May I join Komsomol?

I've been active on the forum, so I've decided to join the Komsomol.

Shabazz Freeman wrote:

i don't want a hater of gays in komsomol

period

I'm not a hater of gays, I'm a family protogonist. And why does that bothers you? Are you gay?

Maybe you are confusing komsomol with mow crij.

maybe i don't like haters of gays?

oh yeah your're right

I am a maniacal dictator hell bent on controling everyone by not liking intolerance...oh i see now watermelon

i have wronged.

Seriously though, stop popping out with petty attempts like that

komsomol is not just for mow cirj people. It is for anyone with enough posts.

Watermelon wrote:

komsomol is not just for mow cirj people. It is for anyone with enough posts.

eww

fine
i don't like him

You shouldn't let political differences interfere with you personal friendships. I mean I understand for a KKK person but I have many friends who are capitalists in fact all of them are.

this isn't politics

he would take the rights of gays away if he had the chance

that's offensive

like nazis that would kill jews and people the disabled if they had the chance

Exactly this isn't politics so it doesn't matter.

By the way do you like the quotes in my sig?

The first one is from the French Revolution the second one is from Rosa Luxemburg.

So what's the decision?

You made it obviously but of course kenzu will only let you in ten days late.

No, not in 10 days, but in 30!
just kidding...

You have to pass the following exam:

please answer all questions! 75% is needed to pass (at least 15 out of 20)

2 points
Explain communism in at least one sentence:

2 points
Explain socialism in at least one sentence:

2 points
Explain capitalism in at least one sentence:

2 points
Explain democracy in at least one sentence:

2 points
Explain dictatorship in at least one sentence:

2 points
Name at least one communist country:

2 points
How many communist countries exist currently?

2 points
What kind of economic system is there currently in EU countries?
(type the name of the system)

2 points
Give a scenario when each of the following is bad:
dictatorship, democracy

2 points
What are the strengths and weaknesses of free market and centrally planned economy. (name at least one strength and one weakness for each.)

75% are needed to pass!

2 points
Explain communism in at least one sentence:
Communism is a social system with socialized property, where all members are equal. Communism can be achieved only after long years of devellopement of socialism.

2 points
Explain socialism in at least one sentence:
Socialism is a socio-economical system which goal is to make all people equal, or at least relatively equal.

2 points
Explain capitalism in at least one sentence:
Capitalism is a socio-economical system where everybody's goal is to make themselves more rich.

2 points
Explain democracy in at least one sentence:
Democracy is a form of governement, where people can elect their leaders. Total democracy can be achieved only in fully develloped socialist nation.

2 points
Explain dictatorship in at least one sentence:
Dictatorship is a form of government, where the state is controlled by one person or a group of people. Dictatorship could be authoritarian or totalitarian.

2 points
Name at least one communist country:
There are none, because communism haven't been acheived yet in the world.

2 points
How many communist countries exist currently?
None, there are only socialist countries.

2 points
What kind of economic system is there currently in EU countries?
Capitalism.

2 points
Give a scenario when each of the following is bad:
dictatorship, democracy
Parlamentarian democracy is bad, because it's not the people who rule the country, but a small elitarian group. Plus, a leader who can be elected only for a small period of time won't rule his country very good. Totalitarian dictatorship isn't good either, because if dictator has the ultimate power, he has no sense in making the life of his people better. So authoritarian dictatorship(like in Cuba, Venesuela) could be useful to build a socialist nation, after it could be replaced by total democracy.

2 points
What are the strengths and weaknesses of free market and centrally planned economy. (name at least one strength and one weakness for each.)
In free market, the economy is controlled by oligarchs, who don't care about the country or the people. The strength: no corruption. In planned economy, the state decides, how to use the money. The weakness: there's a big chance of corruption in the government.

P.S. Sorry for my bad English))

10 points, sorry even I just saw your hatred and unobjectivness shining righttrought

mattabesta wrote:

10 points, sorry even I just saw your hatred and unobjectivness shining righttrought

Hatred? Where?

Riddler wrote:

Explain democracy in at least one sentence[/i]:
Democracy is a form of governement, where people can elect their leaders. Total democracy can be achieved only in fully develloped socialist nation.

You have NO grounds for the latter part.

Riddler wrote:

So authoritarian dictatorship(like in Cuba, Venesuela) could be useful to build a socialist nation, after it could be replaced by total democracy.

so castro has improved cuban life standars so much that 10% of the nation fled to the next capitalist cuntry

Riddler wrote:

In free market, the economy is controlled by oligarchs, who don't care about the country or the people. The strength: no corruption.

not really since they depend on the pepole and the grounds for olriacy are usally currubtion as in russia or "pure" capitalism as in the usa.

Riddler wrote:

2 points
Explain communism in at least one sentence:
Communism is a social system with socialized property, where all members are equal. Communism can be achieved only after long years of devellopement of socialism.

2 points, excellent!

Riddler wrote:

2 points
Explain socialism in at least one sentence:
Socialism is a socio-economical system which goal is to make all people equal, or at least relatively equal.

2 points,
Excellent!
(it's however better to mention equal rights and equal opportunities than only saying equal.)

Riddler wrote:

2 points
Explain capitalism in at least one sentence:
Capitalism is a socio-economical system where everybody's goal is to make themselves more rich.

1.5 points
The idea of capitalism is however that if you work hard, you will be rich. The idea of capitalism neglects the reality that through honest hard work it's nearly impossible to become rich. Usually money is needed to generate more money, and workers are nothing more than a tool, a resource.

Riddler wrote:

2 points
Explain democracy in at least one sentence:
Democracy is a form of governement, where people can elect their leaders. Total democracy can be achieved only in fully developed socialist nation.

1.5 points
I think there are more types of systems were democracy can work best. I think democracy in a communist society would be even better! It's almost never good to use absolutes, however if we look at socialism and capitalism, democracy works better under socialism, because in capitalism votes are often bought with money.

Riddler wrote:

2 points
Explain dictatorship in at least one sentence:
Dictatorship is a form of government, where the state is controlled by one person or a group of people. Dictatorship could be authoritarian or totalitarian.

2 points
Correct!

Riddler wrote:

2 points
Name at least one communist country:
There are none, because communism haven't been acheived yet in the world.

2 points
It's common knowledge.

Riddler wrote:

2 points
How many communist countries exist currently?
None, there are only socialist countries.

2 points
True.

Riddler wrote:

2 points
What kind of economic system is there currently in EU countries?
Capitalism.

1 point
There is actually a mix inbetween socialism and capitalism called social-democracy. All countries have free health care and many countries have free education (or at an affordable cost for everyone). The EU social welfare states guarantee certain living standard through laws: 8 hour work day, minimum wage, paid vacation regulations, strong trade unions...
Socialism is quite popular in EU and socialists and communists are represented in most if not all parliaments. In some EU countries the left-wing parties are ruling the country.

The following EU countries are being governed by parties of the Socialist International:

Austria - Social Democratic Party of Austria
Belgium - Socialist Party
Bulgaria - Party of Bulgarian Social Democrats
Bulgaria - Bulgarian Socialist Party
Estonia - Social Democratic Party
Germany - Social Democratic Party of Germany
Hungary - Hungarian Socialist Party
Lithuania - Social Democratic Party of Lithuania
Netherlands - Labour Party
Northern Ireland - Social Democratic and Labour Party
Norway - Norwegian Labour Party
Portugal - Socialist Party
Slovakia - Direction - Social Democracy
Spain - Spanish Socialist Workers' Party
United Kingdom - Labour Party

In the European Parliament out of 732 seats

European United Left–Nordic Green Left
(communist, socialist and green)
41

Party of European Socialists
(socialist, social democratic)
215

and the biggest group:

European People's Party–European Democrats
(soocial democrats, but centre right)
218

Riddler wrote:

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2 points
Give a scenario when each of the following is bad:
dictatorship, democracy
Parlamentarian democracy is bad, because it's not the people who rule the country, but a small elitarian group. Plus, a leader who can be elected only for a small period of time won't rule his country very good. Totalitarian dictatorship isn't good either, because if dictator has the ultimate power, he has no sense in making the life of his people better. So authoritarian dictatorship(like in Cuba, Venesuela) could be useful to build a socialist nation, after it could be replaced by total democracy.

1p
I asked about democracy, by that is automatically meant direct democracy. Such democracy can be bad if this power is used by a majority to oppress a minority.

Riddler wrote:

2 points
What are the strengths and weaknesses of free market and centrally planned economy. (name at least one strength and one weakness for each.)
In free market, the economy is controlled by oligarchs, who don't care about the country or the people. The strength: no corruption. In planned economy, the state decides, how to use the money. The weakness: there's a big chance of corruption in the government.

0 points, actually there is quite a lot of corruption in the free market. socialist countries, which emphasised planned economy in the past didnt see corruption of such magnitude like free market countries, because the system prevented the people from becomming extremely rich and so the birbes were kept low.

the stregth of free market is its rapid economy growth, the weakness is market failure, ie. too little goods and services that are needed are supplied (not enough health care and education for the poor, and starvation for the poorest).

planned economy prevents market failure because the regulation acts against the market forces of supply and demand and can prevent a high price caused by too little supply or a monopoly.

Riddler wrote:

P.S. Sorry for my bad English))

15 points out of 20
75%

PASSED

A barely passing grade :O... well I had 16/20~*dance*

oh well i had i think 18 pwn! plus my answrs were right just kenzu hates siuntific people but i wasnt going to argue since i got in anyway.

kenzu, I never took the quiz lol I'm not complaining, but it is a little unfair to the other people isn't it? Or do you only have to take it if you don't get enough votes?

Watermelon wrote:

oh well i had i think 18 pwn! plus my answrs were right just kenzu hates siuntific people but i wasnt going to argue since i got in anyway.

You just full of yourself aren't you?

some maybe say its equivalent with being full of Sh*t

but I'll be reserved.

the test doesn't really mean much to me

i got a 15/20 simply because had a different understanding of democracy, socialism, capitalism, etc. being a trotskyist.

I'll be damned if i base my knowledge of marxism/trotskyism on that test

Liche wrote:

kenzu, I never took the quiz lol I'm not complaining, but it is a little unfair to the other people isn't it? Or do you only have to take it if you don't get enough votes?

maybe you joined in the beginning when there was no test yet.