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PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:09 am

enviro wrote:
haha i miss this forum so much
just a little off topic question

how many active members are there?

Like 5 or something.
WR is a lil' dead.

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PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:15 am

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Evidently I'm somewhat late here.

I just talked to Zach yesterday, although I had learnt about him joining the military from CKX almost a week ago. In fact it's been this event that has made me come back. I had been searching for slander reported to me by Zach but I didn't find stuff relating to this topic until now.

I do agree with Mono, although I think it's a bit more complex than that in the case of Zach.

Either way and as much as I hate that he's, at least seemingly, departed from our struggle his decision is to be respected. Whatever his reasons might be, they're valid.

I heard he had been called "hypocrite" by some. To those:

Joining the army doesn't make him a hypocrite. He's got an "easy way out of the toil" by joining the army and we all definitely need a way to substain ourselves economically. What better way to achieve it than by doing something as simple as joining the army in an imperialist nation? It helps you keep fit, gives you a steady financial base, the possibility to travel around the world and may provide you with quite interesting and valuable experiences.

The only way he could be a hypocrite is by pointing his gun while on duty at his comrades. And in all honesty I don't believe he'd do something like that.

Either way, I just wanted to put my unnecesary grain of salt here. This is a topic we shouldn't be really talking about.

I won't tolerate slander against Zach.

He is a hypocrite because he and I planned to protest a recruiter station six months ago, he's a hypocrite because last time recruiters were at our school his girlfriend got mad at him for calling the marines baby killers and he's a hypocrite because he went to a protest against the war a week after signing up... it's only slanderous if it's a lie.
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PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:11 am

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Okay, so if you see soldiers in a army of Western country as "easy surviving", then you shouldn't say "Fuck the troops" or anything, and I don't know if you said that once, but one time you were like "Fuck the army" to 10/17 cuz his brother was coming from Iraq.

For the purposes that most armies have is that I'm against them. Holding allegiance to an imperialist State and serving as a tool to excert said State's force in order to impose its rule is what I'm against.

I'm not against the individuals who I see as victims of this system.

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PostSubject: Re: "Beatnickzach"   Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:54 am

maybe he joined for a diffrent view
i mean you cant judge others before you go what they go through
he can still hold his ideals and serve

also i have to join the IDF soon so i dont think that the army always reflecs the views of the state
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