An overveiw of US imperialism

mononokifool wrote:

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:

Hay, I have a bit more to add. Please don't forget the thousands Koreans on both sides of the country were killed by "friendly fire" throughout the Korean War.

And yeah...karma is gonna be a REAL beeeyotch.

Oh and Hawaii too.

I think you have the wrong idea. Korea wasn't imperialistic., but hawaii is

we made a state out of that one.. so they get representation no Foul there

Diogritor wrote:

mononokifool wrote:

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:

Hay, I have a bit more to add. Please don't forget the thousands Koreans on both sides of the country were killed by "friendly fire" throughout the Korean War.

And yeah...karma is gonna be a REAL beeeyotch.

Oh and Hawaii too.

I think you have the wrong idea. Korea wasn't imperialistic., but hawaii is

we made a state out of that one.. so they get representation no Foul there

we made a state out of them forcefully

I only meant the killings of thousands of innocent civilians in 6.25 war. The US barely mentions any of those killings nor south Korean help they got fighting north Korea and China back then.

Heard of NoGun-Ri? Over 400 men, women, and children were killed when the US Airforce bombed them gleefully. The villagers had to hide under a tunnel bridge and even then the American "saviors" shot at them for over 24 hours.

Oh, and Iraqi too.

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:

I only meant the killings of thousands of innocent civilians in 6.25 war. The US barely mentions any of those killings nor south Korean help they got fighting north Korea and China back then.

Heard of NoGun-Ri? Over 400 men, women, and children were killed when the US Airforce bombed them gleefully. The villagers had to hide under a tunnel bridge and even then the American "saviors" shot at them for over 24 hours.

Oh, and Iraqi too.

you cant count the death toll from the Korean War yet because it is not over

Washingtons idea of isolationism was a good one. The big stick policy needs to die.

Diogritor wrote:

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:

I only meant the killings of thousands of innocent civilians in 6.25 war. The US barely mentions any of those killings nor south Korean help they got fighting north Korea and China back then.

Heard of NoGun-Ri? Over 400 men, women, and children were killed when the US Airforce bombed them gleefully. The villagers had to hide under a tunnel bridge and even then the American "saviors" shot at them for over 24 hours.

Oh, and Iraqi too.

you cant count the death toll from the Korean War yet because it is not over

true it's likely to dubel from here on n-korea has 10 war heads now enguf to hit all major shout cityes and some in japan.

I seriously doubt the majority of north Korea is crazy enough to actually USE the nuclear bombs. The majority of the people (and possibly army) simply follow Krazy Kim Jong-il out of pure fear. KPA's ground force is horrid pathetic on discipline and resources, they don't even get enough food to feed each soldier.

It's so fucking pathetic, it's BEYOND "not even funny".

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:

I seriously doubt the majority of north Korea is crazy enough to actually USE the nuclear bombs. The majority of the people (and possibly army) simply follow Krazy Kim Jong-il out of pure fear. KPA's ground force is horrid pathetic on discipline and resources, they don't even get enough food to feed each soldier.

It's so fucking pathetic, it's BEYOND "not even funny".

I know but they have operational nukes.

Have you all not read Lenin's imperialism?

It doesn't have to be physical and militant for it to be imperialism.
Imperialism is the export of finance capital. anything involving that is imperialism. therefore i find it grotesquely misleading to even begin to have a timeline like that even if you are "leaving things out" you would have to mention every single time finance capital has been exported. granted Imperialist violence is terrible, i don't want the illusion that the US can merely change their policies and end imperialism. Imperialism is the decay of capitalism and must occur for Capitalism's survival. It is unavoidable when a system is based off of constantly finding new markets and new profits which is why Imperialism can only be extinguished through socialist revolution.

i quote a piece of the International Communist League's statement on the IMF World Bank.

"Today, the proletariat has been hurled back, worldwide, and the U.S. imperialists, unhindered by Soviet military might, now ride roughshod over the planet, sometimes using the United Nations as a fig leaf, wrapping global military interventions in the cloak of “humanitarianism.” Rival imperialisms, especially Germany and Japan, no longer constrained by Cold War anti-Soviet unity, are pursuing apace their own appetites for control of world markets and concomitantly projecting their military power. These conflicting national interests led to the breakup of the WTO talks in Seattle last year. These interimperialist rivalries outline future wars; with nuclear weapons, this threatens to extinguish life on the planet."

the rest of the article can be found here
http://www.icl-fi.org/english/esp/archives/oldsite/PRAGUE.HTM
and I HIGHLY suggest reading Lenin's Imperialism, The Highest Stage of Capitalism

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Imperialism is the export of finance capital

Then free trade would count as imperialism? That makes sense, considering that free trade helps the rich countries and hurts the small ones.

yeah dude

you really need to get up on some literature especially since you are interested and agree with me.

It's amazing stuff really. and it is INVALUABLE in political debates

[revise] it's actually a bit more accurate to say that free trade inevitably LEADS to imperialism.

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[revise] it's actually a bit more accurate to say that free trade inevitably LEADS to imperialism.

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Yea ever hear of the East India trade company ?
They where the backbone of the British empire look it up.

Economic power is no less powerful than military might.


Ultimate exellence lies

Not in winning every battle, but in defeating the enemy

Without ever fighting - Sun Tzu

you're preaching to the choir my friend

inkus2000 wrote:

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[revise] it's actually a bit more accurate to say that free trade inevitably LEADS to imperialism.

Yea ever hear of the East India trade company ?
They where the backbone of the British empire look it up.

Economic power is no less powerful than military might.


Ultimate exellence lies

Not in winning every battle, but in defeating the enemy

Without ever fighting - Sun Tzu

the brithish had controll of india by 1750's it wasn't till later that the qeen just sked her generals to occupi it, no problem.
same in most othere colonyes.

can you clarify that statement?

MarxistFreeman wrote:

can you clarify that statement?

upps

that wasn't very clear...