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PostSubject: For the billionth time   For the billionth time Icon_minitimeFri Mar 06, 2009 1:15 am

Can one of the Admins please name the ANARCHO syndicalist union to Syndicalist union, so all syndicalist can graze there happily.

whos with me?
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well i think there are more anarcho syndicalists then monarcho syndicalists liche...
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but then all will be welcome.
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It was proposed by anarcho-syndicalists. You should get more syndicalists to suport you into creating a general syndicalist union.
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I dont think any one realy opposes the idea of changing its name, the only thing is, all the syndicalists other than me are anarcho-syndicalist.
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Liche wrote:
I dont think any one realy opposes the idea of changing its name, the only thing is, all the syndicalists other than me are anarcho-syndicalist.

So that's it, there's no need in changing the name unless they request it so and eventually there's no reason for which they'd want to.
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ok, but am I still welcome there?
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Liche wrote:
ok, but am I still welcome there?

Probably you, but definitely not monarcho-syndicalist ideas.
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PostSubject: Re: For the billionth time   For the billionth time Icon_minitimeSat Mar 07, 2009 2:41 am

monarcho syndicalism is basically fascism...
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to you, anything thats not Anarchy is fascism...
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PostSubject: Re: For the billionth time   For the billionth time Icon_minitimeSat Mar 07, 2009 10:36 am

Liche wrote:
to you, anything thats not Anarchy is fascism...

Now bring an arguement please, preferably one that refutes Zach's assertion.
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PostSubject: Re: For the billionth time   For the billionth time Icon_minitimeSat Mar 07, 2009 5:21 pm

dumb question, what is anarcho syndicalism. i know CNT and AIT but what does they stand for.
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PostSubject: Re: For the billionth time   For the billionth time Icon_minitimeSat Mar 07, 2009 9:53 pm

Alek4a is the current leader of the Anarcho Syndicalist Union.
I say if he proposes a name change, we will change the name.
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PostSubject: Re: For the billionth time   For the billionth time Icon_minitimeMon Mar 09, 2009 4:28 am

For overly claiming things to be fascsist. as all anarchists do.
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Liche wrote:
to you, anything thats not Anarchy is fascism...
actually no, if you have read anything about syndicalism, you would have learned looooong ago that structural syndicalism was the basis for gentile's theory of fascism.
i speak for everyone when i say im sick of your belief hopping, read something by someone of the belief you seem to preach and get some fucking political ethos.

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dumb question, what is anarcho syndicalism. i know CNT and AIT but what does they stand for.
very hard to define briefly
revolutionary syndicalism, fighting for solidarity, emancipation, workers' self management, and in large mutual aid.
labor oriented .

CNT-Confederación Nacional del Trabajo
which means the national confederation of labor

AIT-Asociación Internacional de los Trabajadores
which means international workers' association
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Liche wrote:
to you, anything thats not Anarchy is fascism...


your not really a syndicalist. you shouldn't even be in the union. as admin, im removing you...
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PostSubject: Re: For the billionth time   For the billionth time Icon_minitimeTue Mar 10, 2009 12:32 am

beatnikzach wrote:

very hard to define briefly
revolutionary syndicalism, fighting for solidarity, emancipation, workers' self management, and in large mutual aid.
labor oriented .

CNT-Confederación Nacional del Trabajo
which means the national confederation of labor

AIT-Asociación Internacional de los Trabajadores
which means international workers' association
thank you, but whats the diffrence from this and normal anarchism, or im completly lost.
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PostSubject: Re: For the billionth time   For the billionth time Icon_minitimeTue Mar 10, 2009 1:48 am

Tyrlop wrote:
beatnikzach wrote:

very hard to define briefly
revolutionary syndicalism, fighting for solidarity, emancipation, workers' self management, and in large mutual aid.
labor oriented .

CNT-Confederación Nacional del Trabajo
which means the national confederation of labor

AIT-Asociación Internacional de los Trabajadores
which means international workers' association
thank you, but whats the diffrence from this and normal anarchism, or im completly lost.

Well, the difference is that Anarcho-Syndicalists use different kinds of organizations to produce and consume goods. They prefer trade unions, whereas AnComs prefer workers' councils, and Mutualists prefer the market, and the list goes on and on.

Most of the differences in Anarchism are purely for the difference in what kind of institutions they like. That's pretty much it. That's why I'm not so keen on picking sides, because they're all pretty good to me - and pretty similar, in my view.

EDIT: I should also mention that AnSyndies are more oriented to put an emphasis on things like workers' self-management before other principles. There's a large emphasis on the labor movement with the AnSyndies, probably moreso than with any other trend of Anarchism.
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PostSubject: Re: For the billionth time   For the billionth time Icon_minitimeTue Mar 10, 2009 5:04 am

"all are equal" Sad so you kicked me out, because I am some how less equal then the rest.


and I dont know if its clear about the monarchist thing, but I was joking..
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"all are equal" Sad so you kicked me out, because I am some how less equal then the rest.

You got kicked not as a matter of unequality but as matter of your lack of Syndicalisticity. You're not syndicalist according to them so why would you be inside a syndicalist group?
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Liche wrote:
"all are equal" Sad so you kicked me out, because I am some how less equal then the rest.


and I dont know if its clear about the monarchist thing, but I was joking..

prove your a syndicalist...
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PostSubject: Re: For the billionth time   For the billionth time Icon_minitimeTue Mar 10, 2009 5:48 pm

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and I dont know if its clear about the monarchist thing, but I was joking..

I bet your just changing mind because people now think your bad.
Joking my ass, I didnt see any sarcasm or joking when you said it, and now your all of a sudden joking?
That doesn't make sense, obviously your changing becus' you got either disliked by people because you are/were/whatever a Monarchist or because you got kicked out of the group.

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I voted other, for Christian Monarchy.
HAHAHAHAHAHHA!
That is sure one funny joke!

So seriously I dont see anything joking in this, not even sarcasm no emoticons or anything, this is just a normal post.
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PostSubject: Re: For the billionth time   For the billionth time Icon_minitimeTue Mar 10, 2009 10:05 pm

You can see sarcasm over the internet? well this also coming from some one who thinks debating on youtube is the same as in real life, and why would I want a Christian monarchy when my views on Christianity are purely Orthodox, as in just what Jesus said, and no one else. Going by my beliefs, having that in the form of Monarchy is physically impossible.


also Alek, please come to my thread in Red Square.
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Liche wrote:
You can see sarcasm over the internet?

If you know someones believes or atleast know what he would not totally agree with and just says it like that it can be understood as sarcasm.
And since you you change political idealogy much I could not know if it was sarcasm.

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and why would I want a Christian monarchy when my views on Christianity are purely Orthodox, as in just what Jesus said, and no one else. Going by my beliefs, having that in the form of Monarchy is physically impossible.

Well its you, so everything is possible lol
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