Kim il-sung

I move that Kim il-sung be deported to the GULAG because he was an Orwellian Stalinist who founded People's Korea.

kim-il-sung should defiantly be put in the gulag. His beliefs were terrible and he is just an all around atrocious individual.

Agreed North Korea is the definition of the Orwellian state. Kim il-sung and his son should be thrown in one of the prison camps they created.

To him I said no. To his son I would say yes.

Diogritor wrote:

To him I said no. To his son I would say yes.

How was he any better than Kim Jong-il?

at least SOME of his food programs worked on occasion.. he wasnt much better but N.Korea isn't a very hospitable place in the first..place.

Diogritor wrote:

at least SOME of his food programs worked on occasion.. he wasnt much better but N.Korea isn't a very hospitable place in the first..place.

So having a few programs work sometimes justifies totalitarianism?

oligarch wrote:

Diogritor wrote:

at least SOME of his food programs worked on occasion.. he wasnt much better but N.Korea isn't a very hospitable place in the first..place.

So having a few programs work sometimes justifies totalitarianism?

nope. but it does make him better in my eyes then his son..thus answering your question.

Diogritor wrote:

oligarch wrote:

Diogritor wrote:

at least SOME of his food programs worked on occasion.. he wasnt much better but N.Korea isn't a very hospitable place in the first..place.

So having a few programs work sometimes justifies totalitarianism?

nope. but it does make him better in my eyes then his son..thus answering your question.

Better perhaps but he was still evil even if he was the lesser of the two.

oligarch wrote:

Diogritor wrote:

oligarch wrote:

Diogritor wrote:

at least SOME of his food programs worked on occasion.. he wasnt much better but N.Korea isn't a very hospitable place in the first..place.

So having a few programs work sometimes justifies totalitarianism?

nope. but it does make him better in my eyes then his son..thus answering your question.

Better perhaps but he was still evil even if he was the lesser of the two.

true...Then i just chose no to be different :p

oligarch wrote:

beat me to it. I was about to search for that.

YES! Kim Il-Sung should 100 percent be thrown into the Gulag. He killed thousands of political dissenters and basically anybody who spoke out again him.

Perhaps he should have unethical experimentations run on him?

And yeah, Dio's right. Some of the food rationing systems worked. But AS SOON AS he insituted Juche, everything went to shit.

And don't even get me started on his son...

Whoever is so fucked up that he can be "eternal president" even after killing so many people is worth deporting to the gulag. Amen to that, Jeiro Sijakeuigwan.

He definitely deserves to be sent to the gulag but at least he admitted he wasn't a Marxist unlike other authoritarians we know coughstalincough.

Pannekoek, if Marx is your avatar, then why in the world would you say that the fact that he admitted that he wasn't a Marxist fly with you? I think that in this way be may have truly incriminated himself in this way, as not being the Marxist-Lenninist dictator whom we can say, "Oh, he's just another cheap commie nuthead", but rather say, "He's truly evil".

Jinnyjinster wrote:

Pannekoek, if Marx is your avatar, then why in the world would you say that the fact that he admitted that he wasn't a Marxist fly with you? I think that in this way be may have truly incriminated himself in this way, as not being the Marxist-Lenninist dictator whom we can say, "Oh, he's just another cheap commie nuthead", but rather say, "He's truly evil".

I think it is more evil to him to pretend to be communist than to be a mass murderer

Jinnyjinster wrote:

Pannekoek, if Marx is your avatar, then why in the world would you say that the fact that he admitted that he wasn't a Marxist fly with you? I think that in this way be may have truly incriminated himself in this way, as not being the Marxist-Lenninist dictator whom we can say, "Oh, he's just another cheap commie nuthead", but rather say, "He's truly evil".

He was juche.

Jinnyjinster wrote:

Pannekoek, if Marx is your avatar, then why in the world would you say that the fact that he admitted that he wasn't a Marxist fly with you?

Because he's a tyrant, and Pannekoek doesn't condone that or think that his policies were Marxist. Why would he want to associate himself with that botard.

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I think that in this way be may have truly incriminated himself in this way, as not being the Marxist-Lenninist dictator whom we can say, "Oh, he's just another cheap commie nuthead", but rather say, "He's truly evil".

I'm confused... this sounds like an answer to your question.

Diogritor wrote:

To him I said no. To his son I would say yes.

Their both ronery. Arr arone on that rittier peninsuarra? They have to have rost their sanity.

I would put the smiley with buck-teeth but that would have been to far.

PS: I'm not making fun either of them I'm just quoting team americ: World Police
hahaha Cthulhu hahahaha

and the mome hath outgrabe

For people of the DPRK is Kim-Il-Sung a great hero and I blieve this. But I´m not sure if his son is a good leader. I think he gets only this high position because he is the son.

Kim Il Sung is indeed a hero.

revolution wrote:

Kim Il Sung is indeed a hero.

Er...lolwut? How so? If building up northern Korea fast as hell and some of his rationing systems, then yes. I can thank him for AT LEAST that. And it was during that time that southern Korea were the starving ones, getting NO help whatsoever from America. ._. So FK USA.

His repression however, HELL NO.

Juche was the final blow to northern Korea however. It means SELF reliance and EVERY GOOD COMMUNIST/SOCIALIST should know that socalled "self relience" is a sure way to FK yourself over. And capitalism relies on self relience, mhmmyeshhh?

So BURN IN HELL FKING Juche government!!! D:<

why do you think the flag is red?