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PostSubject: Re: Does incentive pervert morality?   Sun May 25, 2008 9:10 pm

[/quote]and when people are rejected usually its because the other person is too good. this wouldn't happen if we had a classes society[/quote].

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PostSubject: Re: Does incentive pervert morality?   Mon May 26, 2008 4:33 am

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most murders are done in rage i thinks something like 60% of murders are family related the rest would be druggies and pepole with mental instability only a tiny part is organised crime


I completely disagree

I think most murder is politically motivated and 'not' committed by the indavidual but by groups and institutions - namely nations 'often guided by market forces'

The prob is that no one 'calls' it murder when its legitimized by a powerful state. The motivation's behind state murder are usually want of natural resources/financial enrichment. - Iraqi children killed by US air raids are not considered murdered - they are considered collateral damage

If a murderer owns the mass media he can convince people that he is not actually a murderer - he could even convince people that he a saint -

Why ? Because he would control popular perception - this is the key difference between a druggie who kills for his next fix and the 20 corporate managers who arrange to kill 20 thousand children for increased profits.

The US argues It did not intend to kill the children.
The druggie argues that he did not intend to kill the shopkeeper.

The truth is that most murder is 'very' well planned -
I would consider that both organized and criminal.

Very few murders are due to mental illness
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PostSubject: Re: Does incentive pervert morality?   Tue May 27, 2008 7:05 pm

inkus2000 wrote:
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most murders are done in rage i thinks something like 60% of murders are family related the rest would be druggies and pepole with mental instability only a tiny part is organised crime


I completely disagree

I think most murder is politically motivated and 'not' committed by the indavidual but by groups and institutions - namely nations 'often guided by market forces'

The prob is that no one 'calls' it murder when its legitimized by a powerful state. The motivation's behind state murder are usually want of natural resources/financial enrichment. - Iraqi children killed by US air raids are not considered murdered - they are considered collateral damage

If a murderer owns the mass media he can convince people that he is not actually a murderer - he could even convince people that he a saint -

Why ? Because he would control popular perception - this is the key difference between a druggie who kills for his next fix and the 20 corporate managers who arrange to kill 20 thousand children for increased profits.

The US argues It did not intend to kill the children.
The druggie argues that he did not intend to kill the shopkeeper.

The truth is that most murder is 'very' well planned -
I would consider that both organized and criminal.

Very few murders are due to mental illness

Valid point. a man kills 1 man in passion he gets life in prison while the man who kills hundreds in the name of his country is awarded a medal.

but the argument remains the same. in an anarchist society both forms would be severly decreased if not completely abolished
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PostSubject: Re: Does incentive pervert morality?   Tue May 27, 2008 10:31 pm

Alek4A wrote:
inkus2000 wrote:
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most murders are done in rage i thinks something like 60% of murders are family related the rest would be druggies and pepole with mental instability only a tiny part is organised crime


I completely disagree

I think most murder is politically motivated and 'not' committed by the indavidual but by groups and institutions - namely nations 'often guided by market forces'

The prob is that no one 'calls' it murder when its legitimized by a powerful state. The motivation's behind state murder are usually want of natural resources/financial enrichment. - Iraqi children killed by US air raids are not considered murdered - they are considered collateral damage

If a murderer owns the mass media he can convince people that he is not actually a murderer - he could even convince people that he a saint -

Why ? Because he would control popular perception - this is the key difference between a druggie who kills for his next fix and the 20 corporate managers who arrange to kill 20 thousand children for increased profits.

The US argues It did not intend to kill the children.
The druggie argues that he did not intend to kill the shopkeeper.

The truth is that most murder is 'very' well planned -
I would consider that both organized and criminal.

Very few murders are due to mental illness

Valid point. a man kills 1 man in passion he gets life in prison while the man who kills hundreds in the name of his country is awarded a medal.

but the argument remains the same. in an anarchist society both forms would be severly decreased if not completely abolished





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