Marijah appears from behind!

Hello there!

I write this for you to know me better.

To my person.
I am 19, living for my love.
Living in Germany, most west point of the country.
I read a lot of books and using my pc all the time, sport just sucks

I speak ( obviously ) bad english, but my german is fluid
I can read fragments of latin and ancient greece.

Well, politics.
Let me call it realist. I dream a lot about making the world a better place, but people everywhere ( expecially on the internet ) seems to egoistic to change it fast.
The most important thing is justice. I dont believe anyone earn 10000000$ for anything. No Tiger Woods, no Bill Gates, nobody. Working in a Mine is much harder then doing your hobby, like music or sport.
The biggest problem causing this is copyright, at least from my point of view.
If you want, call me a spiritual communist - world would be a lot better if people would share and care more about thougts of others.

Back to basics, why realist? I think we need small smaaall steps, not revolution. Revolution will end in chaos, anarchy, war, destruction.

I dont thing change will happen off its own. We need to give a start kick.

To tell a direction - left, however, as far as possible, als long as no supression comes. Dont do anybody something you dont wanna done with yourself.

Marijah wrote:

not revolution. Revolution will end in chaos, anarchy, war, destruction.

I agree



Also, Welcome

i like your avatar, welcome.

welcome to the forum, and I like your political views.

Welcome Marijah!

I'm glad you decided to join the International section of teh forum. If you accept so I think many here will try helping you improve your English. Several members here speak German so I think they'll be able to help you.

So now, I'd like to make some obersvations.

Marijah wrote:

Let me call it realist. I dream a lot about making the world a better place, but people everywhere ( expecially on the internet ) seems to egoistic to change it fast.

Does it mean you'd like it to be fast?

Marijah wrote:

The most important thing is justice. I dont believe anyone earn 10000000$ for anything. No Tiger Woods, no Bill Gates, nobody. Working in a Mine is much harder then doing your hobby, like music or sport.
The biggest problem causing this is copyright, at least from my point of view.

I agree with much of this, I actually like very much the mine example I often use it. However how does copyright make music and sport be a problem? I think it's more like merchandising.

Marijah wrote:

If you want, call me a spiritual communist - world would be a lot better if people would share and care more about thougts of others.

This is good.

Marijah wrote:

Back to basics, why realist? I think we need small smaaall steps, not revolution. Revolution will end in chaos, anarchy, war, destruction.

Well Marijah, we don't have 600 years to wait. It's been already 250 years of small steps and no considerable change has been made.

Marijah wrote:

I dont thing change will happen off its own. We need to give a start kick.

And what's the start kick your propose?

Marijah wrote:

To tell a direction - left, however, as far as possible, als long as no supression comes. Dont do anybody something you dont wanna done with yourself.

Left doesn't imply repression at all. I like to use a very practical political scale which involves two axis: x and y.

X which is left and right is for the economic stance. The more you think economy should benefit society and the more collectivist you think it should be the farther left you are.

Y which is up and down is for political stance. The upper you are the more control you think should be excerted over the personal freedom of people by a central organisation the lower you are the less control you think there should be.

welcome, i live in germany too but we already readed already from each other

well i disagree with you in many points but brother zealot is the big post writer

and ADBC when he is high (not trying to go off topic)

Marijah wrote:

Back to basics, why realist? I think we need small smaaall steps, not revolution. Revolution will end in chaos, anarchy, war, destruction.

Why do you think this?

"We Socialists are not reformers; we are revolutionists. We Socialists do not propose to change forms. We care nothing for forms. We want a change of the inside of the mechanism of society, let the form take care of itself. We see in England a crowned monarch; we see in Germany a sceptered emperor; we see in this country an uncrowned president, and we fail to see the essential difference between Germany, England or America. That being the case, we are skeptics as to forms. We are like grown children, in the sense that we like to look at the inside of things and find out what is there."

That doesn't mean their can't be leftist reformist. I do agree that most socialists should be revolutionary, but it doesn't mean they are all.

you cannot reform something that is unreformable.

mononokifool wrote:

you cannot reform something that is unreformable.

Amen to that.

mononokifool wrote:

you cannot reform something that is unreformable.

Of course you can change from, say, laissez-faire to welfare capitalism, the point is that they're both shit, and welfare capitalism isn't especially sustainable either.

I agree with her on a greater extend, a Revolution usually leads to a massive blood shed, and a much bigger and violent opposition front than a reformist way, but then again I don't believe in reformist taking the cores of anotehr thousand years or whatnot. Best thing to do would be probably like Venezuela, have a Communist president elected and commence rapid and swift reforms.

Welcome to the forums, don't let some of the Communists here scare you off with unchangeable views ( much like some rightwingers), some of us are actually quite open minded here... well I know I am - but every political system has a radical, we have Redsoviet and... hm... Mono maybe, naw actually we only got RS?

And also - Rogues do it from behind.

*high five*

Cyprian Uljanow wrote:

I agree with her on a greater extend, a Revolution usually leads to a massive blood shed, and a much bigger and violent opposition front than a reformist way

I'm a De Leonist. Try again.
Though, of course violence will be necessary, unless there is no fascism and such around the world. The reformist way will lead to as much, if not more, bloodshed, since imperialism and capitalism will still exist, and they're not going anywhere.

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Best thing to do would be probably like Venezuela, have a Communist president elected and commence rapid and swift reforms.

I know what socialism is, and it's not populism. Try again.

Wow, amazing replies! I thank you all!


@zealot
Now I am really glad to joined the international section!
But dont be too convenient with my english, my teachers tried for years, ( centuries ) to improve it, but lets give it a try

"However how does copyright make music and sport be a problem? I think it's more like merchandising."
-Yeah, thats exactly what I wanted to express but merchandising sliped my mind for a second and was gone so I had to write copyright

"Well Marijah, we don't have 600 years to wait. It's been already 250 years of small steps and no considerable change has been made."
-if a mere waterdrop can cut through stone, imagine what we can do! ( if we didnt kill the earth, that is ) I am very happy to life now and not 250 years ago

"And what's the start kick your propose?"
-To show opinions, wishes, and act responsible ( to tell an example - I buy my books in a small old store, not at a huge trade chain, ignore products of the most reckless companies like nokia )

"I like to use a very practical political scale which involves two axis: x and y."
-yes, thats very helpfull, I will rember that.


@redsoviet
"well i disagree with you in many points"
-would be boring if we all think the same ^^

"but brother zealot is the big post writer"
-indeed ^^ its nice to have that much reply, but you would really kill me if you all would write so large ^^


@Stos
I think its like a scale. The majority doesnt care about or doesnt wanna change, sitting in the middle. If you flush them out to hard, they will turn against you. If you sit to heavy on your side, you will go down.

Oh and dont assume I am a 100% socialist

Think of Robespierre, revolution leads to bloodshed.
Reformists like Danton stopped earlier.



@Liche
leftist reformist, I searched for that expression ^^



@Cyprian Uljanow
Having a left president elected would be very nice, indeed.

Bleach forever <3 finally this stupid filler is over



@all thanks for the welcome once more!

Marijah wrote:

@Stos
I think its like a scale. The majority doesnt care about or doesnt wanna change, sitting in the middle. If you flush them out to hard, they will turn against you. If you sit to heavy on your side, you will go down.

Oh and dont assume I am a 100% socialist

Think of Robespierre, revolution leads to bloodshed.
Reformists like Danton stopped earlier.

Why doesn't the majority want change? How do you plan to make small reforms in fascist and single-party states?

Welcome, I love your avatar.

Doesn't mean they can't attempt a reform.

Liche wrote:

Doesn't mean they can't attempt a reform.

...And? So? What?

Just saying that he can think what he wants.

...Alright then.

May i ask if you play Deus Ex the game? That game was AWESOME.

Marijah wrote:

Wow, amazing replies! I thank you all!

You're welcome, hope you become more active

Marijah wrote:

But dont be too convenient with my english, my teachers tried for years, ( centuries ) to improve it, but lets give it a try

I guess you tried to say "Don't be too confident with my english". Don't worry, at least I'll be glad to help you improve at least a bit.

Marijah wrote:

-if a mere waterdrop can cut through stone, imagine what we can do! ( if we didnt kill the earth, that is )

You're describing the natural process of erosion which given circumstances can take centuries or even millenia. It is not comparable to social dynamics. And you just said it "if we don't kill the earth". Are you eager to let society disappear without advancing from its ridiculous situation?

Marijah wrote:

I am very happy to life now and not 250 years ago

It wouldn't make much difference if Germany wasn't the commercial empire it is and you had been born in a poor family.

Marijah wrote:

-To show opinions, wishes, and act responsible ( to tell an example - I buy my books in a small old store, not at a huge trade chain, ignore products of the most reckless companies like nokia )

If everyone acted that way you would just be converting the small old store into a huge trade chain. Imagine suddenly most people stopped buying at a large trade chain. It would get less income and would start firing workers. The preffered old store would grow and hire more people becoming a bigger and bigger trade chain. That way you're just choosing capitalists not changing systems.







Welcome once again.

Liche wrote:

Just saying that he can think what he wants.

Indeed, which doesn't mean it will work for the goal she pursues.

oooooooooh my bad lol

any ways, yes I don't think it will work either but she can try.

Willkommen in der (Sozialistischen) Weltrepublik! Es freut mich sehr so einen entschlossenen und intelligenten Menschen unter uns zu haben!

Es freut mich sehr dich kennenzulernen!