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PostSubject: Guys and Dolls   Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:52 am

I found out this video a while ago and then I just got very very shocked at it. I found out it was such a... disgusting thing... So well, I think the video is still very very worth to watch.

https://www.adbusters.org/abtv/guys_and_dolls.html

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PostSubject: Re: Guys and Dolls   Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:23 am

Vid not working. Is this about the Real Dolls?

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PostSubject: Re: Guys and Dolls   Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:19 pm

Tyrong Kojy wrote:
Vid not working. Is this about the Real Dolls?
Yea its about real dolls.

I remember when you first found it and showed it to me my mom walked in, and it was when they were talking about how some guys order them to be hairy and stuff. It was real awkward Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: Guys and Dolls   Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:04 am

I don't see why it's disgusting.

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PostSubject: Re: Guys and Dolls   Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:17 am

As much as respect anyone's personal business so long as it does not affect negatively third parties, I do think this is somewhat sad... Being able to actually consider such an object an "alternative partner" or a substitute to a human companion... not my cup of tea, for being euphemistic.

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PostSubject: Re: Guys and Dolls   Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:18 am

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As much as respect anyone's personal business so long as it does not affect negatively third parties

Well, actually that's not the point... I agree with what you just said. I just believe this is very degrading for women... like if they could easily be replaced only by dolls. Are we nothing more than objects??? This is the message given by such practice.

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PostSubject: Re: Guys and Dolls   Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:31 am

No, the emssage it gives is that relationships are too bloody hard and the person with the real doll can't get a girl. Now, those that actually begin to think of them as people, that's a little much. But no, women are not just objects, and these guys don't think that. They do, however, think women are too damn hard t get.

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PostSubject: Re: Guys and Dolls   Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:41 am

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Well, actually that's not the point... I agree with what you just said. I just believe this is very degrading for women... like if they could easily be replaced only by dolls. Are we nothing more than objects??? This is the message given by such practice.

I guess it goes more in the way Tyrong says. It's not like they (at least most of them) think women can be replaced by dolls, it's more probably that they have just acknowledged they can't have a real relationship so they go for literally a toy that emulates such a relationship.

Pretty much in a similar fashion as someone that would hug a pillow all night pretending to be hugging a woman.

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PostSubject: Re: Guys and Dolls   Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:31 pm

What about the case of a guys that does already have a girlfriend? There is one in the video who actually has a girlfriend...and still has those kind of dolls for his pleasure What about that? What to think of that? Doesn't it looks like if the guy couldn't get enough pleasure from a real relationship and needed dolls to complete it?

There is a part of real in what you just say, but there's a huge difference between a guy holding a pillow and a guy acting with his doll just like if it was a woman. The point here is not necesserily that girls are treaten as dolls or that kind of stuff, it's just that those guys really have a serious problem in their perception of sexuality. They see it in a physical way, while sex is more than that, it's an exchange, an experience between two individuals. I do understand their physical needs, but to the point of buying a doll to suffice it denotes of a, it sounds to me like they are blind of what a real relation would look like. It's not so surprising they can't find a girlfriend if their vision of sexuality is so much influenced by pornography and a total lack of emotions and feelings.

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PostSubject: Re: Guys and Dolls   Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:46 pm

Maybe he collects them?

Or he could just, you know, be weird. That one in a million that doesn't get it. Since the vid won't work for me, how does his GF actually feel about them? Did it show? Maybe if she doesn't mind, then he takes advantage about it.

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PostSubject: Re: Guys and Dolls   Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:49 am

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Maybe he collects them?

Or he could just, you know, be weird. That one in a million that doesn't get it. Since the vid won't work for me, how does his GF actually feel about them? Did it show? Maybe if she doesn't mind, then he takes advantage about it.

Maybe, but is it a good and healthy way to see and experience sexuality? Is it representative of what sexuality really means?

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PostSubject: Re: Guys and Dolls   Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:18 am

Not especially, but he could just be a collector. There's worse he could collect.

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PostSubject: Re: Guys and Dolls   Sun May 02, 2010 7:07 pm

Of course that's possible, but that's still an "unhealthy" kind of collection...

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PostSubject: Re: Guys and Dolls   Sun May 02, 2010 7:32 pm

He could be collecting his own feces. You'd be surprised how many people collect sex toys. They'd LOVE to have a Real Doll.

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