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Cyprian Uljanow
World Republic Party Member
Age : 29
Joined : 25 Mar 2008
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Location : Wroclaw
 |  Subject: mattabesta  Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:25 pm | |
| | For constant Spaming, immunity to explanation/logic/reason and blind ranting |
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Black_Cross
Experienced Party Member
Age : 20
Joined : 04 Apr 2008
Posts : 904
Location : Land of the free, but not me
| | Subject: Re: mattabesta Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:42 pm | |
| I voted one week ban, maybe give him some time to actually come up with intelligent arguments so he doesn't have to spam the hell outta every forum and utterly halt and ruin intelligent, interesting thread conversations.
You refraining from voting Cyprian?
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Cyprian Uljanow
World Republic Party Member
Age : 29
Joined : 25 Mar 2008
Posts : 658
Location : Wroclaw
| | Subject: Re: mattabesta Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:10 pm | |
| | I'll vote when it won't be blant obvious which option I voted |
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Black_Cross
Experienced Party Member
Age : 20
Joined : 04 Apr 2008
Posts : 904
Location : Land of the free, but not me
| | Subject: Re: mattabesta Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:26 pm | |
| Who cares? What're you afraid he'll put you on trial? I'll back you up.
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Cyprian Uljanow
World Republic Party Member
Age : 29
Joined : 25 Mar 2008
Posts : 658
Location : Wroclaw
| | Subject: Re: mattabesta Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:20 pm | |
| | I would laugh really hard at a trial like that - for the most bit that he has absolutely nothing to throw against me - and just to avoid the sheer selfrigethousness - its like a fly that soars around you and won't go away. |
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mattabesta
ZEK in siberian gulag
Age : 17
Joined : 23 Dec 2007
Posts : 3237
Location : Iceland
| | Subject: Re: mattabesta Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:41 pm | |
| | NoJustice.NoPeace wrote: | I voted one week ban, maybe give him some time to actually come up with intelligent arguments so he doesn't have to spam the hell outta every forum and utterly halt and ruin intelligent, interesting thread conversations.
You refraining from voting Cyprian? |
fuck man, intelligetn arguments???
get me 10 unintelligent arguments I have made |
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Cyprian Uljanow
World Republic Party Member
Age : 29
Joined : 25 Mar 2008
Posts : 658
Location : Wroclaw
| | Subject: Re: mattabesta Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:55 pm | |
| | mattabesta wrote: | | MarxistFreeman wrote: | | mattabesta wrote: | | mononokifool wrote: | | I believe in reform while waiting for the revolution. We must help the workers as much as we can. once we have the majority then we can smash the capitalist state. |
but if you have a majoraty it isn't a free market state, btw why do you say capitalist?? |
I lose respect for you the more you show your lack of knowledge about communism but continue to be passionate against it...
the state exists to enforce the bourgeoisie's rule
the state=armed forces of men that exist to deal with class antagonisms in society
Capitalist state exists for the repression of the working class by the capitalist class
Workers state exists for the repression of the capitalists(exploiters of labor) by the workers |
oh sorry I just didn't notice becuse i was opressing a worker sorry what did you say? |
| mattabesta wrote: | | Cyprian Uljanow wrote: | Gulag material
Nuff said |
becuse he turned china into a communist paradise? |
| mattabesta wrote: | | Pannekoek wrote: | | Yes, please get the fuck out. |
I be here longer you get out |
That's two so far and it only took me exactly 2.45 minutes
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mattabesta
ZEK in siberian gulag
Age : 17
Joined : 23 Dec 2007
Posts : 3237
Location : Iceland
| | Subject: Re: mattabesta Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:56 pm | |
| | Cyprian Uljanow wrote: | | mattabesta wrote: | | MarxistFreeman wrote: | | mattabesta wrote: | | mononokifool wrote: | | I believe in reform while waiting for the revolution. We must help the workers as much as we can. once we have the majority then we can smash the capitalist state. |
but if you have a majoraty it isn't a free market state, btw why do you say capitalist?? |
I lose respect for you the more you show your lack of knowledge about communism but continue to be passionate against it...
the state exists to enforce the bourgeoisie's rule
the state=armed forces of men that exist to deal with class antagonisms in society
Capitalist state exists for the repression of the working class by the capitalist class
Workers state exists for the repression of the capitalists(exploiters of labor) by the workers |
oh sorry I just didn't notice becuse i was opressing a worker sorry what did you say? |
| mattabesta wrote: | | Cyprian Uljanow wrote: | Gulag material
Nuff said |
becuse he turned china into a communist paradise? |
That's two so far and it only took me exactly 2.45 minutes |
wow do pepole not know kokes nor sarcasm around here??? |
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Cyprian Uljanow
World Republic Party Member
Age : 29
Joined : 25 Mar 2008
Posts : 658
Location : Wroclaw
| | Subject: Re: mattabesta Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:59 pm | |
| | mattabesta wrote: |
HAHAHAHAHAHA |
No |
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mattabesta
ZEK in siberian gulag
Age : 17
Joined : 23 Dec 2007
Posts : 3237
Location : Iceland
| | Subject: Re: mattabesta Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:00 am | |
| | Cyprian Uljanow wrote: | | mattabesta wrote: |
HAHAHAHAHAHA |
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again that was sarcasm.
0 so far |
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Cyprian Uljanow
World Republic Party Member
Age : 29
Joined : 25 Mar 2008
Posts : 658
Location : Wroclaw
| | Subject: Re: mattabesta Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:01 am | |
| | So everything you ever post is Sarcasm? |
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Black_Cross
Experienced Party Member
Age : 20
Joined : 04 Apr 2008
Posts : 904
Location : Land of the free, but not me
| | Subject: Re: mattabesta Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:15 am | |
| | mattabesta wrote: | | NoJustice.NoPeace wrote: | I voted one week ban, maybe give him some time to actually come up with intelligent arguments so he doesn't have to spam the hell outta every forum and utterly halt and ruin intelligent, interesting thread conversations.
You refraining from voting Cyprian? |
fuck man, intelligetn arguments???
get me 10 unintelligent arguments I have made |
With great pleasure.
1)| mattabesta wrote: | lol he was valdimir???
that's my familyes most used name I have like 5 relitives named valdimir. |
Then, in response to me, saying you mispelled it, you wrote...
| Quote: | | it was spelled correctly, read mi post. |
2) Pannekoek wrote:
Did you use capitalist and rights in the same sentence? Bloodsuckers deserve no rights. Kidding. They shouldn't be treated bad in socialism but they should be forced to be workers by the economic system of to each according to his contribution.
You responded:
but we could try to vote you out of office and obolish the workeres state, right?
3) Pannekoek wrote:
But profit aka surplus value is derived from not paying the workers the full value of their labor. Thus exploitation is necessary. You seem to be thinking of it in terms of pie slices, which is irrelevant. Exploitation is caused by not paying the full value of the labor power.
You responded:
yup and then the owner gets more money than the workers wich is right becuse he built the factory and he has worked to pay for it.
this creaates a pyramid but, becuse the rich man is so rich he fules cunsumption creating revenue for othere workeres, so infact he is not just paying his own workers salary but othere rich pepoles too.
4)| mattabesta wrote: | | becuse he turned china into a communist paradise? |
^^What you said about Mao
5)| Quote: | | ancrists don't belong to right nor left! |
6) Pannekoek wrote:
Since when is zealot an expert on communism?
You responded:
since he was one.
I'm about to get the boot, so i'll finish later.
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Renegade_Kautsky
Worker of the World Republic
Joined : 16 Feb 2008
Posts : 350
Location : In the belly of the beast
| | Subject: Re: mattabesta Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:09 am | |
| This is madness!
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Liche
Chairman of the WR Committee
Age : 15
Joined : 29 Jan 2008
Posts : 1535
Location : USA-Virginia
| | Subject: Re: mattabesta Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:39 am | |
| | I voted innocent, matts been better lately. |
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mattabesta
ZEK in siberian gulag
Age : 17
Joined : 23 Dec 2007
Posts : 3237
Location : Iceland
| | Subject: Re: mattabesta Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:07 am | |
| | NoJustice.NoPeace wrote: | | mattabesta wrote: | | NoJustice.NoPeace wrote: | I voted one week ban, maybe give him some time to actually come up with intelligent arguments so he doesn't have to spam the hell outta every forum and utterly halt and ruin intelligent, interesting thread conversations.
You refraining from voting Cyprian? |
fuck man, intelligetn arguments???
get me 10 unintelligent arguments I have made |
With great pleasure.
1)| mattabesta wrote: | lol he was valdimir???
that's my familyes most used name I have like 5 relitives named valdimir. |
Then, in response to me, saying you mispelled it, you wrote...
| Quote: | | it was spelled correctly, read mi post. |
2) Pannekoek wrote:
Did you use capitalist and rights in the same sentence? Bloodsuckers deserve no rights. Kidding. They shouldn't be treated bad in socialism but they should be forced to be workers by the economic system of to each according to his contribution.
You responded:
but we could try to vote you out of office and obolish the workeres state, right?
3) Pannekoek wrote:
But profit aka surplus value is derived from not paying the workers the full value of their labor. Thus exploitation is necessary. You seem to be thinking of it in terms of pie slices, which is irrelevant. Exploitation is caused by not paying the full value of the labor power.
You responded:
yup and then the owner gets more money than the workers wich is right becuse he built the factory and he has worked to pay for it.
this creaates a pyramid but, becuse the rich man is so rich he fules cunsumption creating revenue for othere workeres, so infact he is not just paying his own workers salary but othere rich pepoles too.
4)| mattabesta wrote: | | becuse he turned china into a communist paradise? |
^^What you said about Mao
5)| Quote: | | ancrists don't belong to right nor left! |
6) Pannekoek wrote:
Since when is zealot an expert on communism?
You responded:
since he was one.
I'm about to get the boot, so i'll finish later. |
wtf??
it's just me disagreeing with communist ideolagy. |
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Black_Cross
Experienced Party Member
Age : 20
Joined : 04 Apr 2008
Posts : 904
Location : Land of the free, but not me
| | Subject: Re: mattabesta Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:01 am | |
| Maybe number three was (though not well) but what's your excuse for the rest?
Ya, this is all gettin pretty out of hand. If a topic is to come into this forum section, it should have to be approved by an admin, penalties included (especially since mattabesta is now on trial in two threads at once, haha. Double Jeopordy!!)
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| | Subject: Re: mattabesta Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:04 am | |
| | NoJustice.NoPeace wrote: | Maybe number three was (though not well) but what's your excuse for the rest?
Ya, this is all gettin pretty out of hand. If a topic is to come into this forum section, it should have to be approved by an admin, penalties included (especially since mattabesta is now on trial in two threads at once, haha. Double Jeopordy!!) |
i was thinking that as well but goddammit i don't like this guy |
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Cyprian Uljanow
World Republic Party Member
Age : 29
Joined : 25 Mar 2008
Posts : 658
Location : Wroclaw
| | Subject: Re: mattabesta Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:33 pm | |
| Environmentalist did those 2 topics after me 
and No Matt you disagree with the Communism you dreamed up for your sugarcoated-land to be the baies of the world, every link that abolished your view of communism, every argument and every word, was left to go on with silence from you - and you just go to another topic to yapper more and louder about it, pretending you never wore proved wrong - thats what this trial is for. |
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mattabesta
ZEK in siberian gulag
Age : 17
Joined : 23 Dec 2007
Posts : 3237
Location : Iceland
| | Subject: Re: mattabesta Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:39 pm | |
| | NoJustice.NoPeace wrote: | Maybe number three was (though not well) but what's your excuse for the rest?
Ya, this is all gettin pretty out of hand. If a topic is to come into this forum section, it should have to be approved by an admin, penalties included (especially since mattabesta is now on trial in two threads at once, haha. Double Jeopordy!!) |
the otheres would be sarcasm... |
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Black_Cross
Experienced Party Member
Age : 20
Joined : 04 Apr 2008
Posts : 904
Location : Land of the free, but not me
| | Subject: Re: mattabesta Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:08 pm | |
| | mattabesta wrote: | | the otheres would be sarcasm... |
Then stop spamming and start contributing to this site. This site isn't a joke, people actually come here to debate theory, politics, etc. And if you don't want to say something that will contribute to forwarding a debate intellectually, don't say anything at all. If we want sarcasm, we'll ask for it... Or put it in the spam forum.
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