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Should a Libertarian socialist party be set up
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PostSubject: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party   Thu May 01, 2008 4:15 am

I am in an awkward position

The Social Democrats are full of social liberals/capitalists.
All other Socialist party's are Marxist.

I am a Libertarian socialist - I believe in the elimination of the state, class and private property ect, however - Libertarian socialism is not Marxist.

I request that a Libertarian socialist party be set up.
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PostSubject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party   Thu May 01, 2008 4:23 am

What's its difference from socialist or social-democratic party?

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PostSubject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party   Thu May 01, 2008 4:24 am

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What's its difference from socialist or social-democratic party?

Social democrats are capitalists
Socialists are Marxists

Libertarian Socialists are neither.
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PostSubject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party   Thu May 01, 2008 4:49 am

hell no. libertarian socialists are basically anarchites. you are def not a libsoc.
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PostSubject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party   Thu May 01, 2008 4:57 am

Sounds like you should join the anarchists then.
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PostSubject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party   Thu May 01, 2008 5:07 am

oligarch wrote:
Sounds like you should join the anarchists then.

I may just do that.
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PostSubject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party   Thu May 01, 2008 8:44 am

inkus2000 wrote:
I am in an awkward position

The Social Democrats are full of social liberals/capitalists.

I am a Libertarian socialist - I believe in the elimination of the state, class and private property ect, however -.


lololololololololololol

by voting for obama
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PostSubject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party   Thu May 01, 2008 9:37 am

I say sure. Why not?

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PostSubject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party   Sun May 04, 2008 11:23 pm

I've never heard of an anarchist that votes for Obama.
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PostSubject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party   Sun May 04, 2008 11:59 pm

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I've never heard of an anarchist that votes for Obama.

well I dont live in the US for a start

and I dont support obama, I said it would be better to vote for him on the basis that it would help keep McCain 'who is worse' out. If you dont vote in favor of the lesser of the two evils McCain would go ahead one vote -
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PostSubject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party   Mon May 05, 2008 12:02 am

You may see it as lesser of two evils, but I see it as:

Candidate 1: Bourgeois Politician
Candidate 2: Bourgeois Politician
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PostSubject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party   Mon May 05, 2008 12:04 am

McCain might be a Vietnam War vet but he's one of the absolute crazy ones. He thinks he is all that simply because he suffered torture at the hands of the Viet Cong. He thinks he's gonna end the "War on Terror" and you know what? He just might.

By threatening the Middle East with that one red button...

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PostSubject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party   Mon May 05, 2008 12:13 am

Watermelon wrote:
You may see it as lesser of two evils, but I see it as:

Candidate 1: Bourgeois Politician
Candidate 2: Bourgeois Politician


I see it this way

Candidate 1: Bourgeois Politician - who wants to nationalize healthcare
Candidate 2: Bourgeois Politician - wants to murder another 40,000 muslim civilians.
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PostSubject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party   Mon May 05, 2008 12:16 am

Obama does not want to nationalize health care

Obama wants to send more troops to Afghanistan
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PostSubject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party   Mon May 05, 2008 12:27 am

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Obama does not want to nationalize health care

Obama wants to send more troops to Afghanistan

He wants to make healthcare affordable or something then, the point is less people die if Obama gets in.
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PostSubject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party   Mon May 05, 2008 12:30 am

I wouldn't be so sure. The repubs want to make it cheap also. Everyone wants cheap.
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PostSubject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party   Mon May 05, 2008 12:38 am

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I wouldn't be so sure. The repubs want to make it cheap also. Everyone wants cheap.

WTF?! The Repubs want to freaking ABOLISH national heathcare so that EVERYBODY, whether rich or poor, will be FORCED to pay sh!7loads of money! I had sugery on my freaking back and you know just how much that cost?!

About half a million dollars. That's right, $500,000. That's more than what the average American family makes in a freaking YEAR, not counting tax and other expense.

I hate Republicans soo much. Despite their name and what they claim to be, they are nothing but facist bastards!

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PostSubject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party   Mon May 05, 2008 12:39 am

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I wouldn't be so sure. The repubs want to make it cheap also. Everyone wants cheap.

The repb want poor children to die in the gutter while their parents are forced to work for 1$ an hour in sweatshops with no rights -

As for overseas policy they want to murder every man woman and child who thinks about a diff political system than neo liberalism.

They also think the only Americans who should be allowed to vote 'or have any rights' are white middle class protestants, and by middle class I don't mean middle income I mean people on bout 50,959k a year.


Of course they wont 'tell you' any of this but you can be pretty sure its all true.
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PostSubject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party   Mon May 05, 2008 12:40 am

REpublicans and dems are not much different in reality. both support the bourgeoisie, natinalism, imperialism, suppression of the workers
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PostSubject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party   Mon May 05, 2008 12:42 am

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I wouldn't be so sure. The repubs want to make it cheap also. Everyone wants cheap.

$500,000 ?!!!?!?!!!!????

Fuck !

Everything is free here.
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PostSubject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party   Mon May 05, 2008 12:44 am

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REpublicans and dems are not much different in reality. both support the bourgeoisie, natinalism, imperialism, suppression of the workers

I agree, although the dems arn't as extreem.
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PostSubject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party   Mon May 05, 2008 12:45 am

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$500,000 ?!!!?!?!!!!????

Fuck !

Everything is free here.
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PostSubject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party   Mon May 05, 2008 12:46 am

cat monkey I wouldn't know I don't judge how bourgeois bourgeois politicians are I just know they are bourgeois and that's enough for me to not support them.
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PostSubject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party   Mon May 05, 2008 12:48 am

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$500,000 ?!!!?!?!!!!????

Fuck !

Everything is free here.

lol, yeah. It suxs. Some people even pay 300 dollars for just one pill a day to keep themselves alive.

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PostSubject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party   Mon May 05, 2008 12:55 am

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
inkus2000 wrote:


$500,000 ?!!!?!?!!!!????

Fuck !

Everything is free here.

lol, yeah. It suxs. Some people even pay 300 dollars for just one pill a day to keep themselves alive.


Their way more money in the US than there is here and they wont even give the people free healthcare ? - we even get free collage.

Im glad I dont live in the US ask anyone in Europe and they will you they are thankful they dont live in the US.
I know a guy who used to live in LA and New York he said American is literaly hell for people who are not rich.
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