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PostSubject: Chavez Loses Constitutional Vote   Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:47 pm

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8T9PU500&show_article=1

It's pitiful that he lost, when the victory was so close! If he had won Venezuela would become more socialist, afterall he would expand social securities for many million people and if he recieved more powers he could have transformed the country into a socialist paradise much faster than what he can do now.
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PostSubject: Re: Chavez Loses Constitutional Vote   Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:52 am

Well comrade, I think I have to disagree artially with you.

While indeed Chavez has provided the majourity of Venezuelans with a higher social security than the one they used to count with before, his whole political agenda is far from Socialist, and if it can be called "Socialist" it is pretty mediocre.

For example, within those changes he would expropiate individual households and accomodate 3 individuals (an average family) per room on each household. While I don't disagree with expropiation of households, I think it is a very mediocre attempt to provide people with housing. It will indeed give home to many homeless Venezuelans, which are the most beneficiated and will indeed affect te interests, probably, of most Venezuelans which posses a household of their own, specially of higher economical status. It is, though, a terribly mediocre attempt to provide individuals with housing:

1. Many Venezuelans posses a household of their own. Let's devide it this way:

Owners/Inhabitants of households with 3 or more rooms
Owners/Inhabitants of households with two rooms
Owners/Inhabitants of households with one room
Homeless

Obviously those possesing 3 or more rooms solely for their family will feel themselves attacked and negativel affected by these policies just as well as those with 2 rooms.

Families living in one room households will have their situation stagnating

Homeless will be benefitted.

Individuals living in one room households will find themselves negatively affected.

Overall a majourity of Venezuelan population would be negatively affected.

2. Allocating 3 persons per room will imply the elimination of intimacy for many.

What should be done is that more households are created instead of filling up the ones that exist already. If you have 3 chairs and 9 people you build 6 extra chairs, not sit two people over each sitting person.

That just focusing on one of the aspects of consitutional reform.

Other basic reasons for why Chavez's "socialism" is mediocre is that it's keeping capitalism for economy.

Repeating the mistakes regimes like the one of USSR or Cuba did will eventually represent a higher hindrance to revolution and the buildup of socialism in Venezuela than even some reactionary groups or USA.
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PostSubject: Re: Chavez Loses Constitutional Vote   Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:08 pm

chaves is insane
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PostSubject: Re: Chavez Loses Constitutional Vote   Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:36 am

No Kenzu, it might have made Venezuela more socialist, but he could just as easily ask the people to place a crown on his head!!! I think venezuela is already as strict as it needs to be.
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