Do you think there will be no religion in the future?

The amount of religious people falls constantly, mainly in countries where people have to pay a tax to the church, like here in austria

Kenzu wrote:

The amount of religious people falls constantly, mainly in countries where people have to pay a tax to the church, like here in austria

Maybe, but there will still be people with religious views in the world. Also it seems that hard times and huge wars strike points for Christianity (not to mention Italy and Ireland's strong catholicism) , India ain't leavening there believes, and the Arabian world seems secure to hold on to Islam

It depends on which type of religion you are speaking of, Monotheism or Polytheism? The Pagan religions will probably last forever since they've been here since practically the beginning of time.

Hmm Soviets got atheism

I think the religions we know will always exist, but not in such amounts as now. Maybe only a few percent will be religious, but nonetheless they will always have a few million followers, because there will always be some people, who will like it.

Depends on what we call "religion".

For example, I have some spiritual beliefs which I prefer to keep because I don't want to think of myself as a mere cumulous of chemical compounds reacting with other chemical compounds. I like to think there's a soul and that there's something beyond science, something that gives a sense to living and existing. The existance of a soul as my identity, as what I can call me. That's my metaphysical belief and what I believe to confort myself, to give some sense to all existance.

I have principles, I have a concept of what is correct and not. I have a code of conduct. All compaginated with communism.

I even have some friends who say their religion is communism.

If that can be called "religion", then I think religion, even if we speak about 6,000 million different religions or "individual religions", then religion will never stop existing and religion should exist in some way.

If someone could prove me without the slightest possiblity of being wrong, without possibility of denying it, that we're just chemicals reacting with other chemicals, then, I would simply isolate myself and probably be a completelly sociopathic terrorist.

I think it would be the best for the world, tough it seems impossible to wipe out religion, at least many countries had become secular states like Spain has been doing; or starting some opening as Pakistan when elected Benazir Bhutto in spite of the strong anti-women views of Islam.

Silver89Quaid wrote:

I think it would be the best for the world, tough it seems impossible to wipe out religion, at least many countries had become secular states like Spain has been doing; or starting some opening as Pakistan when elected Benazir Bhutto in spite of the strong anti-women views of Islam.

Why exactly, in your view, is religion necesarily negative to humanity?

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

Silver89Quaid wrote:

I think it would be the best for the world, tough it seems impossible to wipe out religion, at least many countries had become secular states like Spain has been doing; or starting some opening as Pakistan when elected Benazir Bhutto in spite of the strong anti-women views of Islam.

Why exactly, in your view, is religion necesarily negative to humanity?

to tell you the truth, i think it can be used in socialist favor

BolshevikClock wrote:

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

Silver89Quaid wrote:

I think it would be the best for the world, tough it seems impossible to wipe out religion, at least many countries had become secular states like Spain has been doing; or starting some opening as Pakistan when elected Benazir Bhutto in spite of the strong anti-women views of Islam.

Why exactly, in your view, is religion necesarily negative to humanity?

to tell you the truth, i think it can be used in socialist favor

I agree to that! It works well for Christian socialism especially in Latin America. Christianity isn't that bad. I think the most important thing is not to be dogmatic and be open to new ideas.

To talk about religion or any kind of ideology we have first to think about this:

1. Which are the principles promoted by that religion/ideology/doctrine?
2. Is that religion/ideology/doctrine congruent?
3. Which are the basic points of that religion/ideology/doctrine?
4. How do the basic points of that religion/ideology/doctrine affect on society?

One essential point that comes to my mind and, that can greatly affect the reason for which humans act is the next: According to a religion/ideology/doctrine, what are we?

For example, a materialist atheist may argue the next: soul doesn't exist, there's nothing like a creator, life is product of a series of chemical reactions, emotions are merely the product of electrochemical reactions within our nervous system.
On those grounds, humanity by itself may have no value at all and we could be given the same rights as a mound of gold or chlorhydric acid. Being treated merely as substances.
identity perse doesn't exist since it can be chemically or scientifically altered.

Other one may argue the next: We have a soul and feelings and emotions are instrinsic to it, part of the individual identity of this soul.
Thus we have an identity, the concept "me" perse exists and we can advocate for its intergrity. Something higher than science exists.

I know I'm always counting up counter arguments, but that's just me.
First the number of Members of most religions in constantly increasing, really the pope could wipe his ass with austrias catholics
Second There is no continuity of most Neo-Pagan religions, thats just some kids thinking Thor has a bigger hammer than jesus .. literally
Third: Jesus was not a communist. For a hardcore catholic like me thats clear. He made statements on how to behave properly, not how to spend the state's Budget in a most reasonable way. Although he could have done that, if he wanted to.

Voice of Reason wrote:

I know I'm always counting up counter arguments, but that's just me.
First the number of Members of most religions in constantly increasing, really the pope could wipe his ass with austrias catholics
Second There is no continuity of most Neo-Pagan religions, thats just some kids thinking Thor has a bigger hammer than jesus .. literally
Third: Jesus was not a communist. For a hardcore catholic like me thats clear. He made statements on how to behave properly, not how to spend the state's Budget in a most reasonable way. Although he could have done that, if he wanted to.

As I said in other thread, no one know for sure what Jesus stood for. And "proper" is a relative term so you'd have to elaborate on what is proper or not. And making a budget and deciding how to manage it is also part of behaviour. Communism, if that's what you tried to imply, is not just about "spending budget in a reasonable way".

I tried to imply that Jesus did not tell us what his views on world economics were. Jesus told us how to live a life to redeem ourselves in front of the lord and to live in peace.
Christianity in short: Don't do to other people what you don't want to be done to you.

religion is something we made up to assure us that ther is something beyond death then it became some sort of moral code like it is today althug we never folow theas moral codes.

religionwill fall qikly in European cuntrys were you have to pay but it will happen inother cuntries in the end maybe 40% of the population will hold on to "god" but most of us beleve in a higer power.

The nordic cuntries are a good exampel norway and iceland onlt have about 70% of the population registered in a religus group and in iceland you have to let the goverment knw if you don't want to be part of "þjóðkyrkjunni"( national church).


Go God Go God GO God

mattabesta wrote:

religion is something we made up to assure us that ther is something beyond death then it became some sort of moral code like it is today althug we never folow theas moral codes.

religionwill fall qikly in European cuntrys were you have to pay but it will happen inother cuntries in the end maybe 40% of the population will hold on to "god" but most of us beleve in a higer power.

The nordic cuntries are a good exampel norway and iceland onlt have about 70% of the population registered in a religus group and in iceland you have to let the goverment knw if you don't want to be part of "þjóðkyrkjunni"( national church).


Go God Go God GO God

It would be quite funny to see south American missionary's in Europe XD

Maybe eventually, but not for some epochs. Here in the States especially, our fundamentalists are worse than most of "Islamofascists" they constantly condemn and blame all of their crimes and inabilities as leaders on.

There always has been religion, so there will always be religion, though it may become less mainstream.

themacintrasher wrote:

There always has been religion, so there will always be religion, though it may become less mainstream.

There having always been something assures that it will not exist in the future, especially religion.

oligarch wrote:

themacintrasher wrote:

There always has been religion, so there will always be religion, though it may become less mainstream.

There having always been something assures that it will not exist in the future, especially religion.

religon is good religon wilol dissapere in an itelectual society but in the states it's unlikely to dissapear.

Religion will last a long time, and even if it does go away, its influence will still be here to stay.

Most likely, I think organized religion will go away eventually, but the belief that there is a divine being(s) will probably last forever.

carmen510 wrote:

Religion will last a long time, and even if it does go away, its influence will still be here to stay.

Most likely, I think organized religion will go away eventually, but the belief that there is a divine being(s) will probably last forever.

humm yeah I doubt well ever know what caused the big bang wether it be god or something eles.

Who knows, I just certainly hope religions would get aong better in the future,

RedNation wrote:

Who knows, I just certainly hope religions would get aong better in the future,

Its not in the nature of religions to get along.

oligarch wrote:

RedNation wrote:

Who knows, I just certainly hope religions would get aong better in the future,

Its not in the nature of religions to get along.

althouh they all say theyer pepole should live in peac