When will I get full access?

calinis · Subject: When will I get full access? Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:50 am

I want full access now. Why do I STILL not have full access despite me being an active member and contributing?

(I know I have already made a similar topic, but it is in the spam section, so I do not think anyone is taking it seriously, and the conversation switched)

**CoolKidX** · Subject: Re: When will I get full access? Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:13 pm

I think you can have full acsess again, i think you "Changed"
lol

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**enviro** · Subject: Re: When will I get full access? Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:05 pm

nope go one more week and ill be on your side

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**Zealot_Kommunizma** · Subject: Re: When will I get full access? Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:01 pm

Your contributions are abundant but proportionally lacking in quality.

**Black_Cross** · Subject: Re: When will I get full access? Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:16 pm

calinis wrote:

I want full access now. Why do I STILL not have full access despite me being an active member and contributing?

This had better be a fucking joke. I don't think those who condone mass murder should have any access to this site. If you wanna feel at home, go to stormfront where your views will be accepted for what they are.

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**enviro** · Subject: Re: When will I get full access? Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:17 pm

ummm what is stormfornt??

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calinis · Subject: Re: When will I get full access? Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:29 pm

Zealot:

I can say the same with you.

Anarchist.Dagger

Zealot supports the mass-murder of all supporters of capitalism. Why is that okay?

**Zealot_Kommunizma** · Subject: Re: When will I get full access? Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:38 pm

calinis wrote:

Zealot:

I can say the same with you.

Except you got nothing to back your statement up, while I got tons of evidence.

calinis wrote:

Anarchist.Dagger

Zealot supports the mass-murder of all supporters of capitalism. Why is that okay?

Convenient to take things out of context right? After all that's mostly the only way you can make your arguements to appear at least moderately valid.

calinis · Subject: Re: When will I get full access? Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:46 pm

You still didn't answer me as to how knowledge about communism makes people less selfish confused

You still didn't explain how there are people who aren't immoral under capitalism.

You still didn't explain how saying "ALL JEWS ARE RICH CAPITALIST BASTARDS!!" is any different than saying "ALL BLACKS ARE IMMORAL SCUM"

You still didn't explain how lack of freedom is benefical and how the government knows what people need, and using this as the basis of producing exactly what they need, instead of giving them minimum.

You didn't explain how not everyone is utopian.

And yes you did say you would kill all capitalists.

**CoolKidX** · Subject: Re: When will I get full access? Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:26 pm

Not chosing sides but yea Zealut u didnt anwser the qeustion why mass-killing all capatalists is okay.

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**revolution** · Subject: Re: When will I get full access? Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:45 pm

enviro wrote:

ummm what is stormfornt??

SIEG HEIL! That's about it. It's where calinis lives.

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**Zealot_Kommunizma** · Subject: Re: When will I get full access? Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:02 pm

CoolKidX wrote:

Not chosing sides but yea Zealut u didnt anwser the qeustion why mass-killing all capatalists is okay.

I did but evidently calinis is not the onlyone uneager to read.

calinis wrote:

You still didn't explain how saying "ALL JEWS ARE RICH CAPITALIST BASTARDS!!" is any different than saying "ALL BLACKS ARE IMMORAL SCUM"

1. Judaism is not a race nor an ethnicity, is a religion and can be called a culture. Being black is an ethnic trait, racial if you want. 1st difference.
2. Most Jews around the world according to world economic standards can be called "rich" since most of them enjoy far higher life standards and acquisitive capabilities than most of the world population, this is statistically verifiable. Else, this is an economic trait, not a moral one. It as well doesn't target the individual qualities of the subject. Calling someone "immoral" on the other hand targets the subject's personal qualities and is a moral trait. Else, immorality is a much more subjective term than "rich" and in many cases it's entirely contextual. People in African tribes, isolated from Western or Eastern cultures have their own concept of morality. Making it impossible to objectively accuse all blacks of being immoral. It can also be noted that the ammount of black peolpe is much larger than that of jews and so exists in more diverse contexts. 2nd difference.
3. Capitalist is a term refering to either the ideology and/or the means through which the subject acquires income. In some way, in order to have a personal efficient economy we're all forced to adopt some sort of capitalism since we have to create a personal capital. But lets leave that aside. Many jews, the broad majourity of the pre-Israel jews were capitalists and nowadays a great ammount still is. That's as well verifiable by data. Scum, in the other hand is defined as comething "useless", "worthless". Referring to a person it's a very pejorative term which tries denoting that the person is worthless. In that context it's subjective but objectively pejorative. For being subjective, it can't be objectively assesed unless the relative postures are taken into account. For example: Objectively, Black people are scum for KKK. 3rd difference.
4. Bastard is not necesarily a pejorative term, and it greatly relies on the context. It can denote that the subject is evil, ruthless, oppressive, sadic, cynical. It can denote that the subject is, in other words, perpetrator of suffering to others. In this context, if one argues that capitalists usually make suffer their workers, and/or that capitalists are a cause of many sufferings, then, from that perspective capitalists are bastards. That's a socialist perspective you don't have to agree with and which you can't use to accuse its proponent of "insulting" or attacking since it's a point of view. Just as you think Communists are bastards for opposing your concept of freedom, we communists can argue you're a bastard because you oppose our concept of freedom. Now, this is a context. There is another possible context in which bastard can denote either possitive or negative envy, like when you say "Lucky bastard". 4th difference.
Does it clear enough the differences to you? Have you read this? If you don't answer positively to the previous question or it is noticeable that you lied by possitively answering it, I won't consider favourable positions towards granting you full or broader access to the site since I will be unable to take them seriously.

calinis wrote:

You still didn't explain how lack of freedom is benefical

Because I never argued it was.
Your concept of freedom and mine differ, simply as that.

calinis wrote:

and how the government knows what people need,

I did but you don't mind to read.

calinis wrote:

and using this as the basis of producing exactly what they need, instead of giving them minimum.

Once again, I did explain but you didn't mind to read. And people that are interested on this can prove it by themselves.

calinis wrote:

You didn't explain how not everyone is utopian.

Because I never argued that.

calinis wrote:

And yes you did say you would kill all capitalists.

It dpends on what you define as capitalist. But well, as usual, you take the phrase out of context to favour your position.

I said I'd kill any capitalist that opposed the system by actions. That is capitalists who by their ideology disagree with the system and decide to sabotage it by force.

I would do nothing to capitalists that were eager to work within the socialist framework even when disagreeing with it.

**CoolKidX** · Subject: Re: When will I get full access? Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:05 pm

Jews are a race, AND a relgeon you can only be a jew if your mother is one, you can't join it like that.

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**Jeiro Sijakeuigwan** · Subject: Re: When will I get full access? Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:14 pm

CoolKidX wrote:

Jews are a race, AND a relgeon you can only be a jew if your mother is one, you can't join it like that.

Uhmm, Cool. Zealot USED to be a Zionist fascist. He admitted it. I shall leave it at that since he understands what he is talking about. I know how he feels.

But yeah...I think Judism is the only religion which can sorta be "passed down" by blood.

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**Zealot_Kommunizma** · Subject: Re: When will I get full access? Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:15 pm

CoolKidX wrote:

Jews are a race, AND a relgeon you can only be a jew if your mother is one, you can't join it like that.

No, Jews are not a race. Why don't you read CoolKid? Jews are composed mainly of semitic, slavic and germanic roots. In the case of Virobizhan, there are also korean and chinese blooded jews and in the case of Ethiopia, black jews.
Judaism is a religion and a culture. That in order to be Jew your mother has to be jewish is both a cultural rule and a proof that Judaism is not a race.

Jeiro wrote:

But yeah...I think Judism is the only religion which can sorta be "passed down" by blood.

That's a misconception created by the great Jewish isolationism.

**CoolKidX** · Subject: Re: When will I get full access? Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:16 pm

Oh right

Srry i was to lazy to read evrything.
But still you cannot join Judaism right?

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**Zealot_Kommunizma** · Subject: Re: When will I get full access? Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:21 pm

CoolKidX wrote:

Oh right

Srry i was to lazy to read evrything.
But still you cannot join Judaism right?

My mother is Jewish my father Catholic, my mother's mother was a converse Jewish (previously catholic) and her father was Jewish.

I'm officially jewish since at my Bar Mitzvah I got a certificate, certifying that I made my Bar Mitzvah and I'm Jewish. Yet, I don't practice the religion and I'm half semitic and half slavic.

**Jeiro Sijakeuigwan** · Subject: Re: When will I get full access? Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:28 pm

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

That's a misconception created by the great Jewish isolationism.

Oh? My apologizes comrade. And tell me, what Jewish isolationism was there?

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**Zealot_Kommunizma** · Subject: Re: When will I get full access? Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:41 pm

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:

Oh? My apologizes comrade. And tell me, what Jewish isolationism was there?

Well, by isolationism I mean that Jews often create very enclosed communities and usually oppose conversion or interreligious marriages. Very often a strongly Jewish family will reject one of its members if he or she has a non jewish partner. If they get married it's common that they'll utterely reject it. Within the Jewish community some sectors will accept conversion through marriage while others will oppose harshly.

**enviro** · Subject: Re: When will I get full access? Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:30 am

my moms orthodox nad my dads jewish, so im nether Razz

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