How do we apply our ideology to our reality?

it's easy to sit and wait for the revolution, but do you ever think there WON"T BE any revolution as long as we sit by idling in our labels and minor differences in ideology.

so my question to you (mostly the revolutionary leftists) is: how do we live as revolutionary socialists in this capitalist world? because i know for a fact wearing che shirts and listening to punk isn't working...

Well what can we do a revolutionary leftists? Plan different ways to raise people's awareness and make proposals on how to change the status quo. Find ways to put theory into pratice.Alone there's nothing we can do.

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How do we apply our ideology to our reality?

BY TYPING IN ALL CAPS.

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Alone there's nothing we can do.

Not necessarily. We won't individually have major impacts on revolution or what have you, but we can still agitate. I readily find myself talking to my coworkers about our conditions, whether narrow or broad. They tend to take well (my theory is that everyone has political rage inside of them, its just a matter of prodding at the right issues)

Other than this, you can get involved with an anarchist organization or collective (speaking to Alek, specifically), or any organization of the sort, like food not bombs, or a union (even if it's a rather poor union, it's a good way to get familiar with how workers' organizations may be run).

Also, there's fly posting. I wouldn't post anything related to anarchy, specifically, but rather things that actually relate to people (cos you've gotta get 'em to read it before they'll learn anything), like the recession now.

And obviously, keep studying your history, read up on the present, and always be prepared to stand up for what's right (people generally react positively when you stay true to your principles).

That's essentially what I meant BC, alone we won't have any majour impact and that is indeed important.

In my view, if you want your ideology to come reallity, it's certain you cannot do it alone. You should try first to convince all the person you know that your ideology is done, once done, tell those persons to convince others etc. A country begins with the individuals who live in it. You are an individual. It's sure there's practicly no chance for a unique person to change everything, but if your ideology is really good, people will reallize by themselves, slowly, but they will. They'll do the same, they'll try to convince people they know. Revolution goes after, when all the collectivity is setted as one, and when a large majourity really believes that this is the right solution.

Lilith wrote:

In my view, if you want your ideology to come reallity, it's certain you cannot do it alone. You should try first to convince all the person you know that your ideology is done, once done, tell those persons to convince others etc. A country begins with the individuals who live in it. You are an individual. It's sure there's practicly no chance for a unique person to change everything, but if your ideology is really good, people will reallize by themselves, slowly, but they will. They'll do the same, they'll try to convince people they know. Revolution goes after, when all the collectivity is setted as one, and when a large majourity really believes that this is the right solution.

More than convincing dear, is unveiling some truths that due to the actual systems workings are apparently not that patent.

i think that is this capitalist world(disregard me)
you have not to raise awarness, but to destroy capitalism. it is basicaly already doing it for you. recession, dollar, gas prices. you have to market your system as better for the common man. People are more likely to listen to you if things suck for them. I think with all the plants closing down, the big oils cats sucking money, this is as good a time as any

alone you cant do that, so ofcourse join orgnizations. but make sure not violent ones, you want people to love and respect you. not fear you.
violence only hurts yourself in the longrun, keep in peaceful.

Awareness is what people need to get conviction to understand and change this system.

unless its violence, that comes up later. when gathering more people to the cuase, violence ussualy cause bad press and assosiatiions

enviro wrote:

unless its violence, that comes up later. when gathering more people to the cuase, violence ussualy cause bad press and assosiatiions

This hardly made sense.

why? its true
if people see violence, they are more likely to react in negative maner. while if they see peace, the see the others(cap) as the negative ones, and pblic sympathy rises.

they explained it us in psychology, or is that capitalized 2?

(sorry for the necro, but I have some thigns that could fit in here)


I was thinking today, I should maybe stop eating at fast food chains, but that would be hard. I dont know if its even possible, even as I told myself this in the morning, I still got Subway this afternoon, the idea of not eating fast food slipped my mind. Do you think it would be worth trying at least?

Frst, you really should NEVER eat fast food, since it's REALLY bad for you. PERIOD. Not because it's capitalist. Subway's not bad though. Fresh, god. They're fine. But a few people not eating fast food wouldultimately do NOTHING.

Subway ain't bad? Hmmm... I disagree as it's hard to keep it higienic.

My place is good. I mean, I don't think they change gloves, but I'm not allergic to anyhting, so it's all good.

Tyrong Kojy wrote:

My place is good. I mean, I don't think they change gloves, but I'm not allergic to anyhting, so it's all good.

Well they sometimes mix rotten with unrotten things, as far as my Subway experience goes in USA and Mexico (when I worked in USA, Subway was my main source of food)

The health factor is of no concern too me.

Well it is, but it wouldnt cause me too stop eating it.

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Well they sometimes mix rotten with unrotten things,

Well then yours suck. Ours uses fresh. Nothing rotten.

Tyrong Kojy wrote:

Well then yours suck. Ours uses fresh. Nothing rotten.

That you know, I've seen such thing happen in USA and Mexico

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

Tyrong Kojy wrote:

Well then yours suck. Ours uses fresh. Nothing rotten.

That you know, I've seen such thing happen in USA and Mexico

It depends on the inspector. Theirs a family friend who works at a Subway in West Virginia, the health inspector their is very strict, and makes sure all the food is replaced daily.

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How do we apply our ideology to our reality?

By voting on the party with the idealogy I like.
Or by representing that party.

IF I got ze question right.

I guess you didn't get the question to its full extent CKX. It's more like how do we make your political plans become material realities and how can you live in accordance to your political convictions within your realiity.