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RedSoviet Member of the WR Committee
Posts : 1376 Join date : 2008-07-23 Age : 32
| Subject: US War crimes Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:39 pm | |
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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4639 Join date : 2008-02-14 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: Re: US War crimes Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:34 pm | |
| U.S.S.R did some crimes to. | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts : 5413 Join date : 2007-12-06 Age : 35 Location : Mexico/Russia/Worl
| Subject: Re: US War crimes Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:51 pm | |
| - CoolKidX wrote:
- U.S.S.R did some crimes to.
So? USSR's were smaller and affected less nations and have stopped. USA's are much larger, have affected much more people and haven't stopped else they're given much less attention. On those grounds USSR's crimes, while relevant, are objectively less relevant than those of USA. Else, this thread is about USA's war crimes so their relevance is doubly confirmed.
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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
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| Subject: Re: US War crimes Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:56 pm | |
| - Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
- CoolKidX wrote:
- U.S.S.R did some crimes to.
So? USSR's were smaller and affected less nations and have stopped. USA's are much larger, jave affected much more people and haven't stopped else they're given much less attention.
On thos grounds USSR's crimes, while relevant, are objectively less relevant than those of USA. Else, this thread is about USA's war crimes so their relevance is doubly confirmed. Dude USSR is way bigger then USA, its the biggest country on earth. Or u mean bigger wars or somethin? | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts : 5413 Join date : 2007-12-06 Age : 35 Location : Mexico/Russia/Worl
| Subject: Re: US War crimes Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:02 pm | |
| - CoolKidX wrote:
Dude USSR is way bigger then USA, its the biggest country on earth. Or u mean bigger wars or somethin? We're speaking about WAR CRIMES not Territory. If you want to engage effectively in a discussion in English you better try to improve your English.. | |
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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4639 Join date : 2008-02-14 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: Re: US War crimes Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:04 pm | |
| - Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
- CoolKidX wrote:
Dude USSR is way bigger then USA, its the biggest country on earth. Or u mean bigger wars or somethin? We're speaking about WAR CRIMES not Territory.
If you want to engage effectively in a discussion in English you better try to improve your English.. No you said that USSR were smaller, how? | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts : 5413 Join date : 2007-12-06 Age : 35 Location : Mexico/Russia/Worl
| Subject: Re: US War crimes Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:06 pm | |
| - CoolKidX wrote:
No you said that USSR were smaller, how? You said "USSR did some crimes too". I replied "USSR's were smaller". In English when you add apostrophe and s at the end of a given word it implies possesion. Therefore I was refering to USSR's crimes, not to USSR. | |
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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4639 Join date : 2008-02-14 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: Re: US War crimes Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:07 pm | |
| - Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
You said "USSR did some crimes too".
I replied "USSR's were smaller".
In English when you add apostrophe and s at the end of a given word it implies possesion.
Therefore I was refering to USSR's crimes, not to USSR. Ok i get it | |
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Tyrong Kojy Member of the Supreme Council
Posts : 2142 Join date : 2008-04-11 Age : 37 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: US War crimes Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:25 pm | |
| I thought Canada was the biggest. My bad.
Anyway, we all know the US is very often poorly run by corrput individuals that want to make money. So here's an idea. DO something about it! Go snipe Bush! AND Cheyney. Things would be worse it THAT nutjob came to power. Cover your face, people, Cheyney's coming!
Seriously, how has he not died yet? America assassinated an average of every eight presidents, and Bush is the eighth, AND a shit leader. Man, do I fear for Obama.... | |
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Jeiro Sijakeuigwan Experienced Party Member
Posts : 974 Join date : 2008-02-03 Age : 33 Location : The Circle of Flow
| Subject: Re: US War crimes Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:01 am | |
| What a wonderful world... I love that song. No matter how many times I hear it, it just gets to me. I would love to show it to my class...but I'd think my reactionary school would ban it. D: | |
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RedSoviet Member of the WR Committee
Posts : 1376 Join date : 2008-07-23 Age : 32
| Subject: Re: US War crimes Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:11 am | |
| US is the bloodiest country ever | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts : 5413 Join date : 2007-12-06 Age : 35 Location : Mexico/Russia/Worl
| Subject: Re: US War crimes Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:49 am | |
| - Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
- What a wonderful world...
I love that song. No matter how many times I hear it, it just gets to me.
I would love to show it to my class...but I'd think my reactionary school would ban it. D: ? How is this linked to the topic Jeiro? | |
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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
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| Subject: Re: US War crimes Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:52 am | |
| - RedSoviet wrote:
- US is the bloodiest country ever
Or USSR they killed millions of ppl. | |
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Jeiro Sijakeuigwan Experienced Party Member
Posts : 974 Join date : 2008-02-03 Age : 33 Location : The Circle of Flow
| Subject: Re: US War crimes Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:08 am | |
| It's linked to the topic because we do live in a "wonderful world" ruled by money and profit. Society is irrelavent in this world today. Ethics? No such thing. Morals? Nope. Nice people who try to expose and recieve justice?
None. All of it is overshadowed by profit. No one helps each other anymore.
To be honest, if I was forced to stop being communist by some wacko, I would remain a traditionalist. That is the closest thing to true communism at least.
BTW, just how many innocent lives has USA killed? Oh and the count is still rising. | |
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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4639 Join date : 2008-02-14 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: Re: US War crimes Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:14 am | |
| - Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
- It's linked to the topic because we do live in a "wonderful world" ruled by money and profit. Society is irrelavent in this world today. Ethics? No such thing. Morals? Nope. Nice people who try to expose and recieve justice?
None. All of it is overshadowed by profit. No one helps each other anymore.
To be honest, if I was forced to stop being communist by some wacko, I would remain a traditionalist. That is the closest thing to true communism at least.
BTW, just how many innocent lives has USA killed? Oh and the count is still rising. Idk how many they killed u tell me. | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts : 5413 Join date : 2007-12-06 Age : 35 Location : Mexico/Russia/Worl
| Subject: Re: US War crimes Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:20 am | |
| - CoolKidX wrote:
Or USSR they killed millions of ppl. And you have to turn back again towards USSR. We're talking about War Crimes here. War Crimes. Do you know what a War Crime is? This is a thread about USA's war crimes which are larger and continuous. While USSR's are not less considerable they're given too much attention already, they've been lesser and its mention is not relevant to this discussion. And now adressing your comment. USSR existed for merely 69 years, that's right, 69 years. USA has been existing for 234 years. During its existance, USSR only engaged in One majour offensive against Poland and ONE offensive war being that war the Afghanistan War. USA since its birth has been constantly engaging in offensive wars from the conquest of the Wild West, to wars with Empires, to wars against neighbours and wars against countries that had done absolutely nothing to the USA. Since this is a thread about war crimes and you said USSR killed millions of people, I inform you that, as part of war crimes USSR didn't kill millions. It is estimated that USSR killed 1 million Afghans during the 10 years of the Afghanistan war having this war developed nonetheless during a Civil War within the country, factor that has great influence in assesing te death toll. Aside from that million that would be the bulk of USSR's war crimes, it is estimated that during the Soviet offensive against Poland tens of thousands of Poles were victims of USSR's war crimes. While not irrelevant per say, these figures are far away from the millions you claim and dicussing them is irrelevant to this discussion. For a comparison, USA is responsible for millions of deaths in both Korea and Viet Nam alone. USA is the only nation in the whole world that has ever used nuclear weapons against other costing hundreads of thousands of lives affecting tens of thousands for generations to come as part of the aftermath being besides completely unnecesary from a strategic point of view. This with full disregard for all its mainland expansionist wars and with disregard for following military adventures which have been terribly costly both in human lives and human dignity. Is this clear enough for you? It's horribly disgusting to start comparing nations to see which has more terrible war crimes as if one of both were deffendable, but for the sake of objectivity I had to do this comparison. Attach to the topic instead of trying to divert attention to the USSR.
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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4639 Join date : 2008-02-14 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: Re: US War crimes Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:22 am | |
| - Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
- CoolKidX wrote:
Or USSR they killed millions of ppl. And you have to turn back again towards USSR. We're talking about War Crimes here. War Crimes. Do you know what a War Crime is?
Your right killin over 20 million ppl isnt a war crime, its an gencide. | |
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Diogritor Experienced Party Member
Posts : 869 Join date : 2008-01-13 Age : 32 Location : USA USA USA
| Subject: Re: US War crimes Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:32 am | |
| No wammy(red x box), No wammy, No wammy, STOP! | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts : 5413 Join date : 2007-12-06 Age : 35 Location : Mexico/Russia/Worl
| Subject: Re: US War crimes Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:02 am | |
| - CoolKidX wrote:
Your right killin over 20 million ppl isnt a war crime, its an gencide. What 20 million people? What are you talking about? Are you aware this is not only an unconfirmed claim but completely irrelevant to the topic? And you didn't reply to my question. | |
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