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PostSubject: Re: ahh, Stalin's 130th birthday   Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:07 am

I replied clearly enough.

And the battle explains why there was no engagement with the Japanese during the war.

Quote from that link you gave. " The rapid defeat of Japan's Kwantung Army was a significant factor in the Japanese surrender and the termination of World War II."

And if its supposed to be a shot at the USSR, go be a hypocrite somewhere else.
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PostSubject: Re: ahh, Stalin's 130th birthday   Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:28 am

No you don't, you were being an arse, and if you can't reply properly then just don't.

And not a shot against the USSR, though I find it kinda dumb that the USSR made a peace treaty with Japan in 1941 when Japan was already known as a ally for Germany and invading Asian countries. Just saying.

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PostSubject: Re: ahh, Stalin's 130th birthday   Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:44 am

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No you don't, you were being an arse, and if you can't reply properly then just don't.

And not a shot against the USSR, though I find it kinda dumb that the USSR made a peace treaty with Japan in 1941 when Japan was already known as a ally for Germany and invading Asian countries. Just saying.
I replied sarcastically, answering Tyrong by impersonating him and explaining how my opinion differs. And Liche's response wasn't a proper reply, and although I have no problem with it, don't just "prosecute" me, I was being quite serious when answering Tyrong.

Yes, and that treaty was broken in 1941. They just officially declared war in 1954.
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PostSubject: Re: ahh, Stalin's 130th birthday   Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:57 am

That was a responce? Okay....

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PostSubject: Re: ahh, Stalin's 130th birthday   Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:08 am

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That was a responce? Okay....
It explained how my opinion differed, did it not?
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PostSubject: Re: ahh, Stalin's 130th birthday   Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:32 pm

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Even though teh Candians have gained independance from britain, it is still proper to call them British
As I said, before WWI, yeah, it was. We didn't leave our colonial status until we took Vimmy Ridge. By that statement, one, who had more intelligence than a bar of soap, mind you, might deduce that I meant AFTER WWI we would no longer be considered British. You know, those capable of abstract thought.

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Just liek the Soviet republics
Well, since they were under direct control of Russia, and I'm fairly certain some didn't even exist AS countries at the time, I'll go out on a limb and say Russia. Like everyone else on the planet when referring to the eastern front.

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or even under teh russian flag
read above.

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"im original my signature is from a book but i put my name on it
A book I'M writing, you asswiping, cocksmoking, cuntsmelling, asslicking, babyfucking, zitcoverd, mentally distaught shitbag.

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killing homos cuz hitler was pissed useful very much for nazis was.
Considering it was their goal? No. Fucking. Shit.

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killing people is useful for people
When it's one of your entire goals? YEAH!

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avatar is very nice game
Yeah, it was. Very well done, ESPECIALLY for a movie game.

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actually trying to win teh war was a bad decision. tehy should've truned around and got slaughtered and accomplish nothing.
No, fighting on three fronts, and heading straight through a well defended city to cross one shitting rver were bad decisions. Instead of using your momentum to cross ANYWHERE else, INSTEAD of the heavilly defended city, and instead of directly ATTACKING said city, cut it off from supplies and letting it starve wouldn;'t have worked, of couse, because Ruskies are the master race, who's every action throughout time is justified and ONLY an act of retaliation against the evil, mostrous shadow government that is capitalism, in order to defend their superior Stalinism.

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teh japense didng fight teh soviets during ww2
I don't actually have anything for this. When did I say this?

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im not going to acknowledge the battle of Khalkin-Gol.
I've never even heard of it.

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i hate russians
I never said that. In fact, I'm pretty sure I said the western allies would have been wipped out if NOT for Russian involvement. Yeah.... Yeah I think I did.

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im so cool
And know more about science and the scientific world! Go have fun with your frend, Venomfangx. He's back.

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i dont understand one front was harder than teh other
I only disagreed with the numbers. I knew they were higher on the eastern front.

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why didnt any otehr ally have so many casualties?
Well Canada and America just weren't involved as long, and the bombing of Britain stopped, because of the eastern front. Oh, and farmers don't make good soldiers against vetran carrer sodliers, also that.

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i dont care that millions died so im not dead today
I care. When did I say I didn't care? I'm just not willing to say an entire side's worth of death, spending, blood sweat and tears wasn't even NESESSARRY.

I think I properly explained how your opinion is WRONG. And that you're a cuntsmelling idiot.

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PostSubject: Re: ahh, Stalin's 130th birthday   Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:28 am

"Whats that big country over there on the left," says the little child during 1950. "It's what you call a union. You know, a union of Soviet Socialist Republics." replies the other one. "Wait, aren't they all Russian?" "WHAT THE F DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT A UNION OF DIFFERENT REPUBLICS, WITH DIFFERENT CULTURES, LANGUAGES, ETC. THEY ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE." Hey, were the under direct control of Russia, or part of the USSR, you know, the UNION OF SOCIALIST SOCIAL REPUBLICS." "It's true they were under control of the Kremlin, but this Kremlin wasn't Russia - it was the USSR."

[quote=im gonna use all the adjectives i know in one sentence"]A book I'M writing, you asswiping, cocksmoking, cuntsmelling, asslicking, babyfucking, zitcoverd, mentally distaught shitbag.[/quote] sounds delicious.

Goals aren't necessarily useful, and in this case, it wasn't. If it was my goal to go out and shoot the first girl I see, would it be useful? And if you're saying because it was their goal it was useful- well it was they're goal to take Stalingrad. That was real useful."

Reguarding the attacking Stalingrad, it was the best time to attack because it was early in the war, when teh Soviets were disorganized, etc and teh Germans were still at lighting fast speed. Teh Soviets were everywhere, not a bulk of them in Stalingrad. They would have to eventually, and by then the Soviets would've been able to defend Stalingrad even better, plus by then the Germans would have less troops and America wouldve possibly joined the war - even worse for the Germans.

I thought You compared Amrica not fighting Germany until Japan attacked to USSR not attacking Japan.

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I never said that. In fact, I'm pretty sure I said the western allies would have been wipped out if NOT for Russian involvement. Yeah.... Yeah I think I did.
Sorry, I guess I must've missed it. I apologize.

It was't necessary, but it was an understandable result of the situation.

I'm sure you're book will be great.

I'm so glad you're more intelligent than a asswiping, cocksmoking, cuntsmelling, asslicking, babyfucking, zitcoverd, mentally distaught shitbag 13 year old. You deserve a medal.

Wait, what exactly are we discussing? Whether attacking Stalingrad was good decision, or whether Hitler killed the Nazis, or whether all those deaths were unnecessary, or what?
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PostSubject: Re: ahh, Stalin's 130th birthday   Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:08 pm

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It was't necessary, but it was an understandable result of the situation.
No, you could oh I don't know REPLY in a proper way without being a motherfucking kid that can't reply so decides to be a asshole, I mean shit, it was certainly not necessary but it was certianly not a understandable result of the situation. What situation? Debating? That thing you can't do, for the times I tried to debate with you you could not, you should not even reply, ever, on someone trying to debate if you can't and result in being an annoying arse. Srsly.

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PostSubject: Re: ahh, Stalin's 130th birthday   Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:28 pm

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Wait, what exactly are we discussing?
"I" had STARTED by giving a way Germany could have easilly won the war, that is, if he had focoused forced, eliminated one side and focoused after that on the other, preferably bypassing a city which, in case you didn;t know, tends to be something that can be fairly well defended. Asshat.

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PostSubject: Re: ahh, Stalin's 130th birthday   Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:27 am

CKX, don't talk to me.

3 years to fight on one front is enough don't you think? War beagn in 1939. Germany attacked USSR on 1941. It was not Hitler's decision to attack teh USSR, it was his decision to start the war, nonetheless.

Because tehre is only one city in the USSR. Oh wait, do you mean bypass everycity? Other cities which were more heavily defended?
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PostSubject: Re: ahh, Stalin's 130th birthday   Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:15 pm

alexCCCP-RUS-54321 wrote:
CKX, don't talk to me.

Exactly, having a hard time replying?

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PostSubject: Re: ahh, Stalin's 130th birthday   Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:25 pm

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3 years to fight on one front is enough don't you think?
Evidentally it wasn't, so.. No.

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It was not Hitler's decision to attack teh USSR
yes it was.

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Because tehre is only one city in the USSR. Oh wait, do you mean bypass everycity? Other cities which were more heavily defended?
You yourself have said the Russians fought harder for that one city than any other. Germany's generals knew that would happen. If your army treats every city the same, well....

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PostSubject: Re: ahh, Stalin's 130th birthday   Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:37 am

CKX, no, it'll just be a waste of time.

Operation Baraborassa relieved lots of pressure from the Western front for both the Nazis and Allies.

We can only guess.

The fought the hardest in that battle in that war, they could've just as easily fought as hard for any other city. I'm just saying out of the battles they did fight. Its just at that city they were at the banks off the Volga- thay had to fight they're hardest, as disadvantages as they were.
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PostSubject: Re: ahh, Stalin's 130th birthday   Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:03 pm

They COULD have fought just as hard, but it was because Stalingrad was such an emotional victory/loss for the Russian people, it spurred them on, which the german generals knew would happen.

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PostSubject: Re: ahh, Stalin's 130th birthday   Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:04 am

hmm u ppl seem to misunderstand, Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics.

the german decision to attack the stalingrad area was a failure from the start the battle should have been fro moskov the USSR would not have been able to take much more punishment and the USA and UK might have stopped sending aid in fear of it being all for naught.
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PostSubject: Re: ahh, Stalin's 130th birthday   Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:06 am

ONe reason why I say bypassing stalingrad would have been a good idea. Factories are useless wihout materials.

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PostSubject: Re: ahh, Stalin's 130th birthday   Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:45 am

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ONe reason why I say bypassing stalingrad would have been a good idea. Factories are useless wihout materials.
yes but armys are useless withouth railways and oil wich stalingrad would have given the germans, but they woun'd have needed eithere by taking moskov.
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PostSubject: Re: ahh, Stalin's 130th birthday   Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:59 pm

the german forces are described as the iron fist with the spagetthi arm. most because of partisans, partisans played a huge role in the great patriotic war.
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PostSubject: Re: ahh, Stalin's 130th birthday   Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:11 am

Indeed, without the French resistance, the Germans would have had a MUCH easier time doing everything.

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PostSubject: Re: ahh, Stalin's 130th birthday   Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:39 am

Moscow wasn't the center of the USSR at the time- Stalingrad was. It was much more important- maybe not the best decision, but a good one to say the least.

my friends relative was in ww2 and watched one of his friends get a potato smasher put in his mouth by the nazis-
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PostSubject: Re: ahh, Stalin's 130th birthday   Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:49 pm

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Indeed, without the French resistance, the Germans would have had a MUCH easier time doing everything.
Resistance during World War II occurred in every occupied country by a variety of means, ranging from non-cooperation, disinformation and propaganda to hiding crashed pilots and even to outright warfare and the recapturing of towns. Resistance movements are sometimes also referred to as "the underground".

Among the most notable resistance movements were the Yugoslav Partisans (the largest resistance movement in World War II),[1][2] the Polish Home Army, the Soviet partisans, the French Forces of the Interior, the Italian CLN, the Norwegian Resistance, the Greek Resistance and the Dutch Resistance

Many countries had resistance movements dedicated to fighting the Axis invaders, and Germany itself also had an anti-Nazi movement. Although Britain did not suffer the Nazi occupation in World War II, the British made preparations for a British resistance movement, called the Auxiliary Units, in the event of a German invasion. Various organisations were also formed to establish foreign resistance cells or support existing resistance movements, like the British SOE and the American OSS (the forerunner of the CIA).

There were also resistance movements fighting against the Allied invaders. In Italian East Africa, after the Italian forces were defeated during the East African Campaign, some Italians participated in a guerrilla war against the British (1941 to 1943). The German Nazi resistance movement ("Werwolf") never amounted to much. On the other hand, the "Forest Brothers" of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania included many fighters who fought for the Nazis and operated against the Soviet occupation of the Baltic States into the 1960s. During or after the war, similar anti-Soviet resistance rose up in places like Romania, Poland, and western Ukraine. While the Japanese were famous for "fighting to the last man," Japanese holdouts tended to be individually motivated and there is little indication that there was any organized Japanese resistance after the war.
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PostSubject: Re: ahh, Stalin's 130th birthday   Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:10 pm

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my friends relative was in ww2 and watched one of his friends get a potato smasher put in his mouth by the nazis-
horrible
Whoopie. This doesn;t have anything to do with the tactics.

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Resistance during World War II occurred in every occupied country by a variety of means....
Okay, I shouldn't have just said the FRENCH resistance. Sorry.

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PostSubject: Re: ahh, Stalin's 130th birthday   Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:43 pm

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Resistance during World War II occurred in every occupied country by a variety of means....
Okay, I shouldn't have just said the FRENCH resistance. Sorry.
i tough you were being arrogant and was just about to RAGE
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PostSubject: Re: ahh, Stalin's 130th birthday   Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:32 pm

Funny. No, my bad.

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PostSubject: Re: ahh, Stalin's 130th birthday   Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:07 am

ok, stop shitting me tyrong, cuz lots of the stuff youre talking about isnt tactics either
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