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PostSubject: Re: Wants to know more...   Wed May 14, 2008 9:04 pm

Left is more goverment and right is less.
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PostSubject: Re: Wants to know more...   Thu May 15, 2008 4:10 am

Then anarchists would be right wing. YOur definition fails. left is more social liberty and economic equality and right is opposite.
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PostSubject: Re: Wants to know more...   Thu May 15, 2008 4:25 am

Watermelon wrote:
Then anarchists would be right wing. YOur definition fails. left is more social liberty and economic equality and right is opposite.

you mean left wing
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PostSubject: Re: Wants to know more...   Thu May 15, 2008 7:38 am

Watermelon wrote:
Then anarchists would be right wing. YOur definition fails. left is more social liberty and economic equality and right is opposite.
No, i know what i said and what i said is right.

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PostSubject: Re: Wants to know more...   Thu May 15, 2008 12:42 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-right_politics
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PostSubject: Re: Wants to know more...   Thu May 15, 2008 1:56 pm

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-right_politics
However, there are political ideologies that may serve as counter examples to this definition - libertarians, the authoritarian right, libertarian socialists, anarcho-syndicalists and the old right.


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PostSubject: Re: Wants to know more...   Thu May 15, 2008 2:19 pm

I didn't reaad it just a link, OWNED
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PostSubject: Re: Wants to know more...   Thu May 15, 2008 2:31 pm

There are multiple definitions. Libertarians say that less government interference is more right. some people say more equality is more left. some say that left is what I said. BUt always socialism and communism are left and liberalism is right.
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PostSubject: Re: Wants to know more...   Thu May 15, 2008 10:06 pm

left is Positive Freedom
right is Negtive Freedom
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PostSubject: Re: Wants to know more...   Thu May 15, 2008 10:29 pm

cary jebus wrote:
left is Positive Freedom
right is Negtive Freedom

so more freedom is BAD??? confused confused
I'm confused here
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PostSubject: Re: Wants to know more...   Fri May 16, 2008 12:24 am

Look it up on wikipedia positive and negative freedom.
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PostSubject: Re: Wants to know more...   Fri May 16, 2008 2:13 am

mattabesta wrote:
cary jebus wrote:
left is Positive Freedom
right is Negtive Freedom

so more freedom is BAD??? confused confused
I'm confused here

no, Negtive Freedom is bad. Positive Freedom is good.
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PostSubject: Re: Wants to know more...   Fri May 16, 2008 2:14 am

Watermelon wrote:
Look it up on wikipedia positive and negative freedom.


ill say it again that is p and n LIBERTY

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PostSubject: Re: Wants to know more...   Fri May 16, 2008 4:51 am

Watermelon wrote:
Look it up on wikipedia positive and negative freedom.

You can't find it on wikipedia, but you can find it here

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PostSubject: Re: Wants to know more...   Fri May 16, 2008 5:14 am

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What is this.. Right and Left everyone keeps talking about? Can someone explain? I am confused..

People on the left believe in direct democracy 'rule of the majority by the majority' and common ownership of the means of production. We believe in political equality, economic equality and equality of opertunity. Inequality from our perspective leads to a range of social problems and should be eradicated.


People on the right believe in private ownership over the means of production , they are against direct democracy and believe that political power belongs in the hands of the few - invariably those who own the means of production.
They generally believe in plutocracy as opposed to democracy 'despite what they say'. They view inequality as natural and therefore not worth adressing.
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PostSubject: Re: Wants to know more...   Fri May 16, 2008 5:28 am

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People on the left believe in direct democracy 'rule of the majority by the majority'

The only problem i have with what Inkus said is the rule of the majority. Anarchists are not democrats or dictators. We believe in free association and no rule whatever. We are democratic only to the extent that those that choose to involve themselves in any part of society make decisions between themselves.

But since there is no government or law in an anarchic society, democratic politics are not an issue. In other words, the majority is not able to supress, repress, or oppress a minority.

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PostSubject: Re: Wants to know more...   Fri May 16, 2008 5:36 am

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But since there is no government or law in an anarchic society, democratic politics are not an issue. In other words, the majority is not able to supress, repress, or oppress a minority.-


Yea I mean anarchic society would be the purest form of democracy because
everyone has total self determination

I should have said rule of all
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PostSubject: Re: Wants to know more...   Fri May 16, 2008 11:57 pm

there can be workers communs in anarchy
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PostSubject: Re: Wants to know more...   Sat May 17, 2008 2:55 am

cary jebus wrote:
there can be workers communs in anarchy

Of course, like anarco syndicalsim
If workers decide they want to live in communes they can, if they want to live and work outside a community they can their is no set of rules its pure liberty.
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PostSubject: Re: Wants to know more...   Tue May 27, 2008 6:23 pm

won't ancracy like turn back into tribalism?
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PostSubject: Re: Wants to know more...   Wed May 28, 2008 1:09 am

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won't ancracy like turn back into tribalism?

It would be similar in some ways - it would be incorrect to call it tribalism since it will not function primarily on the basis of kinship. Global society will continue to develop and flourish in the absence of powerful institutions.
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PostSubject: Re: Wants to know more...   Wed May 28, 2008 10:55 am

maybe, ...
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