Solipsism

Denial of the materialist existence, in itself, is not enough to be a solipsist. Possibly the most controversial feature of the solipsistic world view is the denial of the existence of other minds. We can never directly know another's mental stability. Qualia, or personal experience, is private and incorrigible. Another person's experience can be known only by analogy.


I am wondering if anyone else here has ever thought of this? I had thought about it long before I knew the name for it. I guess if anyone ever truly believed in it, they'd go on doing whatever they please. I suppose the slightest bit of doubt keeps one from going insane.

Gorbachev wrote:

Denial of the materialist existence, in itself, is not enough to be a solipsist. Possibly the most controversial feature of the solipsistic world view is the denial of the existence of other minds. We can never directly know another's mental stability. Qualia, or personal experience, is private and incorrigible. Another person's experience can be known only by analogy.

-Wikipedia

I am wondering if anyone else here has ever thought of this? I had thought about it long before I knew the name for it. I guess if anyone ever truly believed in it, they'd go on doing whatever they please. I suppose the slightest bit of doubt keeps one from going insane.

Solipsism is for pricks.

oligarch wrote:

Gorbachev wrote:

Denial of the materialist existence, in itself, is not enough to be a solipsist. Possibly the most controversial feature of the solipsistic world view is the denial of the existence of other minds. We can never directly know another's mental stability. Qualia, or personal experience, is private and incorrigible. Another person's experience can be known only by analogy.

-Wikipedia

I am wondering if anyone else here has ever thought of this? I had thought about it long before I knew the name for it. I guess if anyone ever truly believed in it, they'd go on doing whatever they please. I suppose the slightest bit of doubt keeps one from going insane.

Solipsism is for pricks.

QFT!!!!!

I guess that was as in depth a reply as anyone could expect from such deep thinkers.

Gorbachev wrote:

I guess that was as in depth a reply as anyone could expect from such deep thinkers.

Seriously though, I don't think its possible for anyone to actually be a solipsist, there are too many paradoxes involved.

Here is a fun mock interview with a solipsist.

http://www.nassauweekly.com/view_article.php?id=691

Here is my favourite part of the interview:

"Yes. For instance, from my solipsism, it follows that I can never die. This is because I can never observe my own death. And, since the universe consists entirely of my own observations, it follows that my demise could never occur."


Anyway, I am curious what paradoxes you see in solipsism?

For me, it's more of a fleeting thought that passes rather quickly, kind of like the inspiration that hangs for a few hours after watching a touching movie. So, I am not a solipsist.

Gorbachev wrote:

Here is a fun mock interview with a solipsist.

http://www.nassauweekly.com/view_article.php?id=691

Here is my favourite part of the interview:

"Yes. For instance, from my solipsism, it follows that I can never die. This is because I can never observe my own death. And, since the universe consists entirely of my own observations, it follows that my demise could never occur."


Anyway, I am curious what paradoxes you see in solipsism?

For me, it's more of a fleeting thought that passes rather quickly, kind of like the inspiration that hangs for a few hours after watching a touching movie. So, I am not a solipsist.

Haha, I've read that before and I believe it mentions one such paradox in which since everything and everyone is a figment of his imagination, including those who do not believe in solipsism(i.e. everyone else), he does does not believe in his own solipsism.

I forgot you use StumbleUpon also. It's great, eh.

Gorbachev wrote:

Denial of the materialist existence, in itself, is not enough to be a solipsist. Possibly the most controversial feature of the solipsistic world view is the denial of the existence of other minds. We can never directly know another's mental stability. Qualia, or personal experience, is private and incorrigible. Another person's experience can be known only by analogy.

-Wikipedia

I am wondering if anyone else here has ever thought of this? I had thought about it long before I knew the name for it. I guess if anyone ever truly believed in it, they'd go on doing whatever they please. I suppose the slightest bit of doubt keeps one from going insane.

I've thought that too but seems to unrealistic.

mattabesta wrote:

Gorbachev wrote:

Denial of the materialist existence, in itself, is not enough to be a solipsist. Possibly the most controversial feature of the solipsistic world view is the denial of the existence of other minds. We can never directly know another's mental stability. Qualia, or personal experience, is private and incorrigible. Another person's experience can be known only by analogy.

-Wikipedia

I am wondering if anyone else here has ever thought of this? I had thought about it long before I knew the name for it. I guess if anyone ever truly believed in it, they'd go on doing whatever they please. I suppose the slightest bit of doubt keeps one from going insane.

I've thought that too but seems to unrealistic.

Reality not existing is unrealistic indeed.

oligarch wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

Gorbachev wrote:

Denial of the materialist existence, in itself, is not enough to be a solipsist. Possibly the most controversial feature of the solipsistic world view is the denial of the existence of other minds. We can never directly know another's mental stability. Qualia, or personal experience, is private and incorrigible. Another person's experience can be known only by analogy.

-Wikipedia

I am wondering if anyone else here has ever thought of this? I had thought about it long before I knew the name for it. I guess if anyone ever truly believed in it, they'd go on doing whatever they please. I suppose the slightest bit of doubt keeps one from going insane.

I've thought that too but seems to unrealistic.

Reality not existing is unrealistic indeed.

The only part I had thought of was that only my mind existed. Indeed, something as consistent as realitiy is hard to imagine one's mind creating.

oligarch wrote:

Gorbachev wrote:

Denial of the materialist existence, in itself, is not enough to be a solipsist. Possibly the most controversial feature of the solipsistic world view is the denial of the existence of other minds. We can never directly know another's mental stability. Qualia, or personal experience, is private and incorrigible. Another person's experience can be known only by analogy.

-Wikipedia

I am wondering if anyone else here has ever thought of this? I had thought about it long before I knew the name for it. I guess if anyone ever truly believed in it, they'd go on doing whatever they please. I suppose the slightest bit of doubt keeps one from going insane.

Solipsism is for pricks.

Indeed

oligarch wrote:

Solipsism is for pricks.

lol I agree, their just Nihilist wannabes, Nihilism makes a lot more sense tho.

well you can't really know that the world isn't a big robot.

mattabesta wrote:

well you can't really know that the world isn't a big robot.

No, but by that same logic you can not disprove the theory that the earth is a flat plate supported by the back a a giant tortoise which is a part of an infinite tower of tortoises.

oligarch wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

well you can't really know that the world isn't a big robot.

No, but by that same logic you can not disprove the theory that the earth is a flat plate supported by the back a a giant tortoise which is a part of an infinite tower of tortoises.

true

mattabesta wrote:

well you can't really know that the world isn't a big robot.

You can't, but I can.

And by the way, it's only one tortoise, but scientists aren't positive that it's not a turtle or an alien being. (more bull sh!t.....) (more bull sh!t.....) (more bull sh!t.....) etc....

To think about stuff like that is a sign on intelligence and some never think about it. strange right? But to believe it is completely different lol

There's no difference between living in a vat and this world so there's no reason to waste time worrying about it.

Pannekoek wrote:

There's no difference between living in a vat and this world so there's no reason to waste time worrying about it.

Like I said to ponder on it is a sign of intelligence, yo9u dismiss stuff way to quickly and seem extreamly closed minded

That;s like debating someone wether an undetectable invisible intangible leprechaun is living on your shoulder. Straight up retarded.

Pannekoek wrote:

That;s like debating someone wether an undetectable invisible intangible leprechaun is living on your shoulder. Straight up retarded.

Its not even remotely like that, the fact you dont see the importance in your own existence and compare it to a leprechaun only furthers to show your ignorance.

What's the difference? the leprechaun is indetectable. the brainvat is too. same thing. only an ignoramus can fail to see this fact. It is not even debatable, it is a pure and simple fact.

Pannekoek wrote:

What's the difference? the leprechaun is indetectable. the brainvat is too. same thing. only an ignoramus can fail to see this fact. It is not even debatable, it is a pure and simple fact.

Maybe its just my overpowering left brain, I think very abstract, maybe you are only analytical

I tend to analyze things unbiasedly.