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PostSubject: The Last Trial of Watermelon.   The Last Trial of Watermelon. Icon_minitimeMon Aug 04, 2008 8:48 am

SO as Watermelon wanted, this will be the most organised and official trial that was ever hosted on this site - This will be the last trial, the Role of the Judge of there is no objection will be hosted by me, becous I don't know if there's anyone really Neutrally stated towards Melon - unless there is I'll happily give the seat to anyone ells - the passing judgement power still comes down to voting - a pole will be opened after the Defence and Prosecution rest there case.

In this Thread The Prosecution and Defence will present there arguments and Evidence to said arguments, The Prosecution shall be taken by Zealot, Melon you are free to chose someone that will team up to help you with your defence ( if anyone at all agrees that is) If you don't your on your own.

Will the Prosecution and Defence pleas present there positions?
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PostSubject: Re: The Last Trial of Watermelon.   The Last Trial of Watermelon. Icon_minitimeMon Aug 04, 2008 5:01 pm

Well, it's quite simple. Watermelon does nothing but blatantly trolling the site and he barely contributes.

Watermelon is culprit of spamming and trolling just as of multiple accounting. There's plenty of evidence not few members have seen.
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PostSubject: Re: The Last Trial of Watermelon.   The Last Trial of Watermelon. Icon_minitimeTue Aug 05, 2008 5:54 pm

yeah but i need a vote. like people vote on if im guilty or not guilty.

or how much bannage i get.
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PostSubject: Re: The Last Trial of Watermelon.   The Last Trial of Watermelon. Icon_minitimeTue Aug 05, 2008 6:34 pm

only how am i supposed to defend myself when he kepes banning me.
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PostSubject: Re: The Last Trial of Watermelon.   The Last Trial of Watermelon. Icon_minitimeTue Aug 05, 2008 6:36 pm

It's plain simple, you can't defend yourself, you got no arguements. I gave you the chance to defend yourself and you wasted it. It's just obvious you are a troll, as simple as that. Be careful.
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PostSubject: Re: The Last Trial of Watermelon.   The Last Trial of Watermelon. Icon_minitimeTue Aug 05, 2008 7:41 pm

Stop[ Banning him Zealot - let him try.
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PostSubject: Re: The Last Trial of Watermelon.   The Last Trial of Watermelon. Icon_minitimeTue Aug 05, 2008 7:43 pm

He requested a poll and I gave him a poll. He nulified that poll himself.

It's simply obvious that he doesn't have the slightest intention to participate in this site properly, all he wants is to troll and spam, nothing more. To have a little fun.
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PostSubject: Re: The Last Trial of Watermelon.   The Last Trial of Watermelon. Icon_minitimeWed Aug 06, 2008 7:50 pm

"all he wants is to troll and spam"

so i have a spaming problem, so? i dont just like troling, thou. so wat if i hate morality? i rely believe it is retarded. like religion. so i dont fundament sometimes, so?

its like debating someone who believes in god. theres no point of resoning with them, they are just so idioticaly blind in their faith. same with moralists.

plus my highest goal is to be posting champion. i rely want to beat matt. and stop baning me plz.
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flaccid wrote:
"all he wants is to troll and spam"

so i have a spaming problem, so?

You don't have a spamming problem, you want to spam. You choose to spam, it's voluntary.

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i dont just like troling, thou.

You troll, that means you like it.

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so wat if i hate morality? i rely believe it is retarded. like religion.

I don't care about your posture, have the one you want, the problem is how you fundament it. Anyway, in your particular case, being a person who finds morality retarded and who has not respect for others makes you act simply like an annoyance, like you're doing now. Unable to healthily coexist with others, others shall reject you.

Plain human interaction rules.


flaccid wrote:
so i dont fundament sometimes, so?

You practically never fundamet and just make a bunch of absurd statements of the kind "Marx hates morality so morality sucks lolololol".

flaccid wrote:

its like debating someone who believes in god. theres no point of resoning with them, they are just so idioticaly blind in their faith. same with moralists.

Talking about self with other words huh?

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plus my highest goal is to be posting champion. i rely want to beat matt. and stop baning me plz.

This forum won't be your playground kid.


I'll do my best to ban you unless you promise you won't post anywhere else but to where you're bein trialed. That is, you can just come in to your trial
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PostSubject: Re: The Last Trial of Watermelon.   The Last Trial of Watermelon. Icon_minitimeWed Aug 06, 2008 10:40 pm

Gents this isn't a Debate topic - Watermelon present your Position, afterwords Zealot present your evidence of your position, and then melon present his, I will look over them and then I'll delete the evidence in the post I find moot, false, or a appeal to consequences fallacious.


Any Post that will be of other nature as I said previously will be deleted
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PostSubject: Re: The Last Trial of Watermelon.   The Last Trial of Watermelon. Icon_minitimeThu Aug 07, 2008 2:47 am

i agree to be a defence attorney for melon that is if he wants me to?
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PostSubject: Re: The Last Trial of Watermelon.   The Last Trial of Watermelon. Icon_minitimeThu Aug 07, 2008 5:52 am

I'd be willing to aswell, maybe both me and enviro?
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PostSubject: Re: The Last Trial of Watermelon.   The Last Trial of Watermelon. Icon_minitimeThu Aug 07, 2008 6:18 am

Liche wrote:
I'd be willing to aswell, maybe both me and enviro?

Must be challenging to be the attorney of someone who comitted a crime while on court.
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PostSubject: Re: The Last Trial of Watermelon.   The Last Trial of Watermelon. Icon_minitimeThu Aug 07, 2008 2:54 pm

yea, that's why we should both do it. I offered just because I know how to let him stay, I'm use to being the defendant's attorney :-D the only reason I don't want to be a lawyer is every one thinks I'm a Jew (no offense, I'm just proud of my heritage, and I don't want to be confused with another) every one says I would be a good one to.
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Liche wrote:
yea, that's why we should both do it. I offered just because I know how to let him stay, I'm use to being the defendant's attorney :-D the only reason I don't want to be a lawyer is every one thinks I'm a Jew (no offense, I'm just proud of my heritage, and I don't want to be confused with another) every one says I would be a good one to.

Good luck defending the undefendable.
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PostSubject: Re: The Last Trial of Watermelon.   The Last Trial of Watermelon. Icon_minitimeThu Aug 07, 2008 5:04 pm

ill help, sorta i mean, i do know some of his good deeds, man liche pm for some talk about this
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PostSubject: Re: The Last Trial of Watermelon.   The Last Trial of Watermelon. Icon_minitimeThu Aug 07, 2008 9:00 pm

im here but he keeps baning when i dont post anything at all
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im here but he keeps baning when i dont post anything at all

Prevention is important with guys like you. I was settling the forum so that you wouldn't be able to cause trouble while in trial.
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PostSubject: Re: The Last Trial of Watermelon.   The Last Trial of Watermelon. Icon_minitimeThu Aug 07, 2008 10:18 pm

OK I'm starting to get a bit tick - Either of you 3 ( melon, envi, Liche) Are planing to post a Actual POSITION?
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PostSubject: Re: The Last Trial of Watermelon.   The Last Trial of Watermelon. Icon_minitimeFri Aug 08, 2008 5:56 am

I have.

any ways I'll do it again


Some of the convictions against matt (watermelon who ever the fuk I'm defending) can not be proven true. Also, Zealot deleted most of the evidence, so he can't prove a lot of the accusations made against melon. So we need to wait for Kenzu before we can take any further action against him. Plus, lately the only reason he has been duping accounts is to try and defend himself, but before he has the chance Zealot bans him.
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Liche wrote:


Also, Zealot deleted most of the evidence, so he can't prove a lot of the accusations made against melon.

Mein Göttsenbild... I didn't erase anything. The problem is that there's too much evidence to post it so I'm trying to choose the most relevant examples.

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So we need to wait for Kenzu before we can take any further action against him.

What do you need Kenzu for? I actually have the same powers he has except he can revoke mine and I can't revoke his. I was named administrator by him so that I could cover his functions while away.

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Plus, lately the only reason he has been duping accounts is to try and defend himself, but before he has the chance Zealot bans him.

That's false. He was given chance to defend himself yet he kept spamming. Now he has TWO unbanned accounts which nonethelss have restricted access only to Trial and introductory forums.
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Actually its 4 right about now
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Actually its 4 right about now

I'm pretty sure I just left 2 unbanned.
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also as you see, some of watermelons spam has actually been turned to good discussions, and even tho he thinks he knows everything, he does post intelectual posts. i think that i need a week with him in the green place so i can maybe teach him, as you see i changed maybe i can change him, and plus look i mean liche is right you have no proof. but did you delete any of his good posts, i think not!
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PostSubject: Re: The Last Trial of Watermelon.   The Last Trial of Watermelon. Icon_minitimeFri Aug 08, 2008 9:02 pm

Gentlemen, let me insist that I'm a communist and, at least on this site, we're under democratic communist rule. We communists have attorneys for breakfast and as snack prior to each meal.


enviro wrote:
also as you see, some of watermelons spam has actually been turned to good discussions.

Making a post go off-topic isn't that hard is it? Seriously, even some of calinis' posts have evolved gradually into interesting discussions. I can open a thread entitled "Diapers are a symbol of imperialism" putting first post as "Huggies destroys Iraq" and it can evolve into a really good debate. It can, but there are chances it won't. After evolving, the tread and post become worth-keeping but the thread and post per se are not worth keeping and may well deserve elimination if they don't evolve.

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and even tho he thinks he knows everything, he does post intelectual posts.

Oh really? His trawlerism is obvious. He tries to always unavoidably tie communism with ammorality and fundament that with his own interpretation of dialectic materialism, sometimes in very aggressive ways.

He won't pay attention to others' posts and will keep repeating what he said previously but with different words.

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i think that i need a week with him in the green place so i can maybe teach him, as you see i changed maybe i can change him,

Yeah make moral the immoral guy, that would destroy him.

enviro wrote:


and plus look i mean liche is right you have no proof. but did you delete any of his good posts, i think not!

You want proof? Here it comes:

Giving advice on how to create alternative accounts:

Watermelon wrote:
DOnt deleat tehm. Clainas is being unfarely aprest like nillers was. nillers was a straight up G.

Clainas if your reding this, make a new email on gmail. then use a proxy to come here and registar a new acont. then go to your email. it wil have a activation link. copy it and paste it in the proxy. then you have your alt acont. bingo. just use the proxy to use it.

Look at his way to argue:

Watermelon wrote:
You believe in countries? YOure a national socialist? *gasp* your arianpouers alt acount!!!!!!!!! ban this motherfucker now!!!!!!!!!

Giving foundation to arguements:

Watermelon wrote:
"Since our premise is that we're all equaly worthy, that we should work for each other, that we should contribute according to our capacity and consume according to our need, we're inherently settling a set of moral codes"

ONly idealists have that premise, i.e. not Marxists.

"And now, our goals as a communist society: thrive, help each other survive, develop as a society with no economical interests' problems, without wars. If we're going to be equal and we're going to be organised it's for a reason."

Lol @ liberal kiddie."help each other thrive" what a load of BS

"Everything has a premise, a basis, well almost everything but your logic apparently."

There is no moral reason why communism should exist. Communism will inevitably exist. ENd.

Watermelon wrote:
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Im going to create a new thread on hierarchy and why I think it should be abolished.


idealist moralism.

Watermelon wrote:
1 us superts dictaterships and oposees democracy unles it serves them
2 fredom contries hate us.
19 sexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


i hate you and you ess ayy!

Watermelon wrote:
30 shud be the maximum voting age. whence pepul are old, therefore they are stupid and i hate them.

Watermelon wrote:
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I suggest you read Kenzu’s FAQ



your dad is on this forum? this can only mene one thing-calinis!

Watermelon wrote:
false. everything i say is sacred. for i am karl marx returned from teh graive.


There's tons... want to check them? Just enter Watermelon's profile and click "Find all posts by Watermelon".

Evidence on some accounts-
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