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Cyprian Uljanow World Republic Party Member
Posts : 690 Join date : 2008-03-25 Age : 45 Location : Wroclaw
| Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:10 am | |
| Why judge someone on it's nationality? IF someone stands besides me to establish Socialism he shall be my brother-in-arms 9 figure sneakingly... reformist here), lets not get Nazi over this.. " you guys invaded us XXX years a go, so we hate you." I know numerous people that try and make arguments like that Politically valid... like that guy on deviant art kept bragging how his Granddad died in katyn therefore me and Communism is evil... pathetic how it was, I learned he was a law student... not quite encouraging that that idiots may one day be siting in the Seim ( ministry) And ideas on the paper hmmm... well id stick to China vs US seeing its quite a large subject to cover, seeing there the most rivalry bastions ( aside from fascist Russia) on ideology, so it would cover a fair share of words. Pleas lets stop hateing, becous capitalism is all based on hateing one another weather nation-wise, "race"-wise or look-wise. Communism is not sopose to reproduce the stupidities of capitalism.And speaking of which - Germans still didn't apologize to Poland, yet the smart share of society doesn't make a buzz about it | |
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Sara Pioneer Leader
Posts : 85 Join date : 2008-05-12 Age : 35 Location : Shanghai
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4613 Join date : 2008-01-30 Age : 30 Location : USA-Virginia
| Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:46 am | |
| Cypranian, it's like the Polish and the Germans, for as long as they've been countries they've disliked one and other. | |
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Sara Pioneer Leader
Posts : 85 Join date : 2008-05-12 Age : 35 Location : Shanghai
| Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:01 am | |
| hmmm......This is the world....when can it be changed? Who knows.... | |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4613 Join date : 2008-01-30 Age : 30 Location : USA-Virginia
| Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:11 am | |
| - Sara wrote:
- hmmm......This is the world....when can it be changed?
Who knows.... Maybe change is a figment of our imaginations, meant to push us forward in life. Or maybe were to ignorant to do any thing and disagree on things that we agree on, like the idea of a monotheistic religion, jews, muslims, christians, all have the same god. Only an estimated 1/4 of the world knows that. (please note I made the estimant, which is based on the people I know in the world ) | |
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Sara Pioneer Leader
Posts : 85 Join date : 2008-05-12 Age : 35 Location : Shanghai
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4613 Join date : 2008-01-30 Age : 30 Location : USA-Virginia
| Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:27 am | |
| It's quite possible we will, but quite possible we won't. It's like a 75/75 percentile, it just doesn't make sense, like you said. In some cases rites are just the positive side of restriction. Rites are not freedom, the so we are not free, but as close as we can get, it depends on ones definition of freedom. Is freedom being able to buy your own land? Or the government giving every one equal healthcare benefits? Perhaps freedom is nobody gets anything and starting at the bottom. For socialism to happen every one would have to agree with socialism. Or someone would have to point a nuke the earth from in space, but hopefuly we aren't that desperate lol. lol By the way, the only reason I sound all 'emo' and depressed is I've been reading conspiracy theorys about the end of the world. | |
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Sara Pioneer Leader
Posts : 85 Join date : 2008-05-12 Age : 35 Location : Shanghai
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Kapitalist Pioneer
Posts : 42 Join date : 2008-01-28 Age : 32 Location : Germany, Kempten (Bavarian)
| Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:04 pm | |
| Grüß dich Genossin,
Es ist nett eine weibliche Person unter uns zu haben die sich politisch interessiert. Doch habe ich eine frage an dich? Aus welchen Gründen tritts du der Kommunistischen Partei bei? Der Kommuismus ist heutezutage nicht realisierbar oder wie siehst du das?
It´s nice to meet you, a girl within us who´s interessted in politics. But I´ve got a question for you, Whose reassons are induce you to tread into the commi party? Communism couldn´t be realized these days, could be?
Sozialdemokratischer Gruß aus Deutschland
Social democracies gretting from Germany | |
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Sara Pioneer Leader
Posts : 85 Join date : 2008-05-12 Age : 35 Location : Shanghai
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Black_Cross Chairman of the WR Committee
Posts : 1702 Join date : 2008-04-04 Age : 35 Location : Sisyphean Hell
| Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:11 pm | |
| First off, i'd like to say that, except for the reformism deal, i completely agree with Cyprian. Race is such an insignificant factor in life, and we, as socialists, need to refrain from such judgements, lest we find ourselves repeating, as Cyprian said, capitalist stupidities. I also don't understand how Japan and China cannot get over something that happened first a century ago, and then like 65 years ago. Why does China want an apology from Japan? It wasn't Japan that made that war, it was the people within its government. The people of Japan should not be held responsible for what their despotic government decides to do. If the people of China cannot forgive, and instead hold a grudge, nothing's going to change in their relations with the Japanese. These stupid grudges only strengthen governments anyway, so the longer we hate others for belonging to a different country, or nationality, the more difficult it will become achieving our ideal of communism. Also, let's not be so idealist to believe that communism is inevitable (Not that anyone has said this so far, just in anticipation). If we do not become active and keep pushing, nothing will be achieved. - Quote :
- also my friends are talking about the theory of the end of the world. One of my friend said that she would love to believe that is true.
I was totally surprised....Why???I asked,she said so that the world can start again.She thinks that's good. I think if this were to happen, as unlikely as it is, we would merely end up repeating the same horrid mistakes. | |
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Tyrlop Chairman of the WR Committee
Posts : 1853 Join date : 2008-06-01
| Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:21 pm | |
| i knew a japanes, lol he wasnt nationalistik, but he hated chines, and he was proud of what his grandparents had done 65 years ago... | |
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Voice of Reason Komsomol Member
Posts : 183 Join date : 2008-01-12
| Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:19 pm | |
| Pheew correcting all the either politically incorrect or illogical statements in this thread could take some time, so let's just begin. Not liking somebody because of his nationality is simply racism. As my girlfriend is japanese-korean, I would like to ask you for an excuse to the Japanese people. Following a political fraction because the main party won a war 40 years ago is also not the best idea. Taking classes about the communist party of china in china itself might also not be the most unbiased thing you can do.
Also one question why does your friend think the world will start anew after it's destruction?
Nonetheless welcome to the forum on my part.
P.S. Respekt dein Deutsch ist schon sehr gut. Ich schätze Kenzu hat dir sehr geholfen. | |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4613 Join date : 2008-01-30 Age : 30 Location : USA-Virginia
| Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:27 pm | |
| I know someone who's half japnese, their dad works at a place that does research for atomic bombs. lol | |
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Cyprian Uljanow World Republic Party Member
Posts : 690 Join date : 2008-03-25 Age : 45 Location : Wroclaw
| Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:18 pm | |
| Communism is a hard goal, no doubt about it, but its also very inspiring and I think that in the long run it will work - its just making that first hard step thats jamming the world for the bast century. Either people being too close minded, or people doing it wrongly... but hey were all humans, if we wouldn't make mistakes we would be a perfect society already | |
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Sara Pioneer Leader
Posts : 85 Join date : 2008-05-12 Age : 35 Location : Shanghai
| Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:20 am | |
| Woo.... Here is my exam:Wars begin every hundred year between China and Japan,19th century,China lost.20th century,China won.Now is 21th centuury,do you think Japan will aggression China again? If it happens,when and which country will win? Why?
I saw many opinions about the relationship. My point still is like this ,we don't like Japan .But at the same time we will not do something bad to Japanese,We can be friends.We just feel angry when someone says "I'm proud of what my grandfather has done." We feel angry that they tried to change the history so that the young in Japan don't know the truth.
For the peace of the world ,I think it's better to let it go.
We study history just because we want to prevent it happening again . | |
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Kenzu Chairman of the WR Committee
Posts : 1842 Join date : 2007-08-17 Age : 37 Location : Austria - Vienna
| Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:12 am | |
| It wont happen again, because Japan has no military and is owned by USA, which uses this puppet state as a free source of soldiers for Iraq and other wars and to boost US economy. - Voice of Reason wrote:
Also one question why does your friend think the world will start anew after it's destruction?
P.S. Respekt dein Deutsch ist schon sehr gut. Ich schätze Kenzu hat dir sehr geholfen. I have never said that! I am against the destruction of the world. I am a reformist. No matter if a government is overthrown with a revolution or changed by vote, the economy has to be changed stape by step. (no huge steps at the time. However not by walking, but by running!)
PS: Ich habe nicht allzu sehr geholfen, Sie hat schon vorhin sehr viel gewusst!
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Sara Pioneer Leader
Posts : 85 Join date : 2008-05-12 Age : 35 Location : Shanghai
| Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:36 pm | |
| It's my friend said that,she said that if the world end,she doesn't need stand today's world.
My answer on the paper is this: Maybe Japan will aggression China again.Maybe it's these years.Because China must hold the Olympic Games in Beijingand EXPO in Shanghai. Maybe Japan will take advantage of this chance. But I don't think Japan can win. Firstly.China's military strength is not so weak as before. Secondly,We are always friendly to Japan, they can't find any excuse to do that. Thirdly, China and Japan have many business cooperation,it's not good for them to aggression us.
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Kenzu Chairman of the WR Committee
Posts : 1842 Join date : 2007-08-17 Age : 37 Location : Austria - Vienna
| Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:33 pm | |
| Sounds realistic I guess
They dont need more territory anyway, their population is shrinking.
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Sara Pioneer Leader
Posts : 85 Join date : 2008-05-12 Age : 35 Location : Shanghai
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Voice of Reason Komsomol Member
Posts : 183 Join date : 2008-01-12
| Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:23 pm | |
| Japan has it's own problems these days even witout wars. I really don't think they will go to war because of the olympic games, maybe if certain people's armies attack Taiwan, but that's rather hypothetical. Also last time I checked there were no japanese soldiers in Iraq.
Territory today is not as desirable as it used to be. Japan is one of the richest countries in the world, yet has only very limited natural ressources. Thus Japan doesn't need to conquer territory, it gets richer just by exploiting diplomacy trade and technology. From a european point of view I would say the most likely country to start a war in asia is northern Korea and maybe, but less likely it's big brother. | |
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Voice of Reason Komsomol Member
Posts : 183 Join date : 2008-01-12
| Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:25 pm | |
| - Sara wrote:
- Woo....
We can be friends.We just feel angry when someone says "I'm proud of what my grandfather has done." erm... isn't that exactly what you said three posts ago? | |
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Sara Pioneer Leader
Posts : 85 Join date : 2008-05-12 Age : 35 Location : Shanghai
| Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:45 am | |
| I didn't say that before. | |
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Cyprian Uljanow World Republic Party Member
Posts : 690 Join date : 2008-03-25 Age : 45 Location : Wroclaw
| Subject: Re: Sara from Shanghai Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:21 am | |
| Actually you did mention something about your Grandpa showing you how Communism is great and all that, but that not really what you meant with " I'm proud what my Grandpa did lolz" is bad, in the first place. | |
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Sara Pioneer Leader
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