| The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party | |
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+5Tyrong Kojy oligarch Watermelon Riddler inkus2000 9 posters |
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Should a Libertarian socialist party be set up | Yes | | 46% | [ 6 ] | No | | 46% | [ 6 ] | undecided | | 8% | [ 1 ] |
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inkus2000 New Party Member
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| Subject: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party Thu May 01, 2008 4:15 am | |
| I am in an awkward position
The Social Democrats are full of social liberals/capitalists. All other Socialist party's are Marxist.
I am a Libertarian socialist - I believe in the elimination of the state, class and private property ect, however - Libertarian socialism is not Marxist.
I request that a Libertarian socialist party be set up. | |
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Riddler Hero of Socialist Labor
Posts : 488 Join date : 2008-01-31 Age : 33
| Subject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party Thu May 01, 2008 4:23 am | |
| What's its difference from socialist or social-democratic party? | |
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inkus2000 New Party Member
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| Subject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party Thu May 01, 2008 4:24 am | |
| - Riddler wrote:
- What's its difference from socialist or social-democratic party?
Social democrats are capitalists Socialists are Marxists Libertarian Socialists are neither. | |
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Watermelon ZEK in siberian gulag
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| Subject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party Thu May 01, 2008 4:49 am | |
| hell no. libertarian socialists are basically anarchites. you are def not a libsoc. | |
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oligarch Chairman of the WR Committee
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| Subject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party Thu May 01, 2008 4:57 am | |
| Sounds like you should join the anarchists then. | |
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inkus2000 New Party Member
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| Subject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party Thu May 01, 2008 5:07 am | |
| - oligarch wrote:
- Sounds like you should join the anarchists then.
I may just do that. | |
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| Subject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party Thu May 01, 2008 8:44 am | |
| - inkus2000 wrote:
- I am in an awkward position
The Social Democrats are full of social liberals/capitalists.
I am a Libertarian socialist - I believe in the elimination of the state, class and private property ect, however -. lololololololololololol by voting for obama |
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Tyrong Kojy Member of the Supreme Council
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| Subject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party Thu May 01, 2008 9:37 am | |
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Watermelon ZEK in siberian gulag
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| Subject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party Sun May 04, 2008 11:23 pm | |
| I've never heard of an anarchist that votes for Obama. | |
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inkus2000 New Party Member
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| Subject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party Sun May 04, 2008 11:59 pm | |
| - Watermelon wrote:
- I've never heard of an anarchist that votes for Obama.
well I dont live in the US for a start and I dont support obama, I said it would be better to vote for him on the basis that it would help keep McCain 'who is worse' out. If you dont vote in favor of the lesser of the two evils McCain would go ahead one vote - | |
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Watermelon ZEK in siberian gulag
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| Subject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party Mon May 05, 2008 12:02 am | |
| You may see it as lesser of two evils, but I see it as:
Candidate 1: Bourgeois Politician Candidate 2: Bourgeois Politician | |
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Jeiro Sijakeuigwan Experienced Party Member
Posts : 974 Join date : 2008-02-03 Age : 33 Location : The Circle of Flow
| Subject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party Mon May 05, 2008 12:04 am | |
| McCain might be a Vietnam War vet but he's one of the absolute crazy ones. He thinks he is all that simply because he suffered torture at the hands of the Viet Cong. He thinks he's gonna end the "War on Terror" and you know what? He just might.
By threatening the Middle East with that one red button... | |
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inkus2000 New Party Member
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| Subject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party Mon May 05, 2008 12:13 am | |
| - Watermelon wrote:
- You may see it as lesser of two evils, but I see it as:
Candidate 1: Bourgeois Politician Candidate 2: Bourgeois Politician I see it this way Candidate 1: Bourgeois Politician - who wants to nationalize healthcare Candidate 2: Bourgeois Politician - wants to murder another 40,000 muslim civilians. | |
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Watermelon ZEK in siberian gulag
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| Subject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party Mon May 05, 2008 12:16 am | |
| Obama does not want to nationalize health care
Obama wants to send more troops to Afghanistan | |
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inkus2000 New Party Member
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| Subject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party Mon May 05, 2008 12:27 am | |
| - Watermelon wrote:
- Obama does not want to nationalize health care
Obama wants to send more troops to Afghanistan He wants to make healthcare affordable or something then, the point is less people die if Obama gets in. | |
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Watermelon ZEK in siberian gulag
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| Subject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party Mon May 05, 2008 12:30 am | |
| I wouldn't be so sure. The repubs want to make it cheap also. Everyone wants cheap. | |
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Jeiro Sijakeuigwan Experienced Party Member
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| Subject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party Mon May 05, 2008 12:38 am | |
| - Watermelon wrote:
- I wouldn't be so sure. The repubs want to make it cheap also. Everyone wants cheap.
WTF?! The Repubs want to freaking ABOLISH national heathcare so that EVERYBODY, whether rich or poor, will be FORCED to pay sh!7loads of money! I had sugery on my freaking back and you know just how much that cost?! About half a million dollars. That's right, $500,000. That's more than what the average American family makes in a freaking YEAR, not counting tax and other expense. I hate Republicans soo much. Despite their name and what they claim to be, they are nothing but facist bastards! | |
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inkus2000 New Party Member
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| Subject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party Mon May 05, 2008 12:39 am | |
| - Watermelon wrote:
- I wouldn't be so sure. The repubs want to make it cheap also. Everyone wants cheap.
The repb want poor children to die in the gutter while their parents are forced to work for 1$ an hour in sweatshops with no rights - As for overseas policy they want to murder every man woman and child who thinks about a diff political system than neo liberalism. They also think the only Americans who should be allowed to vote 'or have any rights' are white middle class protestants, and by middle class I don't mean middle income I mean people on bout 50,959k a year. Of course they wont 'tell you' any of this but you can be pretty sure its all true. | |
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Watermelon ZEK in siberian gulag
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| Subject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party Mon May 05, 2008 12:40 am | |
| REpublicans and dems are not much different in reality. both support the bourgeoisie, natinalism, imperialism, suppression of the workers | |
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inkus2000 New Party Member
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| Subject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party Mon May 05, 2008 12:42 am | |
| [quote="Jeiro Sijakeuigwan"] - Watermelon wrote:
- I wouldn't be so sure. The repubs want to make it cheap also. Everyone wants cheap.
$500,000 ?!!!?!?!!!!???? Fuck ! Everything is free here. | |
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inkus2000 New Party Member
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| Subject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party Mon May 05, 2008 12:44 am | |
| - Watermelon wrote:
- REpublicans and dems are not much different in reality. both support the bourgeoisie, natinalism, imperialism, suppression of the workers
I agree, although the dems arn't as extreem. | |
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inkus2000 New Party Member
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| Subject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party Mon May 05, 2008 12:45 am | |
| - Quote :
- [quote="inkus2000"][quote="Jeiro Sijakeuigwan"]
$500,000 ?!!!?!?!!!!???? Fuck ! Everything is free here. | |
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Watermelon ZEK in siberian gulag
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Jeiro Sijakeuigwan Experienced Party Member
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| Subject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party Mon May 05, 2008 12:48 am | |
| - inkus2000 wrote:
$500,000 ?!!!?!?!!!!????
Fuck !
Everything is free here. lol, yeah. It suxs. Some people even pay 300 dollars for just one pill a day to keep themselves alive. | |
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inkus2000 New Party Member
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| Subject: Re: The creation of a libertarian Socialist Party Mon May 05, 2008 12:55 am | |
| - Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
- inkus2000 wrote:
$500,000 ?!!!?!?!!!!????
Fuck !
Everything is free here. lol, yeah. It suxs. Some people even pay 300 dollars for just one pill a day to keep themselves alive. Their way more money in the US than there is here and they wont even give the people free healthcare ? - we even get free collage. Im glad I dont live in the US ask anyone in Europe and they will you they are thankful they dont live in the US. I know a guy who used to live in LA and New York he said American is literaly hell for people who are not rich. | |
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