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Tyrong Kojy
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PostSubject: Re: Murder   Murder - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Dec 09, 2008 7:29 am

Thank you, Zeal.

Seriously, just look at the numbers. Five minutes of google research. Statistically, even though fewer kids ride the subways alone than go to church alone, taking that into account, they're still safer on the subway.
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PostSubject: Re: Murder   Murder - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 10, 2008 10:50 pm

Tyrong Kojy wrote:
And it certainly won't stop child rape. Child pornography? Maybe, since it's not profitabe, but there would still be such. And the rapes themselves.

Statistically a child is safer alone on a subway than alone in a church.

That's my point!
No matter how socialist a society will be and how high the living standard of all people, there will be always a small group of mental psychopaths, who will do such horrible things.
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PostSubject: Re: Murder   Murder - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 10, 2008 10:53 pm

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Liche wrote:

I'd like too see those statistics (not being pro-religious just this seems absurd to me).

I completelly concur with Tyrong-Kojy. To prove his point it would be as simple as contrasting the ammount of kids raped in metro stations versus the amount of kids raped in churches.


all right, I'd say thats fair evidence.
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PostSubject: Re: Murder   Murder - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 10, 2008 11:51 pm

Kenzu wrote:
Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
Kenzu wrote:

Theft can be understood as a result of harsh capitalism, rape and murder cannot. (Most murderers know their victims and plan for it out of many different reasons: Jealousy, hate, greed)

Kenzu. Please. Do NOT make me laugh insanely for my own benefit. The reason WHY most rapes and murders happen is because of the fucking society those people are forced to live in. They are not educated enough to seek an more peaceful alternative way, thus they resort to basic human instinct within an evil society. And what is that?

I'll give you a hint. Cho and his 22 pistol did NOT just murder over 30 students for the "hell" of it.

What you are giving me is indeed a murder which resulted from a problematic school system, HOWEVER most murders happen with people that know each other very well. Of course some happen because of capitalism and a bad society, but many happen because of the very nature of people who get angry easily and are controlled by jealousy.

And rape is something that even socialism cannot do much about. Higher security will not do much change. Most women raped aren't raped by strangers, but by their exboyfriends and current friends\boyfriends. Rape with strangers accounts to something like 3% of all cases.

no it's just 3% of convicted cases 70% cases are never charged becuse the woman is eithere too afraid or she just dosn'T know who the fuck it was.
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PostSubject: Re: Murder   Murder - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Dec 11, 2008 12:17 am

And either way, a government change will not effect it. A woman who's afraid then is not going to feel safe when ALL her neighbours know about it, too. Well,a fraid usually is't the right term, even. ASHAMED is more akin to it.
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