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Is communism against human nature ?
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PostSubject: Re: Incentive in a Communist society ?   Tue May 12, 2009 2:27 am

Maybe it's both, Tyrong.

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PostSubject: Re: Incentive in a Communist society ?   Tue May 12, 2009 5:30 am

Or maybe it was the most annoyig name they could think of for the most annoying creature.

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PostSubject: Re: Incentive in a Communist society ?   Mon May 18, 2009 4:12 pm

The incentive in a communist society is that the more you do, the more people will like you and respect you. And if you are a lazy bum parasiting on the society, you will be as popular as cancer.

People are social beings who dont want to be excluded from the society, therefore, if it is possible for everyone to see how much and how good a person contributes to a society, they can decide better if they will be friendly to a person or not.

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PostSubject: Re: Incentive in a Communist society ?   Mon May 18, 2009 6:35 pm

Kenzu wrote:
And if you are a lazy bum parasiting on the society, you will be as popular as cancer.

Lol!
That made me laugh rendeer .

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PostSubject: Re: Incentive in a Communist society ?   Mon May 18, 2009 10:36 pm

Kenzu wrote:
The incentive in a communist society is that the more you do, the more people will like you and respect you.

Not necesarily, you can also enjoy of great wealth if so is determined by the community in accordance to the labor you perform.

For example, and as I put it to my brother:

He asked me "Ok, but what would happen with Cristiano Ronaldo (a famous footballer from Portugal) in communism? Would he lose his mansions? his Ferraris?"

I replied "As a professional sportsman he doesn't give any economic contribution, yet, that shouldn't mean his activities are not appreciated to the point of being rewarded with such luxuries. Suppose he has 500,000 hardcore fans, and they believe he should only play football and appreciate his football practice to teh point that they believe he deserves to be rewardsd with mansions and ferraris and what not - these fans would do whatever just to please Cristiano. That is, Cristiano would depend entirely on his fans not only to have his luxuries (which he could have) but also to simply suffice the most basic of his needs. Cristiano, the wealthy footballer, would have his life as he always had it since he got fame entirely in the hands of his fanbase. It's up to the fans to decide if Cristiano is worth breaking their backs off for. Pretty much like the guy that does tricks at the street.

Also, within a communist framework, material conditions would be far less limited than in capitalism, and they would be plenty more free time allowing for better professional sportsmen to develop eventually fro all around the world. When magnificen becomes so common... what will happen with Cristiano Ronaldo and other celebrities which before had all the fame, political and economical priviledges allowed by capitalism?"

In other words, in communism you can actually have more wealth in accordance to how society determines the value of your contributions to society. Yet, this won't give yo power over people - who you are and what you do makes people decide directly that you deserve more as per the policies determined by them.

Kenzu wrote:

And if you are a lazy bum parasiting on the society, you will be as popular as cancer.

This is most probably true since in communism there is no laboural market, nor jobs so the only way not to work is literally being physically disabled or not wanting to.

However there's always some merciful and charitable people taht believe in teh good faith of people and may sustain these parasitic slackers.

Aside from all this, there is another thing I consider a good enough incentive:

The organizational schemes allowe by communism make the entire workforce focused towards the satisfaction of societal needs as determined by all. Therefore, the workforce just works what is needed and is managed in the most efficient way to that end - no profit involved, no exploitation so no overwork.

Therefore, another great reward of communism is free time - a basis for freedom.

There are many things that, had the workforce been set merely towards the satisfaction of societal needs instead of working for the profit of a few that compete against each other, work would be just performed in necessary ammounts as determined by the needs determined by people and this would mean much less time working.

There are many essential products that would require just 3 hour shifts from the workers to suffice all global needs.

Kenzu wrote:

People are social beings who dont want to be excluded from the society, therefore, if it is possible for everyone to see how much and how good a person contributes to a society, they can decide better if they will be friendly to a person or not.

More than friendly, as adressed above.

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