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PostSubject: Capitalism in Music   Wed May 21, 2008 2:37 am

http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=9KW8DRSvEoQ

One of the more appropriate ways of portraying capitalism I saw in years.
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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism in Music   Wed May 21, 2008 3:19 am

That was truely EPIC. I shall send this to my friends. ^^

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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism in Music   Wed May 21, 2008 4:11 am

OK....

1) It's a song by Genesis. One of the rare cases a remake is better than the original.
2) it's not insulting just Capitolism but ALL governments.
3) listen to Metallica's And Justice for All Album if you want something to ding america.
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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism in Music   Wed May 21, 2008 12:28 pm

point 2) is a bit missed, it depicts that all govarments are arguing with each other becous
a) they are commanded to do so by corporations ( the fat guy)
or
b) it shows how they just aimlessly argue while the corporations watch, smirk and just do as they pleas.

Either way - there Capitalist puppets, yes all of the govarments
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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism in Music   Fri May 23, 2008 4:40 am

Love both song and vid. I saw it a long time ago, when it was first released.

It should be noted, however, that the impression I got from it was that the fat dude, the comany was supplying arms and soldeires to all sides of the conflict. There was only one faction shown doing any actual fihting. Showing all the other flags ont heir arms gave me the impression that, again, they were all being supplied by the one guy, thus making him much moolah.

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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism in Music   Thu May 29, 2008 11:51 pm

Cyprian Uljanow wrote:
point 2) is a bit missed, it depicts that all govarments are arguing with each other becous
a) they are commanded to do so by corporations ( the fat guy)
or
b) it shows how they just aimlessly argue while the corporations watch, smirk and just do as they pleas.

Either way - there Capitalist puppets, yes all of the govarments

the goverment IS a corperation!.
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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism in Music   Fri May 30, 2008 11:27 am

Tyrong Kojy wrote:
Love both song and vid. I saw it a long time ago, when it was first released.

It should be noted, however, that the impression I got from it was that the fat dude, the comany was supplying arms and soldeires to all sides of the conflict. There was only one faction shown doing any actual fihting. Showing all the other flags ont heir arms gave me the impression that, again, they were all being supplied by the one guy, thus making him much moolah.


Would make sense if it wasn't for the fact that the soldiers never fought each other - notice there all attacking Civilians and Civilian buildings
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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism in Music   Fri May 30, 2008 2:27 pm

Cyprian Uljanow wrote:
Tyrong Kojy wrote:
Love both song and vid. I saw it a long
.


Would make sense if it wasn't for the fact that the soldiers never fought each other - notice there all attacking Civilians and Civilian buildings

You re giving a very harsh claim without any proof. So you re meaning that in every war which was ever fought there were no soldier casualities but only civils. Thats dumb. Off course the civil population suffers most from a war but please be more objective. Shoouting out Parols has never achieved something really big. Oh yeah BTW that vid was really great. Not quiet my opinion but a great piece of musik n animation.
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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism in Music   Fri May 30, 2008 7:48 pm

Im referring to the Music video not history lol - check twice before commenting Razz

And I do believe that most 20 century wars other than WW2 and WW1 wore indeed fought for money.
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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism in Music   Fri May 30, 2008 8:24 pm

Cyprian Uljanow wrote:
Im referring to the Music video not history lol - check twice before commenting Razz

And I do believe that most 20 century wars other than WW2 and WW1 wore indeed fought for money.
wwI and wwII were both fought for money

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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism in Music   Fri May 30, 2008 8:48 pm

mononokifool wrote:
Cyprian Uljanow wrote:
Im referring to the Music video not history lol - check twice before commenting Razz

And I do believe that most 20 century wars other than WW2 and WW1 wore indeed fought for money.
wwI and wwII were both fought for money

wow I just wrote down an essay on your stupidity but I would get banned for it so...
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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism in Music   Sat May 31, 2008 12:01 am

I must agree with Matt partly sadly Mono, WW1 was done indeed for money , but WW2 was for Ideology.
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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism in Music   Sat May 31, 2008 1:21 am

Cyprian Uljanow wrote:
I must agree with Matt partly sadly Mono, WW1 was done indeed for money , but WW2 was for Ideology.

exacly though WW1 was also just imperial ambition wich turned into a stalemate.
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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism in Music   Sat May 31, 2008 2:48 am

Cyprian Uljanow wrote:

And I do believe that most 20 century wars other than WW2 and WW1 wore indeed fought for money.

Smart and true cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism in Music   Sat May 31, 2008 9:51 am

Ok lets here the essay. It might have been an ideal for germany but for america it was completely for money. Dont tell me something that you have no idea on. America loaned out loads of stuff to the allies and if they had lost guess how much money they would have been out. Do you think America would let them loose billions of dollars? NO

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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism in Music   Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:01 am

mattabesta wrote:
mononokifool wrote:
Cyprian Uljanow wrote:
Im referring to the Music video not history lol - check twice before commenting Razz

And I do believe that most 20 century wars other than WW2 and WW1 wore indeed fought for money.
wwI and wwII were both fought for money

wow I just wrote down an essay on your stupidity but I would get banned for it so...
im still waiting for the essay

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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism in Music   Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:20 am

didnt liked the video, or the music. it was kinda lame. but the consept did had someting cyclops
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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism in Music   Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:00 am

Money will always be an underlying reson. It's like when I heard Lincoln freed the slaves because some dudes who supported him found it cost them money. Someone will always profit, no matter the decision, nor the reasons. Yes, it was in America's best interests financially. But the Allies had been hurt very bad by then. Then Japan attacked America, forcing them into the war. Thus, it was two fold. Money, and, well, they attacked. And since they're fighting Japan, well, they might as well save their monetary interests and save their allies.

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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism in Music   Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:33 am

Tyrong Kojy wrote:
Money will always be an underlying reson. It's like when I heard Lincoln freed the slaves because some dudes who supported him found it cost them money. Someone will always profit, no matter the decision, nor the reasons. Yes, it was in America's best interests financially. But the Allies had been hurt very bad by then. Then Japan attacked America, forcing them into the war. Thus, it was two fold. Money, and, well, they attacked. And since they're fighting Japan, well, they might as well save their monetary interests and save their allies.
you know why japan attacked? they put a blockade on japan so they couldnt get and goods in. goods = money

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PostSubject: Re: Capitalism in Music   Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:19 am

Really? I didn't know that. Well, another underlying reason. There you have it.

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