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PostSubject: Greens hate people   Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:31 am

i've come to the conclusion

by observing greens and reading the story of B

that Greens hate people and put the environment before humans

not human luxury

humans in general

if you have the choice between ending world hunger and converting to eco friendly fuel


they'd pic the latter

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PostSubject: Re: Greens hate people   Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:39 am

Communist have been speaking out for the environment long before "GREEN" became popular. Our views are much more realistic. Change needs to happen and i think it will. But it should never be at the cost of human life

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PostSubject: Re: Greens hate people   Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:45 am

some PHILOSOPHY majors were saying

that "the thing about starving people in africa are already starving, so producing less for the overall population won't really affect them"

and then they went on about how to best kill off the population to save the earth
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PostSubject: Re: Greens hate people   Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:46 pm

[url=vhemt.org]Voluntary Human Extinction Movement[/url]
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PostSubject: Re: Greens hate people   Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:31 pm

MarxistFreeman wrote:
i've come to the conclusion

by observing greens and reading the story of B

that Greens hate people and put the environment before humans

not human luxury

humans in general

if you have the choice between ending world hunger and converting to eco friendly fuel


they'd pic the latter

DISCUSS




Taking a green approach will benefit all of mankind, If we continue our dependance on fossil fuels esp petroleum we risk war ect. The transition to renewable/FREE energy is both practical and in everyones best interest.

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that Greens hate people and put the environment before humans

????????

No, greens understand the co-dependent relationship humans have with the earth.

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if you have the choice between ending world hunger and converting to eco friendly fuel

Well greens would be in favor of people growing their own food ect, If people had 1-free energy + 2-free food, dependance on the free market would eventually end.
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PostSubject: Re: Greens hate people   Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:49 pm

mononokifool wrote:
Communist have been speaking out for the environment long before "GREEN" became popular. Our views are much more realistic. Change needs to happen and i think it will. But it should never be at the cost of human life

umm tell me how is communism better prepared to "fix" the enviorment than capitalism??
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PostSubject: Re: Greens hate people   Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:49 pm

mattabesta wrote:
mononokifool wrote:
Communist have been speaking out for the environment long before "GREEN" became popular. Our views are much more realistic. Change needs to happen and i think it will. But it should never be at the cost of human life

umm tell me how is communism better prepared to "fix" the enviorment than capitalism??
What are the CPUSA views on the environment?

One of our main slogans is "People and Nature Before Profits." We are for developing policy that provides for a sustainable economy and a sustainable ecology. Where possible, we participate in environmental movements, and recognize and work on the environmental aspects of struggles on the shop floor and in unions.

We oppose drilling in the Alaskan National Wildlife Refuge and we oppose the use of nuclear power until there is a safe way to dispose of waste (and if there is no safe way, don't use nuclear power at all). We fight against subjecting workers to untested new chemical compounds with unknown health consequences, currently being introduced at the rate of 3,000 or 4,000 new compounds each year. We support the use of sustainable forest practices, which also are more labor intensive, creating new jobs and job retraining for laid-off lumber workers.

We seek to build unity between the environmental movement and other important movements: the labor, civil rights, women's, youth, peace, and immigrant rights movements, to name a few.

To build a better world, we must have a world to build on. The greatest environmental threat is that of nuclear war. We are for complete disarmament and for the destruction of all nuclear weapons.

There was environmental damage in the former socialist countries. Some of that was due to their efforts at forced industrialization, which put the environmental dangers of such development low on their list of priorities. A related problem was that in adopting machinery and industrial processes from advanced capitalist countries, they unintentionally adopted the capitalist economic realities embedded in the machinery and processes. In other words, capitalist industrial development is based on not having to pay the costs for most of the waste products it generates. When socialist countries used that as a model to develop their own industry, they ended up with the same skewed industrial waste model.

They did this for several good reasons—to short cut the process of technological change, to quickly provide more goods for their citizens, to be able to compete with capitalist countries. However, unintentionally, adopting technological processes designed to function in capitalist reality, they brought in environmental problems that relied on the ability of industries to dump waste without paying the social and environmental costs. To adapt, rather than just adopt, major industrial processes will take more time.



taken from the CPUSA's website

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PostSubject: Re: Greens hate people   Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:52 pm

mononokifool wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
mononokifool wrote:
Communist have been speaking out for the environment long before "GREEN" became popular. Our views are much more realistic. Change needs to happen and i think it will. But it should never be at the cost of human life

umm tell me how is communism better prepared to "fix" the enviorment than capitalism??
What are the CPUSA views on the environment?

One of our main slogans is "People and Nature Before Profits." We are for developing policy that provides for a sustainable economy and a sustainable ecology. Where possible, we participate in environmental movements, and recognize and work on the environmental aspects of struggles on the shop floor and in unions.

We oppose drilling in the Alaskan National Wildlife Refuge and we oppose the use of nuclear power until there is a safe way to dispose of waste (and if there is no safe way, don't use nuclear power at all). We fight against subjecting workers to untested new chemical compounds with unknown health consequences, currently being introduced at the rate of 3,000 or 4,000 new compounds each year. We support the use of sustainable forest practices, which also are more labor intensive, creating new jobs and job retraining for laid-off lumber workers.

We seek to build unity between the environmental movement and other important movements: the labor, civil rights, women's, youth, peace, and immigrant rights movements, to name a few.

To build a better world, we must have a world to build on. The greatest environmental threat is that of nuclear war. We are for complete disarmament and for the destruction of all nuclear weapons.

There was environmental damage in the former socialist countries. Some of that was due to their efforts at forced industrialization, which put the environmental dangers of such development low on their list of priorities. A related problem was that in adopting machinery and industrial processes from advanced capitalist countries, they unintentionally adopted the capitalist economic realities embedded in the machinery and processes. In other words, capitalist industrial development is based on not having to pay the costs for most of the waste products it generates. When socialist countries used that as a model to develop their own industry, they ended up with the same skewed industrial waste model.

They did this for several good reasons—to short cut the process of technological change, to quickly provide more goods for their citizens, to be able to compete with capitalist countries. However, unintentionally, adopting technological processes designed to function in capitalist reality, they brought in environmental problems that relied on the ability of industries to dump waste without paying the social and environmental costs. To adapt, rather than just adopt, major industrial processes will take more time.



taken from the CPUSA's website


we are completly against the enviorment and belive in killing pepole in chenical plant's and want to make pepole lose theyere job's.

do you think any party wun't say that????
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PostSubject: Re: Greens hate people   Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:49 am

what the hell are you talking about

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PostSubject: Re: Greens hate people   Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:13 am

I'm gonna let this one down itself
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PostSubject: Re: Greens hate people   Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:30 pm

I think the green movement actually helps us, except that they make nuclear power sound like it was a power plant with a nuclear bomb inside.
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PostSubject: Re: Greens hate people   Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:57 pm

Kenzu wrote:
I think the green movement actually helps us, except that they make nuclear power sound like it was a power plant with a nuclear bomb inside.

not really nuclear stations ar very safe now, there has never been a real accsident at a safe station, only in the ussr were btw the employes had insufficent trasining and the station was in need of mainytenenc.
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PostSubject: Re: Greens hate people   Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:11 pm

I, on the other hand, hate most plants and animals. Exception:

Doggies. ;_;
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PostSubject: Re: Greens hate people   Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:50 pm

nillerz wrote:
I, on the other hand, hate most plants and animals. Exception:

Doggies. ;_;
And cats named Ugly

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