Trial against jeiro

"As for the Jews. To be honest, I hold absolutely NO sympathy toward them at all. It was their own problem, and they got MORE than enough justice served to them. But that's not the problem. What's the problem is that, while everybody is all "OMG, Nazis!" and continuing to arrest and imprison former Nazis, other war criminals (such as Imperial Japanese) are left free to go."

Clearly an anti-semetic position, to say the Jews deserved to die. i know this is rather old, but I must have missed this earlier and i haven't been on for about a month, pus I thought he wasn't active anymore, but I saw a recent post made by him today. This is very offensive to me and i am sure countless others. Japanese imperalism was irrelavent to the thread, what they did was horrible, but it dosn't discredit other autrocities. The forum was about whether or not Hitler deserved to be sent to the gulags. And what Jeiro said? That he was just a jerk, that's all. He was just a jerk despite the fact taht he killed 6 MILLION people. Please, consider banning him, and not just because I dislike him, but because of that comment.

I think what he was saying is that he doesn't sympathies with the Jewish Position, rather than Jews per-say.

It sounds otherwise, to me. Read his other comments. He thinks all jews are rich capitalists and deserve to die.

I don't think that is an anti-semitic position. In my view he is probably arguing that the Holocaust is given too much attention while other atrocities are not given enough.

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

I don't think that is an anti-semitic position. In my view he is probably arguing that the Holocaust is given too much attention while other atrocities are not given enough.

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And yes, indeed the Holocuast is given TOO MUCH attention by the media. It's on like, every single year. For serious. And yet, whenever China or Korea blames Japan for "this and that", China and Korea are given the cold shoulder.

Oh btw, I have a Jewish friend of mine. My class pokes fun at him for TEH LULZ!!!

defendant wrote:

okay you confirmed wat calinis said but most 4channers are antisemitic and racist

Jews make fun out of Jews. I can tell you because I had been inside Jewish communities for years.

It maybe gets lots of attention because it was HORRIBLE. i know there are other horrible things that have happened and they should get attention too, but it doesnt make the Holocaust any less horrible.

You make it seem like it wasn't inhumane and calling Hitler just a "jerk" is all you can say about it. I dont care if you have any Jewish friends, what you said was insulting to EVERYONE who was a victim of it. Oh and guess what, you little racist piece of shit, Hitler didn't just kill Jews, he killed communists too.

And Jeiro, stop being an mentally handicapped individual, your constant use of internet memes dont make you "cute" and dont make your arguement any better.

Even though the Holocaust was a terrible attrocity, propagandistically it always overshadows contemporary tragedies like what Hitler did in Poland, USSR, Yugoslavia and other occupied teritories. It also greatly overshadows what Japenese did in China and Korea which was no less horrible than what was done in Europe.

Germany had Mengele, Japan had Shiroishii (sp?). The difference is one didn't endure the WWII and the other went to work with USA.

No, what Zeakot says is true.

So those killed in the Holocaust deserved it because there were other atrocities? That is completely irrelavent to what he said. If someone was going to talk about another atrocity, I'm not going to go 'those people deserved to die because there were worse tragedies". And really it doesnt matter what ethnicity, NOBODY should have to endure with those people endured. It was utterly horrible. So what if all Jews were rich capitalists, which is bigoted sterotyping, they did NOT deserve it. If you hate the state of Israel, that is entirely another matter, and you shouldn't say the people deserve it because it is going to further the Jewsish cause (and we wouldnt want that eh???). Again, the thread was about whether or not Hitler deserved to be sent the gulags, so talking about other crime against humanity doesnt mean that what he did was any less horrible. It's like saying there were too murders of both innocent people, one got more media coverage than the other, of course it's completely unfair to the one individual whose life seemed less than the other, but would you say the person deserved to die simply because they got more media coverage? This is absurd how you can actually defend what he said when it was blatant racism. If you want to make a thread about the Japanese did to China, go right ahead. I'm not going to bring the Holocaust into it because it's completely irrelavent.

calinis wrote:

It maybe gets lots of attention because it was HORRIBLE. i know there are other horrible things that have happened and they should get attention too, but it doesnt make the Holocaust any less horrible.

You make it seem like it wasn't inhumane and calling Hitler just a "jerk" is all you can say about it. I dont care if you have any Jewish friends, what you said was insulting to EVERYONE who was a victim of it. Oh and guess what, you little racist piece of shit, Hitler didn't just kill Jews, he killed communists too.

And Jeiro, stop being an mentally handicapped individual, your constant use of internet memes dont make you "cute" and dont make your arguement any better.

not just communist but evryone who wasn't nazi includin conservitives.

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Ara? :3c

Anyways, I just said that the Holocuast gets TOO much attention and others not enough. Why, just LOOK at Gitmo Bay. And Iraq. .__. They are war crimes too but instead, I see war criminals let free because of "inconculsive evidence".

Hmmyesh?

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:

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Ara? :3c

Anyways, I just said that the Holocuast gets TOO much attention and others not enough. Why, just LOOK at Gitmo Bay. And Iraq. .__. They are war crimes too but instead, I see war criminals let free because of "inconculsive evidence".

Hmmyesh?

dude the iraq war get's likke 20% of screen time in a-us media and 99% on fox.( in the pauses they give you horrable hurrecane warnings)

No, Jeiro, that is no what you said. You clearly stated that they deserved it. And the fact that you stated that Hitler was a jerk and that was all. 6 million people killed and the guy's "just a jerk"? And no it doesn't get a ton of media coverage, in fact I haven't heard it been talked about for a long time, probably since last year's history class. And irregardless, it is indeed deserving of media coverage to show people what humans are capable of, and to mourn those that died. That said, other atrocities deserve coverage as well. I am not saying that the Holocaust was "worse" or "better" (I hate using those words to desrcribe it) than others. It was a crime against humanity, and it seems some people (namely you, Jeiro) think that because the western media condemns it, your opinion must be opposite (you wouldn't want to agree with the western media on anything eh), so indeed you see not the people who were killed for mny things they could not control, but simply see it as a Jewish expression to further their agenda. Please see the stories of the people who died, and the "oh well it sucks, but whatever, there were worse things" dribble you're spewing out makes them seem like their lives were meaningless. my opinion is not swayed by whether or not there is a ton of media coverage on one particular story, but the story itself. This is likewise to any other inhumane actions that seem predominate throughout history. The way you said things was horribly and grossly offensive to not just me, but to many others.

(By the way, as Mattabesta said, the Iraq war DOES get a ton of coverage.)

calinis wrote:

So those killed in the Holocaust deserved it because there were other atrocities?

You're absolutely missing his point. He's expressing disgust that the Holocaust is given more priority than equally to arguably more terrible attrocities. He never said they deserved it.

calinis wrote:

That is completely irrelavent to what he said. This is absurd how you can actually defend what he said when it was blatant racism.

How can there be racism when the subject is a religion?

calinis wrote:

If you want to make a thread about the Japanese did to China, go right ahead. I'm not going to bring the Holocaust into it because it's completely irrelavent.

If we're all talking about the Holocaust it's perfectly contextual to give your opinion that it overshadows other terrible crimes and to compare it with them.

"To be honest, I hold absolutely NO sympathy toward them at all"

Again, must I state this? So he holds "no sympathy toward them at all"? What does that mean? Does it, perhaps, mean that they deserved there treatment?

And yes its racist as Jews are a race. They weren't killed on the basis of religion, but defining jewish characteristics. Again, it doesnt matter. He hates them anwyays.

Actually the thread was about whether or not hitler deserved to be sent to the gulags. The other atrocities are irrelavent to his punnishment (hypothetically speaking 'cause i know hes dead)

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When he said he has no sympathy it means he doesn't pity them at all becous they got enough pity as it is - stop throwing strawman Fallacys

calinis wrote:

"To be honest, I hold absolutely NO sympathy toward them at all"

Again, must I state this? So he holds "no sympathy toward them at all"? What does that mean? Does it, perhaps, mean that they deserved there treatment?

Like Cyprian said, one thing is to say you don't pitty them and another to state they deserved it.

calinis wrote:

And yes its racist as Jews are a race. They weren't killed on the basis of religion, but defining jewish characteristics. Again, it doesnt matter. He hates them anwyays.

Jewish race? Have you ever been to a synagogue? There are two main Jewish "etnical groups": Ashkenazim which are nothing but a grouping for central and eastern european Jews comprising thus germanic and slavic jews mainly. And Sefardim: Mediterranian Jews being a grouping of mainly semitic Jews that is Middle Eastern, Turkish, Spanish, northern African. Ah and another less common grouping: Ethiopian Jews which are Africans, black people, Morgan Freeman with a yarmulka for you to get the mental image.

This is a very simple way to put it. Jewish race? JHa!

And no, he never aid he hates them.

calinis wrote:

Actually the thread was about whether or not hitler deserved to be sent to the gulags. The other atrocities are irrelavent to his punnishment (hypothetically speaking 'cause i know hes dead)

If the Holocaust comes to mention, then other attrocities can be. You can always state on those circumstances a comparison. I'd myself though would have mentioned mainly other parts of teh wars like the great ammount of Eastern European casualties which ammount to the bulk of the death toll in the war.

no acctully it's the chinese sorry.

p.s were you counting the once "lost in action"?

Stop defending that mentally handicapped individual. Hitler obviously had a basis of identifying them as Jews and not based on religion. Zealot again you dont know what the thread was about. It WASNT a thread saying "ZOMG WHAT WAS THE WORSE ATROCITY" it was a thread asking whether or not Hitler deserved to be sent to the gulags. As I have said earlier mentioning of other atrocites are completely irrelavent when deciding amongst hypothetical punnishment. Just because there have been other inhumane actions, it doesnt make his actions "less evil". So in YOUR discussion; "Hitler wasn't that bad because there have been worse, he ONLY killed 6 million people. More people died than that in World War II, more people died in such and such. "

Explain how you do not pity them, oooh the rich capitalists eh? FIRSTLY they werent all rich capitalists, secondly even if they were THEY DID NOT DESERVE IT. NOBODY deserves the conditions these people went through. Talk to a Holocaust surviver; tell them you do not pity them. Tell them what they ent through was alright because there were other things that were worse which OBVIOUSLY discredits the horror they went through. You do not pity the 2 year olds who were thrown in the fire by SS men and laughed about by them. You do not pity the poor people who worked so hard that they died. I wouldnt wish this upon my worst enemies. I cant believe the large amount of NAzi sympathies people have ironcally on this thread.

calinis you know they are not allowed to aggre with you?

mattabesta wrote:

calinis you know they are not allowed to aggre with you?

lol, owned.

Besides, if you TRUELY believed in the "American values" cal, you would ACCEPT EVERYBODY'S OPINION here and be very OPEN minded.

Of course, so-called "American values" are overshadowed by blind militarism (600 billion per year) and nationalism. lawls.

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

calinis you know they are not allowed to aggre with you?

lol, owned.

Besides, if you TRUELY believed in the "American values" cal, you would ACCEPT EVERYBODY'S OPINION here and be very OPEN minded.

Of course, so-called "American values" are overshadowed by blind militarism (600 billion per year) and nationalism. lawls.

was I owmed? how did that happen??

I accept people's opinions, just not if they are offensive like yours and Zealot's. Instead of defending your position about how you hate Jews, you change directions to how much you hate the American gvernment and you live there eh? So when are you leaving? How about i'm make it more general. When you leaving this earth, you scum?