Dissidence is the highest form of patriotism

thats what i think

So if your country's status quo is actually the most beneficial status possible for the vast majority of its population (thusly for your nation), would dissidence still be patriotic?

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

So if your country's status quo is actually the most beneficial status possible for the vast majority of its population (thusly for your nation), would dissidence still be patriotic?

Celebrate the positives, but acknowledge the negatives to try to make the country better. If such a country existed, it probably couldn't;t be patriotic. But in this era, I think this statement makes sense. maybe not in the future, but right now.

I'm just saying this statement is not universally or always true.

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

I'm just saying this statement is not universally or always true.

Until there is a country like that, this statement is true, yes?

alexCCCP-RUS-54321 wrote:

Until there is a country like that, this statement is true, yes?

Acknowledging defects doesn't mean you're a dissident.

Does acknowledging and then trying to fix them make you one?

alexCCCP-RUS-54321 wrote:

Does acknowledging and then trying to fix them make you one?

Nope.

Dissidence: Disagreement, as of opinion or belief; dissent.

Dissent(to better understand Dissidence): to differ in sentiment or opinion, especially from the majority; withhold assent; disagree.

Acknowledgement: Recognition of the existence or truth of something.

Two very different things.

Ackowledge teh fucking probelsm in your country and try to fix them rather then going 'my country is so badass'

Huh?

patriots should "insert what i just said here"

Well isn't patriotism about being proud of your country and rant about how great it is.
So how is it the highest form of patriotism when you need to acknowledge a problem in your country.

If you asked what the problem is in America to patriots they'll probably say "liberals" lol.

But anyways, if you want the best for your country then yeah you need to acknowledge that there are problems and you should do the best to give an answer to those problems.

Hwat i got was : Definitions of patriot on the Web:

one who loves and defends his or her country
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

If you love you country like a true patriot, you would don't always love it because its so good, but rather because its your country. Because you love it you probably want to fix its problems.

And that doesn't make you a dissident, country-wise for you're not disagreeing with your country or with its existance, you're merely disagreeing with either its status quo, its government or a certain situation affecting it, not with a characteristic intrinsic to it.

And, CKX, what you describe resembles more nationalism than patriotism.

alright so dissidence was maybe the wrong word to use, but do you get what im saying?

alexCCCP-RUS-54321 wrote:

alright so dissidence was maybe the wrong word to use, but do you get what im saying?

Yes, just it's not dissidence.

alright.