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nillerz Arrested
Posts : 288 Join date : 2008-04-02 Age : 34 Location : Western NY
| Subject: Why the double standard? Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:07 pm | |
| I just got XXXXX at for saying "Kill a couple commies". Communism, by definition, requires a:
Violent
Uprising.
So apparently, violence is only for communists. I'm not allowed to even jokingly condone violence against them. | |
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Watermelon ZEK in siberian gulag
Posts : 2650 Join date : 2008-04-05 Age : 30 Location : springfield, il
| Subject: Re: Why the double standard? Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:26 pm | |
| I'm gonna kill a couple of libertarians tonight. Anyone wanna come? | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Why the double standard? Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:55 pm | |
| No the state requires violence
The Capitalist state is utilized by the bourgeoisie for the repression of the workers.
We need a violent revolution to smash the capitalist state and reforge a new worker's state in it's place for the repression of the bourgeoisie by the proletariat.
We understand that the capitalist CAN and DO use violence to enforce their rule daily |
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Black_Cross Chairman of the WR Committee
Posts : 1702 Join date : 2008-04-04 Age : 35 Location : Sisyphean Hell
| Subject: Re: Why the double standard? Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:56 pm | |
| - nillerz wrote:
- I just got bitched at for saying "Kill a couple commies". Communism, by definition, requires a:
Violent
Uprising. That's not true. You're just dumb. - Quote :
- So apparently, violence is only for communists. I'm not allowed to even jokingly condone violence against them.
... you just said kill a couple commies. Just based on that, you could make an argument that you're more violent than anyone here. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Why the double standard? Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:59 pm | |
| I say "kill the commies" to throw people off...
they laugh and then look at me with a confused look |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: Why the double standard? Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:39 am | |
| - MarxistFreeman wrote:
- No the state requires violence
The Capitalist state is utilized by the bourgeoisie for the repression of the workers.
We need a violent revolution to smash the capitalist state and reforge a new worker's state in it's place for the repression of the bourgeoisie by the proletariat.
We understand that the capitalist CAN and DO use violence to enforce their rule daily yes like when it's called the fucking law dumass. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Why the double standard? Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:56 am | |
| cause you know...
jailing people for political beliefs...yeah uhuh
for crimes without victims like prostitution and drugs
yes yes?
police brutality of blacks and latinos yeah?
liking that?
for gaining profits in a way the capitalists don't find fair torrents, inside trading yes?
not allowing gay marriage?
yes?
totally fair laws |
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nillerz Arrested
Posts : 288 Join date : 2008-04-02 Age : 34 Location : Western NY
| Subject: Re: Why the double standard? Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:26 am | |
| Either you accept all violent talk or you accept none, there is no grey. I don't care if it's your "political belief" that you need to violently overthrow the industrial leaders, it's my political belief that if communists pose a threat against my way of life I'm going to protect my way of life. Also, freedom of speech. I support killing communists because gosh darnit it's my right to support it. | |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4613 Join date : 2008-01-30 Age : 30 Location : USA-Virginia
| Subject: Re: Why the double standard? Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:30 am | |
| ADMIN'S NOTE: For this post you have earned yourself the 1st WARNING!
..........all right I'll remove it see I did.
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nillerz Arrested
Posts : 288 Join date : 2008-04-02 Age : 34 Location : Western NY
| Subject: Re: Why the double standard? Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:35 am | |
| My mom died when I was 4, jackass.
ADMIN'S NOTE: For this post you have earned yourself another WARNING! | |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4613 Join date : 2008-01-30 Age : 30 Location : USA-Virginia
| Subject: Re: Why the double standard? Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:42 am | |
| - nillerz wrote:
- My mom died when I was 4, jackass.
Ok maybe I am an ass (if that statement true), but do u know howmany times but do you know how many times I have been told that? Usually, if some one says that to my face I look in their cell fun. I usually see a cantact called parents. Guess who answers the phone? THE MOM! So, I can not truly believe you untill I know for sure you are not just making me look like an ass, so every one forgets about your ignorant excuses, to your ignorant comments. And by the way, give your mother my condolinces . PS: If your mom isn't dead, and if hell is real...You'll definintly not be getting in to heaven...I'm not saying I will...and I'm not saying I wont.
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Why the double standard? Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:43 am | |
| - nillerz wrote:
- My mom died when I was 4, jackass.
lulz? But honestly nillerz has a point. just becuase you feel you are right doesnt mean he feels you are. Its commen sense and what you are doing is a form of censorship |
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nillerz Arrested
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| Subject: Re: Why the double standard? Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:45 am | |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4613 Join date : 2008-01-30 Age : 30 Location : USA-Virginia
| Subject: Re: Why the double standard? Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:46 am | |
| - mononokifool wrote:
- nillerz wrote:
- My mom died when I was 4, jackass.
lulz?
But honestly nillerz has a point. just becuase you feel you are right doesnt mean he feels you are. Its commen sense and what you are doing is a form of censorship Yes, but what Nillerz is saying is obviosly a cover up (I'm not saying its not true). Just like saying "Officer I saw a 6 foot black man kill my wife with my gun" what did he look like "black" And if it is requested by an admin, I will take down the posting. It is from southpark which is meant to be offensive... | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Why the double standard? Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:54 am | |
| - Liche wrote:
- mononokifool wrote:
- nillerz wrote:
- My mom died when I was 4, jackass.
lulz?
But honestly nillerz has a point. just becuase you feel you are right doesnt mean he feels you are. Its commen sense and what you are doing is a form of censorship Yes, but what Nillerz is saying is obviosly a cover up (I'm not saying its not true). Just like saying "Officer I saw a 6 foot black man kill my wife with my gun" what did he look like "black"
And if it is requested by an admin, I will take down the posting. It is from southpark which is meant to be offensive... Oh i wasnt saying anything agaisnt you i was just saying we cant censor him unless everyone stops |
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nillerz Arrested
Posts : 288 Join date : 2008-04-02 Age : 34 Location : Western NY
| Subject: Re: Why the double standard? Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:54 am | |
| obviously a cover up? That doesn't even make sense. Freedom of speech should never, and I mean NEVER, be restricted.I don't care if you threaten to kill off all the libertarians, I don't think you will anyway, but I'll be damned if you inhibit their freedom of speech. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Why the double standard? Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:40 am | |
| i said that in response to matts dumbass comment about laws which i felt implied that all of it was necessary and always was good for society
but yeah the ruling class HAS to use violence
is nillerz a fashy? |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Why the double standard? Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:45 am | |
| - MarxistFreeman wrote:
- i said that in response to matts dumbass comment about laws which i felt implied that all of it was necessary and always was good for society
but yeah the ruling class HAS to use violence
is nillerz a fashy? lol no he is a libertarian. |
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Kenzu Chairman of the WR Committee
Posts : 1842 Join date : 2007-08-17 Age : 37 Location : Austria - Vienna
| Subject: Re: Why the double standard? Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:10 am | |
| Both nillerz and Liche have earned yourself a WARNING!
Continue like that and you will get yourself banned.
Freedom of Speech doesn't mean that you can say whatever you want, even if it harms others. Freedom of Speech means you can say whatever you want without insulting others.
Freedom also doesn't mean that you can do whatever you like, but it means you can do whatever you like that doesnt take away other people's freedoms.
Just because someone wants to kill someone, even in the most freest society he can't do that, because he would take away the other person's right to live. | |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4613 Join date : 2008-01-30 Age : 30 Location : USA-Virginia
| Subject: Re: Why the double standard? Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:32 pm | |
| - Kenzu wrote:
- Both nillerz and Liche have earned yourself a WARNING!
Continue like that and you will get yourself banned.
Freedom of Speech doesn't mean that you can say whatever you want, even if it harms others. Freedom of Speech means you can say whatever you want without insulting others.
Freedom also doesn't mean that you can do whatever you like, but it means you can do whatever you like that doesnt take away other people's freedoms.
Just because someone wants to kill someone, even in the most freest society he can't do that, because he would take away the other person's right to live. YAAY I earned something! I'll take down the posts (that are offensive). | |
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nillerz Arrested
Posts : 288 Join date : 2008-04-02 Age : 34 Location : Western NY
| Subject: Re: Why the double standard? Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:12 am | |
| Fucking wrong, dumbass. Freedom of speech means you can say whatever the fuck you want without facsist pricks going "omg butthurt" and censoring you. My speech doesn't take away from anyone else. I'm not yelling fire in a crowded theatre. I said "Hope he kills a couple commies". You getting outraged over that is understandable, you censoring the comment isn't. If you want to voice your disgust with my statement, you can state it without denying the rights I consider to be unalienable.
People can say whatever, whenever, for whatever reason. If their words directly cause physical damage, that's another matter. I didn't kill anyone by saying "Kill a couple commies". In short, you're an idiot. | |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4613 Join date : 2008-01-30 Age : 30 Location : USA-Virginia
| Subject: Re: Why the double standard? Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:37 am | |
| Did you not listen to anything kenzu said? | |
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oligarch Chairman of the WR Committee
Posts : 1643 Join date : 2008-01-31
| Subject: Re: Why the double standard? Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:39 am | |
| - nillerz wrote:
Violent
no u | |
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Jeiro Sijakeuigwan Experienced Party Member
Posts : 974 Join date : 2008-02-03 Age : 33 Location : The Circle of Flow
| Subject: Re: Why the double standard? Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:42 am | |
| Nillerz. You're gonna get yourself banned FAST. Calling the admin a "dummy" isn't exactly the wisest thing to do. It's like this. If you love your freedom of speech, using to justify nearly EVERYTHING, and then you just got insulted by some other guy who uses the SAME justicifiation, how would you feel? Insulted? Take it a step further and you'll get it. Trust me, I had the mistake of using the "free speech" BS on my arguements and it didn't end pretty. Besides, this is a forum, NOT America. | |
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Watermelon ZEK in siberian gulag
Posts : 2650 Join date : 2008-04-05 Age : 30 Location : springfield, il
| Subject: Re: Why the double standard? Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:29 am | |
| If you don't like it, leave. You'll find other forums also have rules. | |
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