Libertarian/Capitalist group

nillerz · Subject: Re: Libertarian/Capitalist group Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:34 am

what? how? You can't just say something like that and not say why.

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calinis · Subject: Re: Libertarian/Capitalist group Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:36 am

because you want to legalize everything

**WeiWuWei** · Subject: Re: Libertarian/Capitalist group Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:44 am

nillerz wrote:

Either will be great... libertarianism implies capitalism.

Also, "Liberal Republican" is an oxymoron.

See, the thing about that is that Libertarianism - and I'm using the term in the context which it used to have - doesn't really imply any economic meaning at all. Libertarianism used to be, purely, Anarchism - hence the phrase Libertarian Socialist. afro

Also, I wouldn't say that Liberal Republicanism is oxymoronic. It just implies a republican style of government (like this one) with a liberal - in the classical sense of the term - approach to economics (like this one).

Plus, there used to be a Liberal Republican Party.

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nillerz · Subject: Re: Libertarian/Capitalist group Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:01 am

Modern libertarians don't support lawlessness they just support lack of government intervention where it's not needed.

Murder will still be illegal.
Rape will still be illegal (pity...)
Stealing will still be illegal.
Vandalism will still be illegal.

Anyone who thinks that libertarianism is lawlessness doesn't really understand what it is.

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**Liche** · Subject: Re: Libertarian/Capitalist group Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:02 am

modern libertarians: STOLE THERE NAME

nillerz · Subject: Re: Libertarian/Capitalist group Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:46 am

meh.

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Liche wrote:

modern libertarians: STOLE THERE NAME

Exactly. Seriously, the laissez-faire right seems to be fairly unoriginal. They stole 'libertarianism' from the anarchists, and even 'anarchism' ('anarcho'-capitalism).

**Pedrodesa** · Subject: Re: Libertarian/Capitalist group Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:05 pm

im against of capitalism BUT im undecided, in one side we have the right of expression in other side I have my own ideas about the capitalism or better, im AGAINST capitalism, half of me want to agree, part of me want to desagree, so, convice me and i will think about it.
=D

nillerz · Subject: Re: Libertarian/Capitalist group Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:05 am

*their

Doesn't really matter it's not like it was a vicious assault on the anarchs or something. It's sorta like how the Democrats and Republicans used to be Democratic Republicans.

You're getting sidetracked. Who cares where the name came from?

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**Liche** · Subject: Re: Libertarian/Capitalist group Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:23 am

I do.

But I also agree there should be a new rightist group.

nillerz · Subject: Re: Libertarian/Capitalist group Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:38 pm

Why don't we just call it the "capitalist" group? Does that solve all problems?

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**Liche** · Subject: Re: Libertarian/Capitalist group Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:58 pm

nillerz wrote:

Why don't we just call it the "capitalist" group? Does that solve all problems?

Because, assumingly, a capitalist could join one of the groups we all ready have. There could be maybe a capitalist erghm whats it called? guild?

**Zeronos** · Subject: Re: Libertarian/Capitalist group Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:42 am

nillerz wrote:

Ah, okay. The right wingers are sorely underrepresented. I mean, you have social democrats and liberal democrats, but the definition of "democrat" is pretty much "liberal" and "liberal" is pretty much the same as "social" so what gives there?

Social democrats=/=Democrats, Nillerz. Social democrats favor a light form of socialism, and are not associated with the Democratic Party. Think Labour Party.

**Zealot_Kommunizma** · Subject: Re: Libertarian/Capitalist group Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:24 am

There are lots of right wing parties here:

Liberal Democrats, Liberal Republicans, Conservative Republicans, Authoritarian Right, what else do you want?

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'Libertarians' could just join 'authoritarian right'.

**Zealot_Kommunizma** · Subject: Re: Libertarian/Capitalist group Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:48 am

Stos wrote:

'Libertarians' could just join 'authoritarian right'.

Let them think they're not authoritarian.

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nillerz · Subject: Re: Libertarian/Capitalist group Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:55 am

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

There are lots of right wing parties here:

Liberal Democrats, Liberal Republicans, Conservative Republicans, Authoritarian Right, what else do you want?

those are all not anything even remotely similar to anything like anything.

Liberal democrats are NOT right wing, at all
Liberal republican is an oxymoron
Conservative republicans are bible-thumping idiots, anti gay rights, anti abortion, anti "not christian"
Authoritarian right implies authoritarianism, and I'mnot an authoritarian

See the problem? It's not like my views are particularly far off or anything.

Also, the poll currently shows 7 for, 3 against, 1 other. Isn't that enough to get it?

I'll be fine with "Classical republican".

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**Zealot_Kommunizma** · Subject: Re: Libertarian/Capitalist group Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:12 am

nillerz wrote:

those are all not anything even remotely similar to anything like anything.

Liberal democrats are NOT right wing, at all

According to the surrealistic USA's political scheme, which according to an objective political scheme just includes right wing options, ie Democrats are right wing, just more moderate.

nillerz wrote:

Liberal republican is an oxymoron

Meaning that "republicanism" stands for conservatism? Not according to ethymology, though.

nillerz wrote:

Conservative republicans are bible-thumping idiots, anti gay rights, anti abortion, anti "not christian"

Which makes them part of the moderately authoritarian right.

nillerz wrote:

Authoritarian right implies authoritarianism, and I'mnot an authoritarian

Basically all right wing except the oxymoronic "anarcho"-capitalists are authoritarian.

nillerz wrote:

See the problem? It's not like my views are particularly far off or anything.

Could be.

nillerz wrote:

Also, the poll currently shows 7 for, 3 against, 1 other. Isn't that enough to get it?

No arguements backing up those votes though.

nillerz wrote:

I'll be fine with "Classical republican".

Define "Classical Republican".

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**Liche** · Subject: Re: Libertarian/Capitalist group Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:50 pm

Liberal republican is how republicans first where.

**Zeronos** · Subject: Re: Libertarian/Capitalist group Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:19 pm

nillerz wrote:

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

There are lots of right wing parties here:

Liberal Democrats, Liberal Republicans, Conservative Republicans, Authoritarian Right, what else do you want?

those are all not anything even remotely similar to anything like anything.

Liberal democrats are NOT right wing, at all

Ah, we'll let you go on thinking that.