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PostSubject: Re: leving, slowly   Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:51 pm

Ya, i glanced over the sig quickly and noticed the swastika and jumped to conclusions. Doesn't mean i give a rat's ass about fascists though.

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PostSubject: Re: leving, slowly   Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:53 pm

What if they are a worker.
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PostSubject: Re: leving, slowly   Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:16 am

Then i'd be conflicted, but in the end, if they are going to be counter-revolutionary, then they're a fascist before they are a worker.

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PostSubject: Re: leving, slowly   Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:21 am

Idealism. Worker is a worker even if they are a fascist one. fascist worker> social democrat bourgeois.
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PostSubject: Re: leving, slowly   Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:22 am

well my sig is working then

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PostSubject: Re: leving, slowly   Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:29 am

Watermelon wrote:
Idealism. Worker is a worker even if they are a fascist one. fascist worker> social democrat bourgeois.

a fascist worker is no friend of the workers of the world.

it's idealist to believe they are anything else
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PostSubject: Re: leving, slowly   Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:13 am

I'm confused, what do fascist workers have to do with existence resulting from consciousness.
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PostSubject: Re: leving, slowly   Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:14 am

oligarch wrote:
I'm confused, what do fascist workers have to do with existence resulting from consciousness.

how dare you bring logical marxism into this to rule out pancake's idealist situations?

how DARE you, kind sir?
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PostSubject: Re: leving, slowly   Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:13 pm

fash worker is just a worker who needs to gain class consciousness, just like most other workers. You brand him an enemy for being brainwashes by bourgeoisie. That means you are evil.
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PostSubject: Re: leving, slowly   Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:05 pm

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fash worker is just a worker who needs to gain class consciousness, just like most other workers. You brand him an enemy for being brainwashes by bourgeoisie. That means you are evil.

if the revolution comes and he runs to the side of the bourgeoisie and he is shooting blacks and workers

I'm fucking taking him down

we don't seek to win the KKK over.

Just because that fits into your stupid new theory of class bullshit doesn't make it a good fucking idea.

Since when is rejecting a fascist evil?
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PostSubject: Re: leving, slowly   Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:02 pm

A true marxist would seek to win all the workers over, even if they are a kkk.
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PostSubject: Re: leving, slowly   Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:19 pm

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A true marxist would seek to win all the workers over, even if they are a kkk.

Ya, but what Shabazz and i are saying is that if he/she takes up arms against the revolution, we will act accordingly. It would be a shame that he would die, but it's a shame when anyone has to die. No one looks forward to violence, it's the worst part of being a revolutionary, but we do what we have to do. In that situation, it's either kill or be killed, and i'll be damned if i, or any of my comrades, am gonna die so some brainwashed fascist can live.

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PostSubject: Re: leving, slowly   Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:10 pm

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if he/she takes up arms against the revolution, we will act accordingly
Then I agree with you. I thought you were referring to level 2 classes, not level 3. (lol sorry mark but i cudnt resist)
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