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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4639 Join date : 2008-02-14 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: Water found on the moon. Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:16 am | |
| F'ing awesomeWater on the moon, yay. (That link I just found threw google). | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: Water found on the moon. Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:24 am | |
| that has been known for like decades, I don't know why there is sucha media fuss, there is water in on form or another on almost evry single planet in the univers since it's two ingredienst are the most common elements in the univers | |
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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4639 Join date : 2008-02-14 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: Re: Water found on the moon. Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:35 am | |
| Let's colonize the universe. | |
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Tyrong Kojy Member of the Supreme Council
Posts : 2142 Join date : 2008-04-11 Age : 37 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: Water found on the moon. Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:49 am | |
| That's not nesesarily true, Matt. What they wanted was H2O, not something tainted by cyanide, amonia, etc. as is the case in other places, as well as measure the possible quantity so that it could potentialy be used for a self sustaining colony on the moon. Hydrogen and oxygen do exist in fairly large quantities throughout the universe, but do not bind as often as one thinks, and oxygen itself is also much rarer than hydrogen. | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: Water found on the moon. Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:11 am | |
| umm they bind quite ealy it just happens oxygen is missing a lot of electrons and just sticks to almos evrything, oxygen is about 1% of the mass while hydrogen is 74% oxygen should take no time to form in an avrage star, while pherhaps a small part of the total it's still trillions of tonns in just our solarsystem. a sustanable station on the moon is a rediculus unfounded insanaty just a small spacestation has cost 100B$ to date and there is still 20B$ left 120B$for almost NOTHING a pice of crap floating in space, the cost of going to the moon again and build so much as a small pod there would run in the TRILLIONS the last thing you'll be worrying about is water.
only place I can see a colony forming is on mars if we can use modified bacteria to grow an atmosphere with enuf greenhouse gases it will be hot enuf and then we might be able to lice there in a few MILLION years. | |
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Tyrong Kojy Member of the Supreme Council
Posts : 2142 Join date : 2008-04-11 Age : 37 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: Water found on the moon. Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:10 am | |
| You don;t really know how far along in this kind of thing we are, do you? Would a station be expensive?W ithout a doubt. Worth it for the advancement of human knowlege and resource development? Damn right. The Helium-3 is alone worth it. And no, not millions of years for a Mars colony, dude. Who needs an atmosphere? Simply create a biodome to sustain a limited breathable atmosphere. With water taken from the moon we could grow food and subsequently an atmosphere without constant deliveries from Earth. This station can be used for research and mining. Forget hubble. That thing will eventually die. Not the telescope we have on the moon. Last I checked, the mon wasn;t going to fall from orbit. (If anything it's actually going to be launched out into space.) It;s all about sustainability, which would eliminate much of the cost we procure with the international. Tey need food and fuel shipments, but if we can procure enough water from on site, oxygen and food would not be needed, as well as fuel to keep it in orbit, since it's not in orbit.
And indeed, any oxygen out there is a tiny ammount, and subsequently, as I said, rare, and water would be even rarer. Earth didn;t have water at first. At lease nothing to sustain life. Heck, oxygen itself would have been very fatal to early life. | |
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alexCCCP-RUS-54321 World Republic Party Member
Posts : 728 Join date : 2007-12-22 Age : 115 Location : Canada/Russia/World
| Subject: Re: Water found on the moon. Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:03 am | |
| - CoolKidX wrote:
- F'ing awesome
Water on the moon, yay.
(That link I just found threw google). It's also been discovered it snows on Mars. | |
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Tyrong Kojy Member of the Supreme Council
Posts : 2142 Join date : 2008-04-11 Age : 37 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: Water found on the moon. Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:33 pm | |
| - alexCCCP-RUS-54321 wrote:
- CoolKidX wrote:
- F'ing awesome
Water on the moon, yay.
(That link I just found threw google). It's also been discovered it snows on Mars. Always wiked. Though I couldn't find anything on whether or not it was water based snow. But we know Mars HAS water, so why not? It's the current QUANTITY that's the issue. | |
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alexCCCP-RUS-54321 World Republic Party Member
Posts : 728 Join date : 2007-12-22 Age : 115 Location : Canada/Russia/World
| Subject: Re: Water found on the moon. Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:32 am | |
| - Tyrong Kojy wrote:
- alexCCCP-RUS-54321 wrote:
- CoolKidX wrote:
- F'ing awesome
Water on the moon, yay.
(That link I just found threw google). It's also been discovered it snows on Mars. Always wiked. Though I couldn't find anything on whether or not it was water based snow. But we know Mars HAS water, so why not? It's the current QUANTITY that's the issue. Yea, the water vaporises before it even hits the surface of Mars, bt its been discovered that Mars has clouds. | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts : 5413 Join date : 2007-12-06 Age : 35 Location : Mexico/Russia/Worl
| Subject: Re: Water found on the moon. Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:12 am | |
| It's amusing that here's being talked about sustainability on the moon and Mars when within the Earth we do not have said sustainability on Earth.
Not only have we not achieved an efficient resource management within our planet, our entire economic system being based on massive waste. How can we talk about doing that in other cosmic specks of dust? How can we talk about colonizing the Moon and Mars when we're literally jeopardizing our own subsistance here? | |
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alexCCCP-RUS-54321 World Republic Party Member
Posts : 728 Join date : 2007-12-22 Age : 115 Location : Canada/Russia/World
| Subject: Re: Water found on the moon. Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:46 am | |
| - Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
- It's amusing that here's being talked about sustainability on the moon and Mars when within the Earth we do not have said sustainability on Earth.
Not only have we not achieved an efficient resource management within our planet, our entire economic system being based on massive waste. How can we talk about doing that in other cosmic specks of dust? How can we talk about colonizing the Moon and Mars when we're literally jeopardizing our own subsistance here? Earth's fucked up, lets go Fuck up Mars and the Moon. (Quote from Nasa scientists) | |
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