Ron Paul FTW ^-^

mononokifool wrote:

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

RedSoviet wrote:

i hate USA the most and you all know it, but if we see the USA's politicans ... then he is the best choise, he is agains war, all war agains irak and afghanistan war he is VERY neutral and isnt partial, he was the 1 in the USA who says that every normall human would see that georgia stared the war, and he is against NATO

I want USA to attack Iran, Venezuela and Mexico simultaneously.

WELLL isreal is getting ready to attack Iran which will make USA have to get invovled AND pakistan is threatening to go into Aphganistan and fight american troops there. If Pakistan does that then India will go to war with pakistan in support of America which will cause a major world war.

Really? Or just kiddin?

I get that pakistan wants to help Afghansitan and that India will attack Pakistan, but Isreal ready to attack Iran?
that would destroy my respect for Isreal!

they have had leadership change and they are warning it. And yeah America just sold them a shitload of missles in preperation for it

mononokifool wrote:

they have had leadership change

Who? Isreal?

Ron Paul, a market anarchist, the wet dream of the most extremist capitalists. A guy that knows USA is in no condition to keep fucking around in the world.

CoolKidX wrote:

mononokifool wrote:

they have had leadership change

Who? Isreal?

No i was takling about Pakistan in that one, but this missles is about Isreal. They already came to america asking for help but the government turned them down

Damm Isreal is losing it, srsly if they attack Iran with there tiny army(but powerful ) Iran will call an a Jihad or something, and like evry muslim there will have an AK-47 killin i bet, just civilians with guns :O

Were'd you know that actully?

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I want USA to crumble and that would for sure make USA crumble. But it's not going to happen, at least not simultaneously.

oh i get it now

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He is not neutral at all, as i have stated he is very much in favor of big business. He wants to get rid of minimum wage, he is the enimy of the proletariat. He is the absolute worse choice out of other bad choices. I would never support a capitalist no mater how liberal they were

he is neutral, more nuetral then switzerland ever was, and he is not an enemy, he is for total freedom of speech

he is the best choise, would you prefer McCain or what?

CoolKidX wrote:

Damm Isreal is losing it, srsly if they attack Iran with there tiny army(but powerful ) Iran will call an a Jihad or something, and like evry muslim there will have an AK-47 killin i bet, just civilians with guns :O

Were'd you know that actully?

if israel would attack the would be crushed like a pice of shit, this little small stolen country, already the hisbollah (the paramilitäry) of libanon with iran support have over 11.000 rockets and iran... lets say it soo... israel would burn to ash

CoolKidX wrote:

Damm Isreal is losing it, srsly if they attack Iran with there tiny army(but powerful ) Iran will call an a Jihad or something, and like evry muslim there will have an AK-47 killin i bet, just civilians with guns :O

Jihad is a great response against Crusades, you infidel. Allahu Akhbar! Long live Marx! And any country East of Berlin, East of Israel, West of Japan and South of USA and south of Italy! We'll crush your G-7! The seas will turn red! This is the anarcho-muslim-communist anti-reagan JIhad!

I hope you understood the sarcasm....

If Israel attacks Iran, Iran will probably try launching its Shahabs against US bases and Israel causing not much damage. Iran will enter Iraq and it will be harder for USA to do anything. Israel may use nuclear weapons if the things get too bad.

CoolKidX wrote:

Were'd you know that actully?

Look it up.

So are we talking in terms of Republicans only? If not, even the reformist SPUSA are probably a better option.
In terms of Republicans, perhaps Huckabee, though I think there's someone even better than him. Why? To piss people off.

Iran have over 12 million man under weapons the army over nerly 600.000 and the paramilitäry 12million...

its imposible to win a war in Iran by 1 country

and dont forgett Iran have C-weapons

RedSoviet wrote:

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I want USA to crumble and that would for sure make USA crumble. But it's not going to happen, at least not simultaneously.

oh i get it now

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He is not neutral at all, as i have stated he is very much in favor of big business. He wants to get rid of minimum wage, he is the enimy of the proletariat. He is the absolute worse choice out of other bad choices. I would never support a capitalist no mater how liberal they were

he is neutral, more nuetral then switzerland ever was, and he is not an enemy, he is for total freedom of speech

he is the best choise, would you prefer McCain or what?

dude, i fucking live here. I have heard his speaches and met his people. He is not neutral why cant you understand that. the only people that support him here is rich white people becuase he only cares about the market. Do you not understand what that is? The market is the exact thing communist want to overthrow. If he came to power im sure that anothre MacCarthy era would start again because he is so radicly for the market. He is our enimy in its purest form.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=69387§ionid=351020104
http://news.antiwar.com/2008/09/15/officials-pakistani-troops-fired-on-us-helicopters-trying-to-cross-border/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26735196/

Stos wrote:

So are we talking in terms of Republicans only? If not, even the reformist SPUSA are probably a better option.
In terms of Republicans, perhaps Huckabee, though I think there's someone even better than him. Why? To piss people off.

I keep my stance. I want a warmongering hillbilly or redneck who wants to invade half of the world making USA crumble.

HELL NO! WE DON'T WANT A NEW WORLD WAR 3! omg realize it... and what will happened after the war? USA will be become the new Germany, and then after the war the rest of the world will blame America for everything, and America will feel let down by the rest of the world, in the beginning they will feel blamed for everything, and extremist groups will grove like communism, socialism and anarchism witch is a good thing but here it will just lead to chaos, because the people want the old world back where everything were "nice" in their eyes, conservative and nationalists groups will grove, and soon those groups will fight for power, the people will be naive enough to choose the nationalists because they see the leftist as the "EVIL" like the old propoganda, and then we will have new Nazi Germany.....

but the point it WHO THE HELL WANTS A WAR..... best way is ALWAYS DEMOCRACY, even though its very unfair... but war...

Tyrlop wrote:

best way is ALWAYS DEMOCRACY, even though its very unfair... but war...

It is, but very unfairly?
How so?

War is horrible, one of the many spawns of social inequality and a conflictive social mentality. If we treated each other like brothers and sisters there would be no war.

mononokifool wrote:

RedSoviet wrote:

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I want USA to crumble and that would for sure make USA crumble. But it's not going to happen, at least not simultaneously.

oh i get it now

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He is not neutral at all, as i have stated he is very much in favor of big business. He wants to get rid of minimum wage, he is the enimy of the proletariat. He is the absolute worse choice out of other bad choices. I would never support a capitalist no mater how liberal they were

he is neutral, more nuetral then switzerland ever was, and he is not an enemy, he is for total freedom of speech

he is the best choise, would you prefer McCain or what?

dude, i fucking live here. I have heard his speaches and met his people. He is not neutral why cant you understand that. the only people that support him here is rich white people becuase he only cares about the market. Do you not understand what that is? The market is the exact thing communist want to overthrow. If he came to power im sure that anothre MacCarthy era would start again because he is so radicly for the market. He is our enimy in its purest form.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=69387§ionid=351020104
http://news.antiwar.com/2008/09/15/officials-pakistani-troops-fired-on-us-helicopters-trying-to-cross-border/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26735196/

lol what with that news links

enyway, he is neutrally why you cant understand this, i researched on him for many years and hear a lot of his speeches, he is the best choise for USA by the assortment of the outher candidates, what is importanter? the market in the USA or the fucking influence of the USA in the WORLD!

i choose the world

The existence of the US is a more important issue, IMO.

Stos wrote:

The existence of the US is a more important issue, IMO.

The way it exissts determines its interaction with the world and its interaction with the world can determine its existance.

Red... in which cases is Paul neautral?

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

Stos wrote:

The existence of the US is a more important issue, IMO.

The way it exissts determines its interaction with the world and its interaction with the world can determine its existance.

Red... in which cases is Paul neautral?

in nerly all, politic, country relations etc.

RedSoviet wrote:

in nerly all, politic, country relations etc.

But mononokifool is proving he isn't...

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

RedSoviet wrote:

in nerly all, politic, country relations etc.

But mononokifool is proving he isn't...

lol proving?

he prove shit man, and in the USA you cant find a more neutral politican

RedSoviet wrote:

lol proving?

he prove shit man, and in the USA you cant find a more neutral politican

In politics he's an ultra-capitalist making him no neutral.
He supports that the International Court can't have jurisdiction over US troops meaning he does not accept international criticism of US troops' actions.
He supported the attack on Afghanistan.

In appearance he is less interventionist than others, but I wouldn't be that sure.

-he dont support any war
-you can be what ever you like, and be neutral
-he voted agains the irak war and wnts to send all troops back i mean ALL! from all bases like germany, japan, philipines etc.
-he is politicl neutral on global plain

RedSoviet wrote:

-he dont support any war

Quote :

Later in 2001, Paul voted to authorize the president, pursuant to WPR, to respond to those responsible for the September 11, 2001, attacks.

He supported the attack on Afghanistan.

RedSoviet wrote:

-you can be what ever you like, and be neutral

Like you can be a neutral nazi?

RedSoviet wrote:

-he voted agains the irak war and wnts to send all troops back i mean ALL! from all bases like germany, japan, philipines etc.

My bet is that he just wants to cut down expenditures.

RedSoviet wrote:

-he is politicl neutral on global plain

Apparently, but I don't think in practice.