china

mattabesta wrote:

correct.
but china is a new super power and many pepole are afraid of what china will do when it finally complytly overtakes the u.s .
I mean will china do nothing to stop climet change.
will it try to provke communism in other cunties like the ussr did?
How knows where theier heading?

China cannot promote a doctrine it doesn't follow, that is, it cannot promote communism.

It will be in my view some sort of non-imperialist USA with a "red" face which will, as it is doing right now, take advantage of other countries' imperialisms.

Comrade-kRad wrote:

"communism dose not work" that's because people crave power, wealth, and status. People for the most part are inheriently greedy. Those that are not are often corrupted by wealth and power later on.

I'd say communism hasn't been even tried to be established because all the "attempts" to establish it have been employing capitalism.

Comrade-kRad wrote:

Anyway, I think that china still has many labor law issues to be dealt with, and before they need to worry about minimum wage they should adress saftey issues in alot of the idustries. Mine working for example is extremely dangerous in China due to lack of saftey codes or inspections.
They are growing economically because they have become more open to letting outside investors in and allowing for a more open trade market.

Yes, that's a more efficient State Capitalism.

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

correct.
but china is a new super power and many pepole are afraid of what china will do when it finally complytly overtakes the u.s .
I mean will china do nothing to stop climet change.
will it try to provke communism in other cunties like the ussr did?
How knows where theier heading?

China cannot promote a doctrine it doesn't follow, that is, it cannot promote communism.

It will be in my view some sort of non-imperialist USA with a "red" face which will, as it is doing right now, take advantage of other countries' imperialisms.

yeah they gave up on trying

mattabesta wrote:

yeah they gave up on trying

They simply never tried.

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

yeah they gave up on trying

They simply never tried.

why? what they are doing now seems to be working out for this once poor nation.

Diogritor wrote:

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

yeah they gave up on trying

They simply never tried.

why? what they are doing now seems to be working out for this once poor nation.

China can't be poor: full of resources and workforce and having a vast territory.

They're simply following the path to make their state capitalism to function more efficiently than it did.

I personally think China is on it's way to the great nation it once was back during the Dynasties of the old...

It will take a while for them to get there, but I have absolute confidence that they can and will. Simply because of one thing that most Westerns can not and WILL NOT bear to understand.

Tradition. ^^

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

Diogritor wrote:

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

yeah they gave up on trying

They simply never tried.

why? what they are doing now seems to be working out for this once poor nation.

China can't be poor: full of resources and workforce and having a vast territory.

They're simply following the path to make their state capitalism to function more efficiently than it did.

umm before enclosed marked
http://www.anc.org.za/ancdocs/pubs/umrabulo/umrabulo22/images/china-graph.gif
and after check it out

mattabesta wrote:

umm before enclosed marked
http://www.anc.org.za/ancdocs/pubs/umrabulo/umrabulo22/images/china-graph.gif
and after check it out

What's your point?

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

umm before enclosed marked
http://www.anc.org.za/ancdocs/pubs/umrabulo/umrabulo22/images/china-graph.gif
and after check it out

What's your point?

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm growth in life standards and gpd= iormus

mattabesta wrote:

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

umm before enclosed marked
http://www.anc.org.za/ancdocs/pubs/umrabulo/umrabulo22/images/china-graph.gif
and after check it out

What's your point?

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm growth in life standards and gpd= iormus

Iormus?

China is one of the farthest things from communism

Look, everybody, as a Chinese, I see that Communism has been virtually destroyed in it. Political regulations are tight, but economic regulations virtually don't exist anymore. Yet the children still sing the age old songs of Communism, and I have no doubt that their parents still do, too.

China's economy got better after a combination of the shedding of state property and the embracing of a more open policy.

carmen510 wrote:

China's economy got better after a combination of the shedding of state property and the embracing of a more open policy.

ya but the polution is so hidh and and if the bubbel burst chinas in trubel.

China has been becoming more capitalist since Deng Xiaopings market reforms of the 1980's. In 2002 the Chinese communist party began to allow capitalists to join the party, ironic i know LOL . Anyway since then an est 3 million have joined.


It must be understood however that the Chinese communist party remains split into two factions, The Shanghi coalition 'free market liberals' and The communist youthleauge the latter are left leaning and more in line with socialist principals, their members are mostly from Chinas interior provinces and rural areas.

Until the appointment of HuJintao the shanghi coalition ran things, however Hu is a member of the Communist youthleage as are most of the politburo.
HuJintao has made clear his agenda and seeks to cure many of the social ills caused by Chinas fast rise ie the wealth gap ect.

He does not seem to be moving back towards any sort socialist economic model but his plan for a harmonious society has been compared with the vision of old labor in the UK.

The Socialist Market Economy policy isn't exactly at odds with socialism and there is actually not a lack of social progress since China is actually still a very poor country but free and universal primary school now exists and progress is being made towards universal secondary school and health coverage. Labor rights and wages are always increasing as well.

China no longer has market socialism only a third of the economy is state owned so it is mainly capitalist as far as economics go.

It could be best described as a mixed economy.

inkus2000 wrote:

China no longer has market socialism only a third of the economy is state owned so it is mainly capitalist as far as economics go.

It could be best described as a mixed economy.

It was always capitalism anyway.

inkus2000 wrote:

China no longer has market socialism only a third of the economy is state owned so it is mainly capitalist as far as economics go.

It could be best described as a mixed economy.

Perhaps, but I was referring to the official name of the current policy.

oligarch wrote:

The Socialist Market Economy policy isn't exactly at odds with socialism and there is actually not a lack of social progress since China is actually still a very poor country but free and universal primary school now exists and progress is being made towards universal secondary school and health coverage. Labor rights and wages are always increasing as well.

chinas avreag income is 900$.
the avrage income in cityes is about 10 times higer, HUGE GAP

To quote a native born Chinese declaring his country, "We are the greatest 3rd world Nation in the world."

Enough said.

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:

To quote a native born Chinese declaring his country, "We are the greatest 3rd world Nation in the world."

Enough said.

thechincly they aren't 3rd world they are 4th, fast growing emerging cuntry.

that would be 2nd world. 1st world is places like US and UK

Diogritor wrote:

that would be 2nd world. 1st world is places like US and UK

morelike Denmark,Iceland,sweden,norway and finland sice all but denmark are top ten best places to live.