Do you think there will be no religion in the future?

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oligarch wrote:

RedNation wrote:

Who knows, I just certainly hope religions would get aong better in the future,

Its not in the nature of religions to get along.

althouh they all say theyer pepole should live in peac

Yea, religions have double standards

I can tell you that this Generation will have dramatically less religion believers than the past one, most the kids today just bluntly ask questions, most religions cant answer... like " any proof this is more than just written words?"

Marx identified 2 main reasons for religion to exist:
1. The ruling class creates religion to keep the exploited class satisfied
2. The exploited class creates its own religion to comfort itself

When communism comes, there will be no classes, and thus no reason to believe in religion.

Pannekoek wrote:

Marx identified 2 main reasons for religion to exist:
1. The ruling class creates religion to keep the exploited class satisfied
2. The exploited class creates its own religion to comfort itself

When communism comes, there will be no classes, and thus no reason to believe in religion.

LOLZ so marx thinks religon was created by the ruling class??
oh well can't blame him borni in what 1800?
religon comforts pepole and makes them beleve there is something after life wch reduces the fear of death so if we lose death canses are we lose religon 2.

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LOLZ so marx thinks religon was created by the ruling class??
oh well can't blame him borni in what 1800?

"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" -Lucius Annaeus Seneca

"Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet" -Napoleon Bonaparte

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religon comforts pepole and makes them beleve there is something after life wch reduces the fear of death so if we lose death canses are we lose religon 2.

This is a false idealist explanation of religion. Marxists know that consciousness is determined by the material conditions, not the other way around. People only believe in god with the right material conditions, when they are poor. This is a proven fact. Everyone knows poor people tend to be more religious than people living in better conditions.

Pannekoek wrote:

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LOLZ so marx thinks religon was created by the ruling class??
oh well can't blame him borni in what 1800?

"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" -Lucius Annaeus Seneca

"Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet" -Napoleon Bonaparte

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religon comforts pepole and makes them beleve there is something after life wch reduces the fear of death so if we lose death canses are we lose religon 2.

This is a false idealist explanation of religion. Marxists know that consciousness is determined by the material conditions, not the other way around. People only believe in god with the right material conditions, when they are poor. This is a proven fact. Everyone knows poor people tend to be more religious than people living in better conditions.

those who don't have education are generally more religus and in some cuntreyes that means the poor.

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those who don't have education are generally more religus and in some cuntreyes that means the poor.

It is a well known fact that poor people do not have access to quality education. Your point is? You are just proving what I already said.

Pannekoek wrote:

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those who don't have education are generally more religus and in some cuntreyes that means the poor.

It is a well known fact that poor people do not have access to quality education. Your point is? You are just proving what I already said.

poor pepole are usally with wores education in cuntryes wich I don't like.
using my consept of how a state should be run in theroy poor should have just as good education.

That won't take away the exploitation an therefore won't take away the shitty life which needs to be escaped with religious fantasies.

Pannekoek wrote:

That won't take away the exploitation an therefore won't take away the shitty life which needs to be escaped with religious fantasies.

of a savior?

I think as people become well educated religion will become replaced by philosophy or at least more 'open ended' religions ie Buddhism .

inkus2000 wrote:

I think as people become well educated religion will become replaced by philosophy or at least more 'open ended' religions ie Buddhism .

true but today islam and athism are the fastest growing.

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I think as people become well educated religion will become replaced by philosophy or at least more 'open ended' religions ie Buddhism .

Philosophy is just as dogmatic and irrelevant to the real world as religion is.

Pannekoek wrote:

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I think as people become well educated religion will become replaced by philosophy or at least more 'open ended' religions ie Buddhism .

Philosophy is just as dogmatic and irrelevant to the real world as religion is.

yeah but I mean partly good morals.

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yeah but I mean partly good morals.

Morality is very dogmatic and subjective.

Pannekoek wrote:

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yeah but I mean partly good morals.

Morality is very dogmatic and subjective.

ok let's stop this. you are clearly a person with no respect for othere epoles beleves so fuck off if you don't make a good case othere than saying pepole are wrong and you right

I have disagreed with people. Either they didn't defend themself or I am arguing with them now. I do not respect idiotic beliefs.

Pannekoek wrote:

I have disagreed with people. Either they didn't defend themself or I am arguing with them now. I do not respect idiotic beliefs.

now anothere show of your egoism, show respect to othere pepole no matter theyer belefs is a show of maturity.

anyway have you read das kapital?

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now anothere show of your egoism, show respect to othere pepole no matter theyer belefs is a show of maturity.

Why don't you respect my belief to not respect your belief? Fucken hypocrite.

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anyway have you read das kapital?

Yes.

Pannekoek wrote:

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now anothere show of your egoism, show respect to othere pepole no matter theyer belefs is a show of maturity.

Why don't you respect my belief to not respect your belief? Fucken hypocrite.

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anyway have you read das kapital?

Yes.

that's qite a contradictory remark.

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that's qite a contradictory remark.

Care to elaborate?

Pannekoek- Philosophy is just as dogmatic and irrelevant to the real world as religion is.[/quote]

Well thats your philosophy I gather

Pannekoek wrote:

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that's qite a contradictory remark.

Care to elaborate?

what??

Why is what I said "qite a contradictory remark"

To touch back on the title of this topic, whether or not the major religions of today will be as prevalent within a century or so, or perhaps longer, is uncertain. What I do think is a safe assertion to make is that a few less mainstream belief systems might fall through the cracks: Jains, Shintos, Taoists, and Confucians particularly, just to name a few examples. And this is not to detract any kind of validity or virtue from these belief systems; it is simply an observation that these communities have grown very small, even within the countries of their origin.

What I think is an interesting point to make is that nations, such as the United States, where religious freedom is permitted and people are not forced to believe in one particular indoctrination of faith often have a larger population of religious people in them. Conversely, I think history has shown that states that have enforced a single belief system have bred distrust in religion. So I think if the major religions wish to survive in a more modernized world, and if they wish to raise their numbers, they must learn to not interfere with the state, make peace with Western culture, and stop trying to indoctrinate people so tenaciously.

Nevertheless, I don't think that there will ever be a time where there is no such thing as religion, unless we reach a time where man no longer wonders if there is anything beyond what he experiences in the corporeal world. New ones may rise, old ones may fall, and some may persist, but I just don't see man moving beyond the idea that there is more out there, because I don't think he'll ever know if there is or, most likely, isn't.