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+11cary jebus comiescums Jinnyjinster carmen510 Comrade-kRad Mr.fredy5 Diogritor RedNation Comrade Pollett Zealot_Kommunizma mattabesta 15 posters |
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did the ussr work? | NO | | 55% | [ 11 ] | Yes | | 40% | [ 8 ] | Wtf is the ussr | | 5% | [ 1 ] |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts : 5413 Join date : 2007-12-06 Age : 35 Location : Mexico/Russia/Worl
| Subject: Re: Your political side Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:52 pm | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts : 5413 Join date : 2007-12-06 Age : 35 Location : Mexico/Russia/Worl
| Subject: Re: Your political side Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:55 pm | |
| - mattabesta wrote:
but wher's my incuregement to be gr8? and why did millions fee from the communist states? *encouragement Your encouragement to be great lies within performing your job well and the societal acknowledgement of that. Really? I haven't seen any communist state yet... oh... you mean the State Capitalisms. People were searching for freer and less incongruent forms of capitalism and some were fleeing the paranoid prosecution of those regimes. | |
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RedNation Young Komsomol Member
Posts : 111 Join date : 2008-01-10 Age : 34 Location : Newfoundland
| Subject: Re: Your political side Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:39 pm | |
| I would also like to point out that the type of Government has nothing to do with the government killing its on people, it has to do with the PEOPLE ruling the government | |
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Jinnyjinster Pioneer
Posts : 49 Join date : 2008-02-14 Location : On the campaign trail, covering Obama
| Subject: Re: Your political side Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:01 pm | |
| But the people didn't get to choose the people ruling in the government. The USSR ruled itself with an iron fist and didn't bother to change that into a titanium fist. | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: Your political side Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:13 am | |
| - RedNation wrote:
- I would also like to point out that the type of Government has nothing to do with the government killing its on people, it has to do with the PEOPLE ruling the government
and the form of goverment wich gives them the ability to kill those pepole. | |
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comiescums Experienced Pioneer
Posts : 62 Join date : 2008-01-12 Location : East Europe
| Subject: Re: Your political side Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:43 pm | |
| strange ,but those who say yes never lived in ssrs nor in post-sovietic country... Why do you think this post-sovietic country people hates ssrs so much?... | |
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cary jebus Young Komsomol Member
Posts : 111 Join date : 2008-01-11
| Subject: Re: Your political side Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:00 pm | |
| - comiescums wrote:
- strange ,but those who say yes never lived in ssrs nor in post-sovietic country... Why do you think this post-sovietic country people hates ssrs so much?...
bec ause it was state capitalism. | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: Your political side Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:02 pm | |
| - cary jebus wrote:
- comiescums wrote:
- strange ,but those who say yes never lived in ssrs nor in post-sovietic country... Why do you think this post-sovietic country people hates ssrs so much?...
bec ause it was state capitalism. it's called socalism | |
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Jeiro Sijakeuigwan Experienced Party Member
Posts : 974 Join date : 2008-02-03 Age : 33 Location : The Circle of Flow
| Subject: Re: Your political side Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:37 am | |
| - mattabesta wrote:
it's called socalism No. It is state capitalism. Ever WONDER why the government gets EVERYTHING and the people recieve nothing? That's capitalism to the EXTREME. | |
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cary jebus Young Komsomol Member
Posts : 111 Join date : 2008-01-11
| Subject: Re: Your political side Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:37 am | |
| - mattabesta wrote:
- cary jebus wrote:
- comiescums wrote:
- strange ,but those who say yes never lived in ssrs nor in post-sovietic country... Why do you think this post-sovietic country people hates ssrs so much?...
bec ause it was state capitalism. it's called socalism you apear to not be sounding it out right, here ill help. STA-ETE cap-it-ill-ism | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: Your political side Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:46 am | |
| - cary jebus wrote:
- mattabesta wrote:
- cary jebus wrote:
- comiescums wrote:
- strange ,but those who say yes never lived in ssrs nor in post-sovietic country... Why do you think this post-sovietic country people hates ssrs so much?...
bec ause it was state capitalism. it's called socalism you apear to not be sounding it out right, here ill help.
STA-ETE cap-it-ill-ism socalism is the incorparation of all industry into goverment hands wheile still maintaining the market. socalism | |
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cary jebus Young Komsomol Member
Posts : 111 Join date : 2008-01-11
| Subject: Re: Your political side Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:41 am | |
| - mattabesta wrote:
- cary jebus wrote:
- mattabesta wrote:
- cary jebus wrote:
- comiescums wrote:
- strange ,but those who say yes never lived in ssrs nor in post-sovietic country... Why do you think this post-sovietic country people hates ssrs so much?...
bec ause it was state capitalism. it's called socalism you apear to not be sounding it out right, here ill help.
STA-ETE cap-it-ill-ism socalism is the incorparation of all industry into goverment hands wheile still maintaining the market.
socalism socialism Socialism refers to a broad array of ideologies and political movements with the goal of a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to control by the community.[1] This control may be either direct—exercised through popular collectives such as workers' councils—or indirect—exercised on behalf of the people by the state. As an economic system, socialism is often characterized by state, worker, or community ownership of the means of production, goals which have been attributed to, and claimed by, a number of political parties and governments throughout history. state capitalism State capitalism, in its classic meaning, is a private capitalist economy under state control. This term was often used to describe the controlled economies of the great powers in the First World War.[1] In more modern sense, state capitalism is a term used to describe a system where state is intervening in the markets to protect and advance interests of big business. This practice is in sharp contrast with the ideals of free market capitalism.[2] | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: Your political side Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:53 pm | |
| - cary jebus wrote:
- mattabesta wrote:
- cary jebus wrote:
- mattabesta wrote:
- cary jebus wrote:
- comiescums wrote:
- strange ,but those who say yes never lived in ssrs nor in post-sovietic country... Why do you think this post-sovietic country people hates ssrs so much?...
bec ause it was state capitalism. it's called socalism you apear to not be sounding it out right, here ill help.
STA-ETE cap-it-ill-ism socalism is the incorparation of all industry into goverment hands wheile still maintaining the market.
socalism socialism
Socialism refers to a broad array of ideologies and political movements with the goal of a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to control by the community.[1] This control may be either direct—exercised through popular collectives such as workers' councils—or indirect—exercised on behalf of the people by the state. As an economic system, socialism is often characterized by state, worker, or community ownership of the means of production, goals which have been attributed to, and claimed by, a number of political parties and governments throughout history.
state capitalism
State capitalism, in its classic meaning, is a private capitalist economy under state control. This term was often used to describe the controlled economies of the great powers in the First World War.[1] In more modern sense, state capitalism is a term used to describe a system where state is intervening in the markets to protect and advance interests of big business. This practice is in sharp contrast with the ideals of free market capitalism.[2] socalist goverments, cuba, venuzuvela, china all have compete controle of the econamy this is state capitalism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capitalism State capitalism, in its classic meaning, is a private capitalist economy under state control. This term was often used to describe the controlled economies of the great powers in the First World War. [1] In more modern sense, state capitalism is a term used to describe a system where state is intervening in the markets to protect and advance interests of big business. This practice is in sharp contrast with the ideals of free market capitalism. [2]This term is also used by some heterodox economists to describe a society wherein the productive forces are owned and run by a state in a capitalist way, even if such a state chooses to call itself socialist. [3] Within Marxist literature, state capitalism is usually defined in the latter sense: as a social system combining capitalism — the wage system of producing and appropriating surplus value — with ownership by a state apparatus. By that definition, a state capitalist country is a country where the government controls the economy and essentially acts like a single giant corporation. The term itself was in use within the socialist movement from the late nineteenth century onwards. Wilhelm Liebknecht in 1896 said: " Nobody has combatted State Socialism more than we German Socialists; nobody has shown more distinctively than I, that State Socialism is really State capitalism!" [4]There are various theories and critiques of state capitalism, some of which have been around since the October Revolution. The common themes among them are to identify that the workers do not meaningfully control the means of production and that commodity relations and production for profit still occur within state capitalism | |
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cary jebus Young Komsomol Member
Posts : 111 Join date : 2008-01-11
| Subject: Re: Your political side Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:56 am | |
| those are not TRUE socialist states | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: Your political side Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:43 pm | |
| - cary jebus wrote:
- those are not TRUE socialist states
true socalist states are communist and not socalist. but I've proven my point and your wrong | |
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Jeiro Sijakeuigwan Experienced Party Member
Posts : 974 Join date : 2008-02-03 Age : 33 Location : The Circle of Flow
| Subject: Re: Your political side Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:42 pm | |
| - mattabesta wrote:
- true socalist states are communist and not socalist.
but I've proven my point and your wrong WTF?! Dude. All of us "communists" here have reliterated to you here MULTIPLE TIMES, that there has been NO communist country. EVER. Lemme say it again. THERE HAS BEEN NO COMMUNIST COUNTRY! EVAH! | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: Your political side Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:14 am | |
| - Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
- mattabesta wrote:
- true socalist states are communist and not socalist.
but I've proven my point and your wrong WTF?! Dude. All of us "communists" here have reliterated to you here MULTIPLE TIMES, that there has been NO communist country.
EVER. Lemme say it again. THERE HAS BEEN NO COMMUNIST COUNTRY! EVAH! I KNOW | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: Your political side Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:18 am | |
| - kahnsguard wrote:
- WTF!!!!!!??????[sWTF!!!!!!??????ize=24]WTF!!!!!!??????[/size]WTF!!!!!!??????WTF!!!!!!??????WTF!!!!!!??????
huh? | |
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revolution Member of the WR Committee
Posts : 1042 Join date : 2007-10-15 Age : 31 Location : Yanqui central
| Subject: Re: Your political side Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:22 am | |
| - Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
THERE HAS BEEN NO COMMUNIST COUNTRY! EVAH! | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: Your political side Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:24 am | |
| - kahnsguard wrote:
- Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
THERE HAS BEEN NO COMMUNIST COUNTRY! EVAH! yes and? | |
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cary jebus Young Komsomol Member
Posts : 111 Join date : 2008-01-11
| Subject: Re: Your political side Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:49 pm | |
| - mattabesta wrote:
- cary jebus wrote:
- kahnsguard wrote:
- Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
THERE HAS BEEN NO COMMUNIST COUNTRY! EVAH! I really am missing the point here you clamed cuba was socialist | |
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revolution Member of the WR Committee
Posts : 1042 Join date : 2007-10-15 Age : 31 Location : Yanqui central
| Subject: Re: Your political side Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:06 am | |
| - cary jebus wrote:
- mattabesta wrote:
- cary jebus wrote:
- kahnsguard wrote:
- Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
THERE HAS BEEN NO COMMUNIST COUNTRY! EVAH! I really am missing the point here you clamed cuba was socialist It is. | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: Your political side Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:28 am | |
| - cary jebus wrote:
- mattabesta wrote:
- cary jebus wrote:
- kahnsguard wrote:
- Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
THERE HAS BEEN NO COMMUNIST COUNTRY! EVAH! I really am missing the point here you clamed cuba was socialist it is | |
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Kenzu Chairman of the WR Committee
Posts : 1842 Join date : 2007-08-17 Age : 37 Location : Austria - Vienna
| Subject: Re: Your political side Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:53 pm | |
| - mattabesta wrote:
- BolshevikClock wrote:
- mattabesta wrote:
- ok so the worker can not get a promotion even though he's ten times better then his fellow workers?
no, he gets dignity and pride ok i see now why communism is only pobular with a small group of pepole. even thoug i work harder produce more do better than my negbour my life will alwaies be the same qualaty. good in a ressesion bad in a boom - BolshevikClock wrote:
- mattabesta wrote:
- ok so the worker can not get a promotion even though he's ten times better then his fellow workers?
no, he gets dignity and pride ok i see now why communism is only POPULAR with a small group of PEOPLE. even THOUGH i work harder produce more do better than my NEIGHBOUR my life will ALWAYS be the same QUALITY. good in a RECESSION bad in a boom. WRITE PROPERLY!!! | |
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Watermelon ZEK in siberian gulag
Posts : 2650 Join date : 2008-04-05 Age : 30 Location : springfield, il
| Subject: Re: Your political side Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:39 pm | |
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- ok i see now why communism is only pobular with a small group of pepole.
even thoug i work harder produce more do better than my negbour my life will alwaies be the same qualaty. False. Also Cuba is not socialist. | |
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