Private Property

"The theory of Communism may be summed up in one sentence: Abolish all private property!" -Karl Marx

There is always misunderstanding of what private property means. It is not a right of someone to own something; rather, it is the right of someone to deny others access to it. And private property does not refer to your personal possessions. That is called personal property. Private property is the right to deny other people access to the means of production. This "right" lets capitalists claim ownership to things the workers made just because the workers worked using tools owned by the capitalist and in a factory owned by the capitalist. Private property is not freedom; it is an instrument of exploitation.

So capitalists: why do you support the so-called "private property rights."

Because they need it for capital.

oligarch wrote:

Because they need it for capital.

Ebay song. lol

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Because they need it for capital.

Lol, I was actually referring to capitalists as in "people who support capitalism," not capitalists as in Bourgeoisie.

Pannekoek wrote:

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Because they need it for capital.

Lol, I was actually referring to capitalists as in "people who support capitalism," not capitalists as in Bourgeoisie.

Well, technically in order to be a capitalist you must an owner of capital.

Pannekoek wrote:

"The theory of Communism may be summed up in one sentence: Abolish all private property!" -Karl Marx

There is always misunderstanding of what private property means. It is not a right of someone to own something; rather, it is the right of someone to deny others access to it. And private property does not refer to your personal possessions. That is called personal property. Private property is the right to deny other people access to the means of production. This "right" lets capitalists claim ownership to things the workers made just because the workers worked using tools owned by the capitalist and in a factory owned by the capitalist. Private property is not freedom; it is an instrument of exploitation.

So capitalists: why do you support the so-called "private property rights."

partly true but my family ownes 20km land in the sunny shout of iceland wich is very popular for turists and by law we can't charge the turissts for watching some of the things in our land. But they can't camp in our forest or anything like that. anyway "to deny accses"? all the things anyone would want to see are allowed becuse thae goverment can force pepole to make it free.

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all the things anyone would want to see

It's not about seeing stuff, moron. It's about owning things other people made.

Pannekoek wrote:

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all the things anyone would want to see

It's not about seeing stuff, moron. It's about owning things other people made.

othere pepole made my house 130years ago, someone payed them for it then again someone paid for it and the pay is the reward.

This is my computer. I will not let you use it.

nillerz wrote:

This is my computer. I will not let you use it.

in communism I would

In communism my computer would, through violent and bloody revolution, be freed from communist grips, and whatever area I decide is my lawn is no longer communist, therefore won't be shared. However, don't confuse that for "I'm not going to seed after leech" because I totally will seed. I'm cool like that.

nillerz wrote:

In communism my computer would, through violent and bloody revolution, be freed from communist grips, and whatever area I decide is my lawn is no longer communist, therefore won't be shared. However, don't confuse that for "I'm not going to seed after leech" because I totally will seed. I'm cool like that.

Sooo..what political affiliation are you then?

I would. And I do...I use Open Source networks frequently for filesharing etc... If you use Lime Wire or similar programs, you technicaly share your computer. If Limewire/KAZZA would be legalised in the US (the free versions) then, it would be much safer and efficiant.

Libertarian. Economic minarchist.

Liche wrote:

nillerz wrote:

In communism my computer would, through violent and bloody revolution, be freed from communist grips, and whatever area I decide is my lawn is no longer communist, therefore won't be shared. However, don't confuse that for "I'm not going to seed after leech" because I totally will seed. I'm cool like that.

Sooo..what political affiliation are you then?

I would. And I do...I use Open Source networks frequently for filesharing etc... If you use Lime Wire or similar programs, you technicaly share your computer. If Limewire/KAZZA would be legalised in the US (the free versions) then, it would be much safer and efficiant.

me uses expensive interwbs

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This is my computer. I will not let you use it.

Again, a misunderstanding of private property. Read the original post and you will realize your computer and your house are personal property, not private property.

EXPROPRIATE THE RULING CLASS

SEIZE AND SOCIALIZE ALL PRIVATE PROPERTY

WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE

MarxistFreeman wrote:

EXPROPRIATE THE RULING CLASS

SEIZE AND SOCIALIZE ALL PRIVATE PROPERTY

WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE

Hail O Master of Slogans!

lol just some basic programmatic demands

I thought it was:

Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.

Working Men of All Countries, Unite!

i typed those to specify about the abolition of private property

i don't want noobs thinking we are going to run around bombing property fight club style

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don't want noobs thinking we are going to run around bombing property fight club style

We're not doing that? That's the only reason I became a Marxist in the first place!

well i am in suburbia and when my classmates watch fight club they were all like

"ZOMG THAT'S JUST LIKE WUT MARCUS BELIEVES IN!!!!"


my name is Marcus btw

Can I call you mark? How old are you mark?

sure

i'll be 17 this may

i'm actually a junior in high school that takes classes on college campus

what should I call you?

I really don't care what you call me. I'm 13. I take classes at middle school but I go to high school to take math.