mattabesta

For constant Spaming, immunity to explanation/logic/reason and blind ranting

I voted one week ban, maybe give him some time to actually come up with intelligent arguments so he doesn't have to spam the hell outta every forum and utterly halt and ruin intelligent, interesting thread conversations.

You refraining from voting Cyprian?

I'll vote when it won't be blant obvious which option I voted

Who cares? What're you afraid he'll put you on trial? I'll back you up.

I would laugh really hard at a trial like that - for the most bit that he has absolutely nothing to throw against me - and just to avoid the sheer selfrigethousness - its like a fly that soars around you and won't go away.

NoJustice.NoPeace wrote:

I voted one week ban, maybe give him some time to actually come up with intelligent arguments so he doesn't have to spam the hell outta every forum and utterly halt and ruin intelligent, interesting thread conversations.

You refraining from voting Cyprian?

fuck man, intelligetn arguments???

get me 10 unintelligent arguments I have made

mattabesta wrote:

MarxistFreeman wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

mononokifool wrote:

I believe in reform while waiting for the revolution. We must help the workers as much as we can. once we have the majority then we can smash the capitalist state.

but if you have a majoraty it isn't a free market state, btw why do you say capitalist??

I lose respect for you the more you show your lack of knowledge about communism but continue to be passionate against it...

the state exists to enforce the bourgeoisie's rule

the state=armed forces of men that exist to deal with class antagonisms in society

Capitalist state exists for the repression of the working class by the capitalist class

Workers state exists for the repression of the capitalists(exploiters of labor) by the workers

oh sorry I just didn't notice becuse i was opressing a worker sorry what did you say?

mattabesta wrote:

Cyprian Uljanow wrote:

Gulag material

Nuff said

becuse he turned china into a communist paradise?

mattabesta wrote:

Pannekoek wrote:

Yes, please get the fuck out.

I be here longer you get out

That's two so far and it only took me exactly 2.45 minutes

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Cyprian Uljanow wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

MarxistFreeman wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

mononokifool wrote:

I believe in reform while waiting for the revolution. We must help the workers as much as we can. once we have the majority then we can smash the capitalist state.

but if you have a majoraty it isn't a free market state, btw why do you say capitalist??

I lose respect for you the more you show your lack of knowledge about communism but continue to be passionate against it...

the state exists to enforce the bourgeoisie's rule

the state=armed forces of men that exist to deal with class antagonisms in society

Capitalist state exists for the repression of the working class by the capitalist class

Workers state exists for the repression of the capitalists(exploiters of labor) by the workers

oh sorry I just didn't notice becuse i was opressing a worker sorry what did you say?

mattabesta wrote:

Cyprian Uljanow wrote:

Gulag material

Nuff said

becuse he turned china into a communist paradise?

That's two so far and it only took me exactly 2.45 minutes

wow do pepole not know kokes nor sarcasm around here???

mattabesta wrote:

HAHAHAHAHAHA

No

Cyprian Uljanow wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

HAHAHAHAHAHA

again that was sarcasm.

0 so far

So everything you ever post is Sarcasm?

mattabesta wrote:

NoJustice.NoPeace wrote:

I voted one week ban, maybe give him some time to actually come up with intelligent arguments so he doesn't have to spam the hell outta every forum and utterly halt and ruin intelligent, interesting thread conversations.

You refraining from voting Cyprian?

fuck man, intelligetn arguments???

get me 10 unintelligent arguments I have made

With great pleasure.

1)

mattabesta wrote:

lol he was valdimir???
that's my familyes most used name I have like 5 relitives named valdimir.

Then, in response to me, saying you mispelled it, you wrote...

Quote :

it was spelled correctly, read mi post.

2) Pannekoek wrote:
Did you use capitalist and rights in the same sentence? Bloodsuckers deserve no rights. Kidding. They shouldn't be treated bad in socialism but they should be forced to be workers by the economic system of to each according to his contribution.

You responded:

but we could try to vote you out of office and obolish the workeres state, right?

3) Pannekoek wrote:
But profit aka surplus value is derived from not paying the workers the full value of their labor. Thus exploitation is necessary. You seem to be thinking of it in terms of pie slices, which is irrelevant. Exploitation is caused by not paying the full value of the labor power.

You responded:

yup and then the owner gets more money than the workers wich is right becuse he built the factory and he has worked to pay for it.

this creaates a pyramid but, becuse the rich man is so rich he fules cunsumption creating revenue for othere workeres, so infact he is not just paying his own workers salary but othere rich pepoles too.

4)

mattabesta wrote:

becuse he turned china into a communist paradise?

^^What you said about Mao

5)

Quote :

ancrists don't belong to right nor left!

6) Pannekoek wrote:
Since when is zealot an expert on communism?

You responded:

since he was one.

I'm about to get the boot, so i'll finish later.

This is madness!

I voted innocent, matts been better lately.

NoJustice.NoPeace wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

NoJustice.NoPeace wrote:

I voted one week ban, maybe give him some time to actually come up with intelligent arguments so he doesn't have to spam the hell outta every forum and utterly halt and ruin intelligent, interesting thread conversations.

You refraining from voting Cyprian?

fuck man, intelligetn arguments???

get me 10 unintelligent arguments I have made

With great pleasure.

1)

mattabesta wrote:

lol he was valdimir???
that's my familyes most used name I have like 5 relitives named valdimir.

Then, in response to me, saying you mispelled it, you wrote...

Quote :

it was spelled correctly, read mi post.

2) Pannekoek wrote:
Did you use capitalist and rights in the same sentence? Bloodsuckers deserve no rights. Kidding. They shouldn't be treated bad in socialism but they should be forced to be workers by the economic system of to each according to his contribution.

You responded:

but we could try to vote you out of office and obolish the workeres state, right?

3) Pannekoek wrote:
But profit aka surplus value is derived from not paying the workers the full value of their labor. Thus exploitation is necessary. You seem to be thinking of it in terms of pie slices, which is irrelevant. Exploitation is caused by not paying the full value of the labor power.

You responded:

yup and then the owner gets more money than the workers wich is right becuse he built the factory and he has worked to pay for it.

this creaates a pyramid but, becuse the rich man is so rich he fules cunsumption creating revenue for othere workeres, so infact he is not just paying his own workers salary but othere rich pepoles too.

4)

mattabesta wrote:

becuse he turned china into a communist paradise?

^^What you said about Mao

5)

Quote :

ancrists don't belong to right nor left!

6) Pannekoek wrote:
Since when is zealot an expert on communism?

You responded:

since he was one.

I'm about to get the boot, so i'll finish later.

wtf??

it's just me disagreeing with communist ideolagy.

Maybe number three was (though not well) but what's your excuse for the rest?

Quote :

This is madness!

Ya, this is all gettin pretty out of hand. If a topic is to come into this forum section, it should have to be approved by an admin, penalties included (especially since mattabesta is now on trial in two threads at once, haha. Double Jeopordy!!)

NoJustice.NoPeace wrote:

Maybe number three was (though not well) but what's your excuse for the rest?

Quote :

This is madness!

Ya, this is all gettin pretty out of hand. If a topic is to come into this forum section, it should have to be approved by an admin, penalties included (especially since mattabesta is now on trial in two threads at once, haha. Double Jeopordy!!)

i was thinking that as well but goddammit i don't like this guy

Environmentalist did those 2 topics after me

and No Matt you disagree with the Communism you dreamed up for your sugarcoated-land to be the baies of the world, every link that abolished your view of communism, every argument and every word, was left to go on with silence from you - and you just go to another topic to yapper more and louder about it, pretending you never wore proved wrong - thats what this trial is for.

NoJustice.NoPeace wrote:

Maybe number three was (though not well) but what's your excuse for the rest?

Quote :

This is madness!

Ya, this is all gettin pretty out of hand. If a topic is to come into this forum section, it should have to be approved by an admin, penalties included (especially since mattabesta is now on trial in two threads at once, haha. Double Jeopordy!!)

the otheres would be sarcasm...

mattabesta wrote:

the otheres would be sarcasm...

Then stop spamming and start contributing to this site. This site isn't a joke, people actually come here to debate theory, politics, etc. And if you don't want to say something that will contribute to forwarding a debate intellectually, don't say anything at all. If we want sarcasm, we'll ask for it... Or put it in the spam forum.

NoJustice.NoPeace wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

the otheres would be sarcasm...

Then stop spamming and start contributing to this site. This site isn't a joke, people actually come here to debate theory, politics, etc. And if you don't want to say something that will contribute to forwarding a debate intellectually, don't say anything at all. If we want sarcasm, we'll ask for it... Or put it in the spam forum.

just fucking admit that anything I say will be dissmissed as invalid, false or lies.

Renegade_Kautsky wrote:

This is madness!

This is Sparta!

Spamming, spamming, spamming. 1-week ban.

mattabesta wrote:

just fucking admit that anything I say will be dissmissed as invalid, false or lies.

Maybe start doing something to make it valid and true? The road of improveing the world, begins with improvement of yourself.

His account has been suspended for 3 days