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Gulaged? | He was the worlds most evil man | | 36% | [ 16 ] | He was an evil man | | 39% | [ 17 ] | He was just a jerk | | 7% | [ 3 ] | was bad but not gulag bad | | 2% | [ 1 ] | no | | 16% | [ 7 ] |
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Tyrlop Chairman of the WR Committee
Posts : 1853 Join date : 2008-06-01
| Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:38 pm | |
| - Anarchist.Dagger wrote:
I was merely saying that i see no practical reason to forgive anything, since it's no longer really relevent. Almost everybody involved with Germany's genocide at the time are probably deceased or at the very least, close to being deceased. there are still some people who hate germany, and have doubts about them, but most of them are stupid. like my school - Anarchist.Dagger wrote:
So that makes genocide and war okay? I don't buy it. ofcourse its not okey to make war, but it was europes faulth and not only germanys faulth that the great war started (world war 1), it was the stupidity ,nationalist, conservative and emperial, europe that started the war, not only germany. but germany where the first ones that declared peace, after they declared peace they where pointed out as the losers in the war, and the rest of europe blamed germany so they didnt lost their own nationalistic support and compassion to their country. | |
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Black_Cross Chairman of the WR Committee
Posts : 1702 Join date : 2008-04-04 Age : 35 Location : Sisyphean Hell
| Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:46 pm | |
| - Tyrlop wrote:
- ofcourse its not okey to make war, but it was europes faulth and not only germanys faulth that the great war started (world war 1), it was the stupidity ,nationalist, conservative and emperial, europe that started the war, not only germany. but germany where the first ones that declared peace, after they declared peace they where pointed out as the losers in the war, and the rest of europe blamed germany so they didnt lost their own nationalistic support and compassion to their country.
I agree to some extent. But being butt-hurt is no defense for genocide and war. Germany is to blame for that even if other countries had their hand in instigating it, to some minor extent. | |
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Tyrlop Chairman of the WR Committee
Posts : 1853 Join date : 2008-06-01
| Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:10 pm | |
| - Anarchist.Dagger wrote:
I agree to some extent. But being butt-hurt is no defense for genocide and war. Germany is to blame for that even if other countries had their hand in instigating it, to some minor extent. after they relized that the rest of europe just have used them as ashtra, they got very frustradet, and it got even worse when they for first time realized how slow and ineffectiv the democraty was, they where used to have a Emperor(kaiser). it was a real pain in the ass to be german in the twenties, and it was only a matter of time before the naivety would influence the german people. After the world war one, two of the most radical parties ever seen in germany, where formed: the nationalsocialistic party(Anton Drexler), and the communist party (Rosa Luxemburg) but thats another story. | |
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RedSoviet Member of the WR Committee
Posts : 1376 Join date : 2008-07-23 Age : 32
| Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:00 pm | |
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Robczyk2 Senior Komsomol Member
Posts : 226 Join date : 2008-07-22 Age : 34 Location : Germania Ostprussia Polska
| Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:02 am | |
| He was one of most evil man in the world | |
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Marx-Allende Pioneer Leader
Posts : 84 Join date : 2008-07-24 Age : 38 Location : San José, Costa Rica
| Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:35 pm | |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4613 Join date : 2008-01-30 Age : 30 Location : USA-Virginia
| Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:00 am | |
| lol I said he was a jerk. | |
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Diogritor Experienced Party Member
Posts : 869 Join date : 2008-01-13 Age : 32 Location : USA USA USA
| Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:28 am | |
| Something I missed.
The Nanjing incident was partially the Chinese fault. From what I have read the Chinese Army put on civilian cloths in fear. The Japanese knowing this gave the civilans no mercy. Had the Chinese army not been such cowards the civilans may have gotten it..a little bit... better. | |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4613 Join date : 2008-01-30 Age : 30 Location : USA-Virginia
| Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:14 am | |
| - Diogritor wrote:
- Something I missed.
The Nanjing incident was partially the Chinese fault. From what I have read the Chinese Army put on civilian cloths in fear. The Japanese knowing this gave the civilans no mercy. Had the Chinese army not been such cowards the civilans may have gotten it..a little bit... better. yea, most historians agree that the Japanese only did that to make the Chinese military feel bad, and surrender. | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts : 5413 Join date : 2007-12-06 Age : 35 Location : Mexico/Russia/Worl
| Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:02 am | |
| - Liche wrote:
yea, most historians agree that the Japanese only did that to make the Chinese military feel bad, and surrender. History would be different if Toyota was not the best sold car-brand in USA. | |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4613 Join date : 2008-01-30 Age : 30 Location : USA-Virginia
| Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:46 am | |
| You know their are no records that prove that? Ford, GM, and Honda all gave valid sales records, but after they went toyota said they had more than all them. | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts : 5413 Join date : 2007-12-06 Age : 35 Location : Mexico/Russia/Worl
| Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:57 am | |
| - Liche wrote:
- You know their are no records that prove that? Ford, GM, and Honda all gave valid sales records, but after they went toyota said they had more than all them.
My point is.. if Japan wasn't such an imponent commercial partner, such an important part of the G-7, there wouldn't be so much euphemism on history. | |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4613 Join date : 2008-01-30 Age : 30 Location : USA-Virginia
| Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:10 am | |
| - Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
- Liche wrote:
- You know their are no records that prove that? Ford, GM, and Honda all gave valid sales records, but after they went toyota said they had more than all them.
My point is.. if Japan wasn't such an imponent commercial partner, such an important part of the G-7, there wouldn't be so much euphemism on history. ah, good point. | |
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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4639 Join date : 2008-02-14 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:10 pm | |
| I must admit Hitler raised the german econemy in the 1930's massive. His econmey plans were fine i geusse but still he must be in tha Gulag. | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts : 5413 Join date : 2007-12-06 Age : 35 Location : Mexico/Russia/Worl
| Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:56 pm | |
| - CoolKidX wrote:
- I must admit Hitler raised the german econemy in the 1930's massive.
His econmey plans were fine i geusse but still he must be in tha Gulag. Hitler did rise Germany from Versailles Treaty's restrictions. If it hadn't been for WWII and USSR's control of Eastern Europe Gemany wouldn't be the economical power it is now. | |
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MightyObserver World Republic Party Member
Posts : 670 Join date : 2008-09-30 Age : 31 Location : Earth
| Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:09 am | |
| - Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
And even the Nazis were terrorified of what the Imperial Japanese did to prisoners and "muruta". Could you provide a link? | |
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WeiWuWei World Republic Party Member
Posts : 624 Join date : 2008-04-14 Age : 47
| Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Wed Nov 26, 2008 3:18 pm | |
| Stalin and Mao killed more people each.
But come on, just because he didn't kill the most people, does that mean that we can't call this man evil? I'm really trying to understand the justification that some of you people are giving this guy.
P.S. Hitler wasn't that smart. He was a dumb idiot who couldn't get into a shitty art school and sold shitty hand-made postcards on the streets, because he was too much of a dumb asshole to go get any kind of higher education. The guy dropped out of high school because he was such an idiot.
Really, he is, as far as intelligence goes, one of the most overrated guys in history. | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts : 5413 Join date : 2007-12-06 Age : 35 Location : Mexico/Russia/Worl
| Subject: Re: Adolf hitler Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:58 pm | |
| - WeiWuWei wrote:
- Stalin and Mao killed more people each.
I'd disagree with this. I do not defend Stalin, but the claim that his reign implied 20 million+ executions is indeed an exageration. The most acceptable (most founded, and coherent) figures are at around 4-7 million at most. As for Mao, I haven't done enough research on him. But given that China had such an enormous population and a high density, claims of 60 million seem relatively plausible. But, and I'm sure you'll agree with me on this, the matter is not in the numbers but in the action. The imporance of the numbers just lies in the magnitude and of course the intention with which these numbers are used. I'm disgusted at people that come in claiming that Stalin killed 100 million (when that is even physically impossible given the conditions of USSR)people just to advance their point against Stalin, the USSR and more terribly against Communism which has nothing to do with said executions. This is a clear capitalization on the deaths of said humans and shows a great disrespect for the lives of those that were killed, using them just as a statistical tool to disprove through fallacies the efficience and overall quality of both a system that indeed existed and of which flaws are often exagerated and a system that in no way is related to them. That's why I give importance to these numbers: to unveil the capitalizing intention of those using exageratedly high numbers and expose their overall disregard for the human lives lost. - WeiWuWei wrote:
But come on, just because he didn't kill the most people, does that mean that we can't call this man evil? I'm really trying to understand the justification that some of you people are giving this guy. Remember that "at least", he was capitalist and deffended the interests of the western Burgeoise, hadn't it been for him who knows? Maybe half of Europe would be really socialist. (Who would have helped Franco crush the Spanish republicans and the International brigades?) - WeiWuWei wrote:
P.S. Hitler wasn't that smart. He was a dumb idiot who couldn't get into a shitty art school and sold shitty hand-made postcards on the streets, because he was too much of a dumb asshole to go get any kind of higher education. The guy dropped out of high school because he was such an idiot. He coursed 5th grade 5 times. - WeiWuWei wrote:
Really, he is, as far as intelligence goes, one of the most overrated guys in history. Indeed, but let's clarify it doesn't have anythiong to do with his poor scholar performance. | |
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