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PostSubject: Re: green   Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:33 am

And you have mine. p.s. I am catchingup to you in posts
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:46 am

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They don't know the end result unless they know Marxism (Unlikely) and anyway if they knew it they would try to prevent it as long as possible.

I fail to see what we disagree on exactly.

The only way socialist revolution can be slowed down is to allow more socialist reforms. either way socialism occurs

I think we disagree in that you think socialist revolution can occur in the developed world at this point in time.

I disagree on the grounds that the proper class antagonisms and economic conditions do not yet exist.
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:52 am

realyy. i didnt notice no do i care. once you beat matt. you will be in the serius respect section
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:57 am

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realyy. i didnt notice no do i care. once you beat matt. you will be in the serius respect section

Whats all this respect talk ?
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:59 am

go to the section respect. and you will figure it out. i think youare on my list
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:26 am

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once you beat matt. you will be in the serius respect section

Ya, that'll happen. It's hard to outpost someone who just trolls and spams.

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PostSubject: Re: green   Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:28 am

for once. i agree wit you. how come he hasnt gotten suspened or banned yet
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:28 am

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It's hard to outpost someone who just trolls and spams.
I do, I have 45 posts a day. He only has like 15.
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:12 pm

i only get like 20. panekok. do you have friends?
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:16 pm

I have some but not alot and I only see them at school.
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:36 pm

me to. but i got 3 best buddies who hang out wit me.
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:26 pm

Me too. 3.
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:49 pm

im in the 40s and I have friends and go out for protests and political works for days at a time.

he is just opinionated
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:44 pm

you are 40 and getting outtalked by teenagers?
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:47 pm

He means in the 40's of posts per day.
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:53 pm

yeah i know

but i didn't realize i only have 39 now...XP
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:02 pm

Thats cause you stopped posting for a while.
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:26 pm

i almost regret protesting lol
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PostSubject: Re: green   Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:58 pm

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i almost regret protesting lol

You went to the yesterdays protest in Oakland for Mumia, no? How was it?

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PostSubject: Re: green   Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:15 am

It was the epitome of what a United front Protest SHOULD be

it was hundreds of people uniting for the same cause and DISCUSSING POLITICS.

I actually stopped for a bit and realized that everyone there was engaged in discussion. It was nice. We had a decent amount of speakers. I won some obama supporters over and talked to a lot of the youth and go them interested in checking out our marxist class series.

We had several Union speakers and we had between 400-500 organization endorsements worldwide. Then afterwards the people that were still interested walked over and had dinner and talked for an hour or so.

The day went perfectly...

Now we can only hope the Union members and reps that came will take Mumia's case in and encourage them to take it to the next level.

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AND my comrades invited me to go to the LA protest next week...ROADTRIP

did you hear about what our group did at the Philadelphia Obama rally?
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PostSubject: Re: green   Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:17 am

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did you hear about what our group did at the Philadelphia Obama rally?
No, tell us. By the way, did you really gain supporters just from a protest? I didn't know that was possible, especially Obama supporters cause they're so obsessed with him like a deity or something.
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PostSubject: Re: green   Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:32 am

yeah actually. Our rally came directly after an obama rally. It was an odd coincidence.

I got like 4 phone numbers and one of my class mates (who was a Hillary fan) agreed to start studying with us and doing work for mumia.

Pretty much everyone who came bout some of our marxist journals, books, or Workers vanguard, and a lot of people got subscriptions.

Now at the same time, the worshipers of Obama prolly don't even know about Mumia...So it was a combo of the Mumia fighters and the people that were vague supporters.

SO In Philadelphia Obama was campaigning and the SL/SYC there raised up a FREE MUMIA banner. The organizers of the rally tried to get us to take it down because Obama didn't support Mumia's case (in actuality, obama AND hillary SUPPORT the death penalty) and we said we will leave it up unless it's the police asking us to. They didn't call the police but they tried to Cover up the banner with an Obama banner and it cause like a mini protest to leave our banner alone. Mostly the youthful people at the rally got upset and started shouting to leave it alone.

NJNP-You KNOW that we are the ONLY ones still doing stuff about his case right?
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PostSubject: Re: green   Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:35 am

Really? When I look at websites for other Trotskyist groups they all say "free mumia abolish the racist death penalty"
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PostSubject: Re: green   Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:42 am

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Really? When I look at websites for other Trotskyist groups they all say "free mumia abolish the racist death penalty"

the fake socialist groups have signed onto OUR program

thats OUR slogan and considering that we are the ONLY people still doing stuff on his case, they have endorsed our protest because they have to now.

Before that everyone else was rallying behind the NEW TRIAL slogan.

These same groups that have decided to join our united front program refused to actually show up because we criticized their new trial slogan.

Now i am not trying to make it seem like we own it, but we have been the only group that has drawn that distinct line of protest...
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PostSubject: Re: green   Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:44 am

Why don't they just jon your group? Question
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