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PostSubject: A political demonstration of Trotskyism...   Sun May 25, 2008 7:35 am

Emy...post your argument on USSR being state capitalist and prove Leninism and it's ties to Stalinism

im tired of seeing pseudo marxism/reformism being profusely sprayed all over the forum

lets end this
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PostSubject: Re: A political demonstration of Trotskyism...   Sun May 25, 2008 7:46 am

lenin pwned stalin sucked.... GET OVER IT LEFT COMMIE! WE TROTS RULE
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PostSubject: Re: A political demonstration of Trotskyism...   Sun May 25, 2008 7:56 am

cary jebus wrote:
lenin pwned stalin sucked.... GET OVER IT LEFT COMMIE! WE TROTS RULE

I don't know what your politics are exactly but i am trying to take this seriously so i can formally defeat him in this debate and put on this forum publicly what trotskyism is counterpoised to cliffite theory and all of that other psuedo marxism.
I hope he isn't off on that spelling bee already
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PostSubject: Re: A political demonstration of Trotskyism...   Thu May 29, 2008 11:50 pm

there is no suck thing as defeat in a debate, only one person accepts it.

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PostSubject: Re: A political demonstration of Trotskyism...   Sat May 31, 2008 11:00 pm

please bring him to justice when you come back shabazz.
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PostSubject: Re: A political demonstration of Trotskyism...   Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:55 am

Personally I'm cool with Trots, I agree in some of the key features with them.
I still think he's a Stalinist - he can claim he's a Trot all he wants, dosn't make him one, his behaviour and actions speak for themselves.

USSR claimed to be Communist too.
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PostSubject: Re: A political demonstration of Trotskyism...   Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:31 am

Cyprian Uljanow wrote:

I still think he's a Stalinist - he can claim he's a Trot all he wants, dosn't make him one, his behaviour and actions speak for themselves.

USSR claimed to be Communist too.

Who? If Emy, then yes. Stalin was all like, "If you do not follow my way of communism, then you are an anti-communist!" *has them shot* Emy isn't much different.

And yeah, Russia can claim that, (so can China) but just who knows...who knows...

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PostSubject: Re: A political demonstration of Trotskyism...   Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:39 am

he doesn't claim to be a trot

he has degraded himself to a cliffite

and i personally do think that if you are not a dialectical marxist
I.E. Trotskyist, then you are inherently reformist for various reasons

namely history and the nature of the state

BUT

This thread is me demonstrating the strength and truth of Trotskyism AGAINST Emy's cliffite idealist mix up of politics NOT destroying emy's trotskyism

Emy used to call himself a trot cause of me but never really was
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PostSubject: Re: A political demonstration of Trotskyism...   Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:41 pm

Im not a cliffite. Im a left communist. I dont support any form of leninism or trotskyism. ussr is state cappie because the state owns the means of production. socilaism is when workers own means of production. end.
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PostSubject: Re: A political demonstration of Trotskyism...   Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:56 pm

care to go into more detail?

otherwise it's gonna be REALLY easy to fuck that up

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PostSubject: Re: A political demonstration of Trotskyism...   Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:33 am

mebbe i dont like dietale. gotta problem wit dat ?
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PostSubject: Re: A political demonstration of Trotskyism...   Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:00 am

so you are alright with me destroying that right?
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PostSubject: Re: A political demonstration of Trotskyism...   Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:10 am

Get on with it Razz Watching Emy get owned is one of my favourite entertainments
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