Who was the best leader of the Soviet Union?

Please explain why.

The one who end it.
Gorbachev

I agree. I say Gorbachev too because he encouraged economic freedom and more openess in a country that formally purged dissent.

calinis wrote:

I agree. I say Gorbachev too because he encouraged economic freedom and more openess in a country that formally purged dissent.

Tottaly!

I'm undecided but I'd say Lenin because he had a clearer idea of communism than Stalin and his succesors. However, Stalin got the best oportunity to stablish a communist system, wasting it completely, had he made use of it USSR had never collapsed.

Of course capitalists will think the moron of Gorbachyov was the best for making USSR collapse.

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

I'm undecided but I'd say Lenin because he had a clearer idea of communism than Stalin and his succesors. However, Stalin got the best oportunity to stablish a communist system, wasting it completely, had he made use of it USSR had never collapsed.

Of course capitalists will think the moron of Gorbachyov was the best for making USSR collapse.

Ofcourse Gorbachev cause he end the poor USSR , something communists don't like aparendtly.

Khruschev, for breaking up with Stalin's atrocious policies.

The Soviet union was bound to collapse. Gorbachev's reforms just speed it up.

Why couldn't Stalin just be a good leader and create a communist state? Afterall....you ignore human nature....

Btw, Lenin killed tons of people. Why is killing people justified?

Triarii wrote:

Khruschev, for breaking up with Stalin's atrocious policies.

That to but he didnt make alot of diffrence.

Wow... I didn't know Lenin was such an effective killing machine....

Killing people that behave like you in real life after having grown up is perfectly justified, they don't deserve space or resources.

"Comrades!... You must make example of these people. (1) Hang (I mean hang publicly, so that people see it) at least 100 kulaks, rich bastards, and known bloodsuckers. (2) Publish their names. (3) Seize all their grain. (4) Single out the hostages per my instructions in yesterday's telegram."

Look up "red terror"

calinis wrote:

"Comrades!... You must make example of these people. (1) Hang (I mean hang publicly, so that people see it) at least 100 kulaks, rich bastards, and known bloodsuckers. (2) Publish their names. (3) Seize all their grain. (4) Single out the hostages per my instructions in yesterday's telegram."

Look up "red terror"

Lenin didn't kill them. His followers did.

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

calinis wrote:

"Comrades!... You must make example of these people. (1) Hang (I mean hang publicly, so that people see it) at least 100 kulaks, rich bastards, and known bloodsuckers. (2) Publish their names. (3) Seize all their grain. (4) Single out the hostages per my instructions in yesterday's telegram."

Look up "red terror"

Lenin didn't kill them. His followers did.

OMG that's the same if you order you men to kill them, that a real lame excuse for Lenin not killing someone.

CoolKidX wrote:

OMG that's the same if you order you men to kill them, that a real lame excuse for Lenin not killing someone.

I'm not excusing him, he's just the intelectual author, not the perpetrator.

But he still killed ppl, but i didnt even know Lenin killed ppl.

That's like saying Hitler didn't kill people.

calinis wrote:

That's like saying Hitler didn't kill people.

Yea but he did killed ppl, in his own.
Some guy who was dating here stef-daughter , in 30's.

Are you serious? Well that's not unlike him.

CoolKidX wrote:

calinis wrote:

That's like saying Hitler didn't kill people.

Yea but he did killed ppl, in his own.
Some guy who was dating here stef-daughter , in 30's.

Yeah, Lenin died in 1924 and he came ten years after his death to kill that guy.

I thought he was talking about Hitler....

Yea i was talking about Hitler

CoolKidX wrote:

Yea i was talking about Hitler

Yeah, because Hitler was married.

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

CoolKidX wrote:

Yea i was talking about Hitler

Yeah, because Hitler was married.

He was married in his bunker in 1945 u know, couple of day before suicide.

CoolKidX wrote:

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

CoolKidX wrote:

Yea i was talking about Hitler

Yeah, because Hitler was married.

He was married in his bunker in 1945 u know, couple of day before suicide.

Yes... but you claim he had a step-daughter in the 30s.

He had , it could also be the late 20's when he killed her, but the step-daughter was there when Hitler dropped out of art coallge.
So Hitler was about 18-22 .