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PostSubject: What is Art?   Tue May 27, 2008 2:19 am

Some people tend to say: "This is gross/morally wrong etc. so it cant be art because art have to be nice"
For me every piece of craft/painting/scultpture/musik just a product of human culture is considered as art AS LONG AS no real humans are being hurt. So it can be really gross or sick stuff. In my opinion art has to be free from moral bounds. The only restriction is a humans health/life.
In my opinion even this is some kind of art:
(warning: really sick sick sick japanese guro minor rape scene-its not real but a painting but you might be shocked aswell-I warned you)
IT IS REALLY REALLY SICK so dont look if you think you cant cope with it
the name says it all
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Baby_fuck

i have a real twisted mind Evil or Very Mad


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PostSubject: Re: What is Art?   Thu May 29, 2008 3:02 pm

BAWWWWWWW nobody is answering to my threat
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PostSubject: Re: What is Art?   Thu May 29, 2008 3:08 pm

What the fuck was that.......
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PostSubject: Re: What is Art?   Thu May 29, 2008 8:29 pm

just so you know, keep that shit on /b/, you dont have to act like a complete idiot and try and show off so nobody thinks your newfag. keep it to realatable topics here.

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PostSubject: Re: What is Art?   Fri May 30, 2008 12:15 am

actually I didnt intend to spam this board with /b/ shit... I have much badder stuff if I intended
this was a serious question about your view which stuff can be considered as art and which not and why you think so... guess my subject line wasnt clear enough...
So again my question: "Should the definition of "ART" depend on moral views or values?
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PostSubject: Re: What is Art?   Fri May 30, 2008 12:52 am

Holy. F***ing. Sh!7. Indeed. Evil or Very Mad

But ya, keep it on /b/. This is a political forum, not some forum were lurkers lurk to do crazy shit.

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PostSubject: Re: What is Art?   Fri May 30, 2008 5:02 am

Read my question because Im meaning this serious. Make a comment about your opinion towards the relationship between moral and arts or just let it be... btw I warned you by writing what would await you and I think that Im not violating this forum's rules because its only a link and not implemented in the site itself.
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PostSubject: Re: What is Art?   Fri May 30, 2008 5:53 am

Blackartviper wrote:
Read my question because Im meaning this serious. Make a comment about your opinion towards the relationship between moral and arts or just let it be... btw I warned you by writing what would await you and I think that Im not violating this forum's rules because its only a link and not implemented in the site itself.
pornography/child abuse/woman abuse/rape/hentai will never be art in my book. Anything that glorifies and lets sick fucks get off on that stuff is trash.

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PostSubject: Re: What is Art?   Fri May 30, 2008 2:15 pm

yea but whats about the drawing skills? some have some pretty good skills and can also work great with colors and shadow/light effects? There are some artistic skills. I guess this stuff does not glorify anything since its not saying something like "come on you have to repeat that!" or showing the violater in a glorious way like the nazi propaganda did. Under your definition every M-rated movie would be bad and some are pretty good though. Whats about "The Godfather" ? Ther are also some pretty brutal scenes and the protagonist does not try to solve his problems in a diplomatic way. Yet it is a big hunk of film art.
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PostSubject: Re: What is Art?   Fri May 30, 2008 2:42 pm

Blackartviper wrote:
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Baby_fuck

i have a real twisted mind Evil or Very Mad

I don't consider that art.
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PostSubject: Re: What is Art?   Sat May 31, 2008 2:45 am

hmmm whether it is good or bad art. But I think this is art at least
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PostSubject: Re: What is Art?   Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:01 am

...some explanations why you do not consider that as art would be nice though... and not something simple like "its disgusting"... because it is but so is sometimes art
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PostSubject: Re: What is Art?   Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:24 pm

its defanately art
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PostSubject: I just logged myself at my buddys pc-its me blackartviper   Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:34 pm

An other example. Art has the task to provoke. To cause feelings. Whether this feelings are admiration or disgust. Just watch at the Beneton ad campaings during the 80s where they took some shocking pictures. This stuff is a controversary but is considered as art
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