cold....i dont come her often no more, but its your choice
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.jackassworld.com/
Alek4A
Hero of Socialist Labor
avatar

Posts : 413
Join date : 2008-05-07
Age : 24
Location : America

PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:53 am

enviro wrote:
you i might have not liked you guys....but i respected you
this is sad...very very sad

alek can we be cool or you still want to be cold....i dont come her often no more, but its your choice

We're cool
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://myspace.com/alekfromarrakis
enviro
Member of the Supreme Council
avatar

Posts : 2629
Join date : 2008-02-05
Age : 18
Location : bite the power

PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:54 am

YAY
ill try to stay out of trouble
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.jackassworld.com/
Alek4A
Hero of Socialist Labor
avatar

Posts : 413
Join date : 2008-05-07
Age : 24
Location : America

PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:59 am

enviro wrote:
YAY
ill try to stay out of trouble

that would be nice
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://myspace.com/alekfromarrakis
Black_Cross
Chairman of the WR Committee
avatar

Posts : 1702
Join date : 2008-04-04
Age : 29
Location : Sisyphean Hell

PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:23 am

Moved

Alek, you have two of my books, yes? If you're done with them, send em out when you get a chance.

_________________
"A market economy must comprise all elements of industry including labor, land and money [...] But labor and land are no other than the human beings themselves of which every society consists and the natural surroundings in which it exists. To include them in the market mechanism means to subordinate the substance of society itself."
--Karl Polanyi--
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Alek4A
Hero of Socialist Labor
avatar

Posts : 413
Join date : 2008-05-07
Age : 24
Location : America

PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:28 am

Black_Cross wrote:
Moved

Alek, you have two of my books, yes? If you're done with them, send em out when you get a chance.

i only have The state, what was the other one you needed? what's your address?
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://myspace.com/alekfromarrakis
Zealot_Kommunizma
Hero of the World Republic


Posts : 5413
Join date : 2007-12-06
Age : 28
Location : Mexico/Russia/Worl

PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:44 pm

Evidently I'm somewhat late here.

I just talked to Zach yesterday, although I had learnt about him joining the military from CKX almost a week ago. In fact it's been this event that has made me come back. I had been searching for slander reported to me by Zach but I didn't find stuff relating to this topic until now.

I do agree with Mono, although I think it's a bit more complex than that in the case of Zach.

Either way and as much as I hate that he's, at least seemingly, departed from our struggle his decision is to be respected. Whatever his reasons might be, they're valid.

I heard he had been called "hypocrite" by some. To those:

Joining the army doesn't make him a hypocrite. He's got an "easy way out of the toil" by joining the army and we all definitely need a way to substain ourselves economically. What better way to achieve it than by doing something as simple as joining the army in an imperialist nation? It helps you keep fit, gives you a steady financial base, the possibility to travel around the world and may provide you with quite interesting and valuable experiences.

The only way he could be a hypocrite is by pointing his gun while on duty at his comrades. And in all honesty I don't believe he'd do something like that.

Either way, I just wanted to put my unnecesary grain of salt here. This is a topic we shouldn't be really talking about.

I won't tolerate slander against Zach.

_________________
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://unitedrevleftfront.forumotion.com/
Liche
Chairman of the Supreme Council
avatar

Posts : 4613
Join date : 2008-01-30
Age : 23
Location : USA-Virginia

PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:37 pm

I don't really have a problem with him joining the military. Im just upset that hes left us (at least for now). I figure he'll realize he had it right when he was an Anarcho-Communist and come back to the Revolution. Besides, him being in the army might help the revolution, maybe he'll educate some of his Comrades there Smile.

I guess Im just upset over the situation, and Id like to speak to him personally but Im pretty sure he's blocked me on Facebook, AIM, and Myspace.
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.epol.forumotion.com
CoolKidX
Chairman of the Supreme Council
avatar

Posts : 4639
Join date : 2008-02-14
Location : Netherlands

PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:13 am

Quote :
Joining the army doesn't make him a hypocrite. He's got an "easy way out of the toil" by joining the army and we all definitely need a way to substain ourselves economically. What better way to achieve it than by doing something as simple as joining the army in an imperialist nation? It helps you keep fit, gives you a steady financial base, the possibility to travel around the world and may provide you with quite interesting and valuable experiences.

Okay, so if you see soldiers in a army of Western country as "easy surviving", then you shouldn't say "Fuck the troops" or anything, and I don't know if you said that once, but one time you were like "Fuck the army" to 10/17 cuz his brother was coming from Iraq.

_________________
"Fuck gotta invade Ukraine" -- Vladimir Putin
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Liche
Chairman of the Supreme Council
avatar

Posts : 4613
Join date : 2008-01-30
Age : 23
Location : USA-Virginia

PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:45 am

I don't think anyone here has ever said "Fuck the troops".
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.epol.forumotion.com
CoolKidX
Chairman of the Supreme Council
avatar

Posts : 4639
Join date : 2008-02-14
Location : Netherlands

PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:02 am

Liche wrote:
I don't think anyone here has ever said "Fuck the troops".

True, but I remember someting like it, idk anymore.

_________________
"Fuck gotta invade Ukraine" -- Vladimir Putin
Back to top Go down
View user profile
enviro
Member of the Supreme Council
avatar

Posts : 2629
Join date : 2008-02-05
Age : 18
Location : bite the power

PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:50 am

haha i miss this forum so much
just a little off topic question

how many active members are there?
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.jackassworld.com/
Sponsored content




PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   

Back to top Go down
 
"Beatnickzach"
View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 1 of 2Go to page : 1, 2  Next
 Similar topics
-
» Castle Craig Death was "Avoidable"
» Conservative Foreign Secretary Denies "Gay" Rumour
» Rupert Murcoch"s "total" support for Brooks
» "Missing People" go to Downing Street today - and guess who's "Missing"!!!
» so what, pray tell, is a "real" paedophile???

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
World Republic :: Republic Square :: Spamistan-
Jump to: