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PostSubject: Re: privatisation   Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:16 am

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Wakizashi wrote:


In the USSR the Workers DID control the means of production.
The state merely calculated how much production was necessary for the nation.

Soviet workers would entirely disagree with you, though.

The state controlled and owned the means of production, then coordinated the workers into producing goods and then sold those goods to the workers... Else, what you call "calculation" was actually "control" meaning the state actually controlled all the economy.

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Oh yes, and your system really lasted long

What's the relevance of this?

A working socialist system that last 4 years is worth inmensely more than a disfunctional state capitalist social dictatorship that call sitself socialist that lasts 69 years.

The problem the spanish revolutionaires faced was not lack of wrokability of their system but rather lack of autharchy and an overwhealming military pressure.

That was for 4 years, generally when you change systems, the people take it cool and do not watch the bad sides of it, because they are happy the old system is gone, but we really need a LONG TERM exemple to give credibility to Communism

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PostSubject: Re: privatisation   Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:07 am

Jesus wrote:

That was for 4 years, generally when you change systems, the people take it cool and do not watch the bad sides of it, because they are happy the old system is gone, but we really need a LONG TERM exemple to give credibility to Communism

People were not merely "happy" te old system was gone They were entirely satisfied that they runned every single aspect of the workings of their community, that's what they struggled for and that's what they achieved until they were militarily crushed.

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