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PostSubject: Juneteenth   Juneteenth Icon_minitimeFri Jun 20, 2008 9:51 am

anyone celebrating it?

I am gonna try and sell literature to the youth at the SF demonstration this weekend and ideally win some radicals over to a trotskyist perspective with my comrades

http://www.juneteenth.com/
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PostSubject: Re: Juneteenth   Juneteenth Icon_minitimeFri Jun 20, 2008 8:51 pm

I may, because it was a big step in the right direction, but slavery hasn't ended in the US. There's still wage-slavery, child labour, and immigrants gettin paid pennies to do legitimate, valuable work. But i did request the day off work so i could go up to Five Points, at least for a couple hours.
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PostSubject: Re: Juneteenth   Juneteenth Icon_minitimeFri Jun 20, 2008 8:56 pm

wage-slavery does exist but chattel slavery has been smashed

they are not equal forms of exploitation and to put them on the same level is insensitive in my opinion.

Not to say that wage-slavery isn't a terrible form of exploitation, i just feel funny equating them...
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PostSubject: Re: Juneteenth   Juneteenth Icon_minitimeSat Jun 21, 2008 12:56 am

im not celebrating it why should i? it hapend 150 years ago.
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PostSubject: Re: Juneteenth   Juneteenth Icon_minitimeSat Jun 21, 2008 1:00 am

are you fucking kidding me?
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PostSubject: Re: Juneteenth   Juneteenth Icon_minitimeSat Jun 21, 2008 1:03 am

And its still being celebrated, what does that tell you?
(to pankake)


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PostSubject: Re: Juneteenth   Juneteenth Icon_minitimeSat Jun 21, 2008 1:03 am

dud. its like when pepol celibrate there bday. wtf? or july 4th. wtf? okay it hapend a long time ago wel celebrate it a long time ago not now.
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PostSubject: Re: Juneteenth   Juneteenth Icon_minitimeSat Jun 21, 2008 1:05 am

Watermelon wrote:
dud. its like when pepol celibrate there bday. wtf? or july 4th. wtf? okay it hapend a long time ago wel celebrate it a long time ago not now.

That made no sense.
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PostSubject: Re: Juneteenth   Juneteenth Icon_minitimeSat Jun 21, 2008 1:06 am

wel anyway congrats on reaching 500 posts okay today is june 20 lets celebrate this every year okay?
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PostSubject: Re: Juneteenth   Juneteenth Icon_minitimeSat Jun 21, 2008 1:15 am

EDIT by Jeiro: I HAVE SINGLE-HANDEDLY REMOVED SHABAZZ' PASSIONATE EMOTION BECAUSE I LOVE FORCING VICTIMS OF OFFENSIVE STATEMENTS TO JUST SIT THERE AND TAKE IT


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PostSubject: Re: Juneteenth   Juneteenth Icon_minitimeSat Jun 21, 2008 1:25 am

Shabazz Freeman wrote:
YOU JUST COMPARED AN INTERNET POST COUNT TO THE ABOLITION OF SLAVERY!

if i wasn't afraid of getting banned...

Calm down, I think he did that without realizing it.
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PostSubject: Re: Juneteenth   Juneteenth Icon_minitimeSat Jun 21, 2008 1:26 am

dud. "if i wsent afeared of bannings" you say that every time. chilax dud plus whats so bad about comparing it- there both an event and im talking about celebrating it
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PostSubject: Re: Juneteenth   Juneteenth Icon_minitimeSat Jun 21, 2008 1:27 am

EDIT: I STILL HATE IT WHEN SHABAZZ EXPRESSES LEGIT EMOTION AGAINST OFFENSIVE STATEMENTS


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PostSubject: Re: Juneteenth   Juneteenth Icon_minitimeSat Jun 21, 2008 1:29 am

hey dont get mad at me get mad at my material conditions.
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PostSubject: Re: Juneteenth   Juneteenth Icon_minitimeSat Jun 21, 2008 1:35 am

Watermelon wrote:
dud. "if i wsent afeared of bannings" you say that every time. chilax dud plus whats so bad about comparing it- there both an event and im talking about celebrating it

Well, there's a BIG difference between the two.
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PostSubject: Re: Juneteenth   Juneteenth Icon_minitimeSat Jun 21, 2008 1:39 am

So according to relt

the thousands of freed slaves fighting alongside the union army to smash chattel slavery is an event to be forgotten because materialism as he understands it suggests that that event is no more important than an internet post count on a site full of studying revolutionary youth...

PRAISE HIM!
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PostSubject: Re: Juneteenth   Juneteenth Icon_minitimeSat Jun 21, 2008 1:39 am

so? theres a big diference betuine dinesars and birds but theyre related. birds are decended from dinesars. some of them have the same kind of hip. soo im right.
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PostSubject: Re: Juneteenth   Juneteenth Icon_minitimeSat Jun 21, 2008 1:46 am

CAN'T YOU SEE?

the dinosaurs are the stupid blacks that think slavery is bad and the birds are us on the site with higher than 500 posts because we evolved from them cause we don't like slavery either!?

therefore the birds are equal to the dinosaurs!?!?!?

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PostSubject: Re: Juneteenth   Juneteenth Icon_minitimeSat Jun 21, 2008 2:04 am

i was responding to him dumass i sisnt say to forget it just why would i celebrate it? celebrating doesnt do anything.
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PostSubject: Re: Juneteenth   Juneteenth Icon_minitimeSat Jun 21, 2008 2:16 am

Watermelon wrote:
i was responding to him dumass i sisnt say to forget it just why would i celebrate it? celebrating doesnt do anything.

celebrating it honors those that fought for it while taking tome to come together and discuss what still needs to be done.

It is a chance for cadre and youth to come together and discuss the best path forward. A chance to learn about history and relate it to the present. A chance to inform those who do not know about it and ensure that they are not forgotten.
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PostSubject: Re: Juneteenth   Juneteenth Icon_minitimeSat Jun 21, 2008 7:25 pm

okay... damn your nicer to the nazi than me.

hey im not being racest lets get this sraight before you blo things tooo out of perportion. my best friend is black. wel actualy i have 3 best friends. one is black one is white one is indian.

i am hapy the slaves got freed. great. i just dont want to celebrate it because i dont see any reason too. they got freed. great im happy their free. i just dont want to selibrate thats. all. if you want to selibrate fine im not stopping you.
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PostSubject: Re: Juneteenth   Juneteenth Icon_minitimeSat Jun 21, 2008 9:13 pm

Sigh. Time to delete some posts. *shakes head*

Look you two giuse, Watermelon and Freeman. By the time you read this, all your posts with language in them will be deleted. Anyway, you two guys need to set your priorities straight.

Watermelon, I appreciate your constraint in the matter. Freeman, I'm a little disappointed in you. For reasons that are obvious. You wanna break the rules, please move your rantings in Spamistan.

Thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: Juneteenth   Juneteenth Icon_minitimeSat Jun 21, 2008 9:23 pm

Shabazz Freeman wrote:
wage-slavery does exist but chattel slavery has been smashed

they are not equal forms of exploitation and to put them on the same level is insensitive in my opinion.

Not to say that wage-slavery isn't a terrible form of exploitation, i just feel funny equating them...

I was in no way trying to equate the two. Obviously the wage-slavery is not even close to the horrors of chattel slavery, but i just can't see myself truly happy until it all ends.

That said, it doesn't really matter to me how oppressive a system is. It matters to me that it is oppressive. Replacing one form of oppression for another is hardly a victory, but a large step towards victory.

Again, i'm sorry if i offended anyone with my first post, but i was not trying to compare wage-slavery to chattel slavery.
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PostSubject: Re: Juneteenth   Juneteenth Icon_minitimeSun Jun 22, 2008 4:17 am

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
Sigh. Time to delete some posts. *shakes head*

Look you two giuse, Watermelon and Freeman. By the time you read this, all your posts with language in them will be deleted. Anyway, you two guys need to set your priorities straight.

Watermelon, I appreciate your constraint in the matter. Freeman, I'm a little disappointed in you. For reasons that are obvious. You wanna break the rules, please move your rantings in Spamistan.

Thank you.

forgive me for finding ignorance intolerable
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PostSubject: Re: Juneteenth   Juneteenth Icon_minitimeSun Jun 22, 2008 10:19 pm

^^ I'm pretty sure it was agreed in the thread about the rules of this site that a censor on foul language is too repressive. They're just words, and i think we should let them be. I gotta say, i'm with shabazz on this one.
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