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PostSubject: new Marxist president in europe   new Marxist president in europe Icon_minitimeWed Feb 27, 2008 12:23 pm

yes Dimitris Christofias won the election in Cyprus, a country torn between Greece and Turkey, will he make a social paradise between the 2 nation or will he be another nobody president in europe ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitris_Christofias
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PostSubject: Re: new Marxist president in europe   new Marxist president in europe Icon_minitimeThu Feb 28, 2008 3:05 am

I don't know about a social paradise but he'll certainly be an improvement.
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PostSubject: Re: new Marxist president in europe   new Marxist president in europe Icon_minitimeThu Feb 28, 2008 4:05 am

According to the Wiki article he described the collapse of the Soviet Union as a "crime against humanity". Personally, my trust of him is slight at best.
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PostSubject: Re: new Marxist president in europe   new Marxist president in europe Icon_minitimeThu Feb 28, 2008 8:38 am

Renegade_Kautsky wrote:
According to the Wiki article he described the collapse of the Soviet Union as a "crime against humanity"

Makes sense.
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PostSubject: Re: new Marxist president in europe   new Marxist president in europe Icon_minitimeThu Feb 28, 2008 10:10 am

oligarch wrote:
Renegade_Kautsky wrote:
According to the Wiki article he described the collapse of the Soviet Union as a "crime against humanity"

Makes sense.

A Trotskyist (true Leninist) would have seen the end of the Soviet Union coming. The fact that the to-be president of Cyprus thinks that the collapse of the State-Capitalist monster of the Soviet Union was a bad thing, puts him right next to Stalin in my eyes. Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: new Marxist president in europe   new Marxist president in europe Icon_minitimeFri Feb 29, 2008 2:45 am

Renegade_Kautsky wrote:
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According to the Wiki article he described the collapse of the Soviet Union as a "crime against humanity"

Makes sense.

A Trotskyist (true Leninist) would have seen the end of the Soviet Union coming. The fact that the to-be president of Cyprus thinks that the collapse of the State-Capitalist monster of the Soviet Union was a bad thing, puts him right next to Stalin in my eyes. Evil or Very Mad

It depends entirely on what context it was said in. Of course the collapse of the Soviet Union was predictable but still a victory for capitalism.
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PostSubject: Re: new Marxist president in europe   new Marxist president in europe Icon_minitimeFri Feb 29, 2008 7:38 am

Wow because of my watered down American media I have just heard of this. Thanks for the post (pretty interesting).
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yes Dimitris Christofias won the election in Cyprus, a country torn between Greece and Turkey, will he make a social paradise between the 2 nation or will he be another nobody president in europe ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitris_Christofias
how did he win?
isn´t cyprus manly turkish,geek and brits?
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mattabesta wrote:
Ryom wrote:
yes Dimitris Christofias won the election in Cyprus, a country torn between Greece and Turkey, will he make a social paradise between the 2 nation or will he be another nobody president in europe ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitris_Christofias
how did he win?
isn´t cyprus manly turks,greeks and brits?
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PostSubject: Re: new Marxist president in europe   new Marxist president in europe Icon_minitimeSat Mar 01, 2008 1:19 am

Not really that interesting, since its Cyprus and not say, Italy.

Still, its nice to see a variety of leaders.
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PostSubject: Re: new Marxist president in europe   new Marxist president in europe Icon_minitimeSat Mar 01, 2008 4:48 am

mattabesta wrote:
Ryom wrote:
yes Dimitris Christofias won the election in Cyprus, a country torn between Greece and Turkey, will he make a social paradise between the 2 nation or will he be another nobody president in europe ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitris_Christofias
how did he win?
isn´t cyprus manly turkish,geek and brits?

Mostly, and they're communists.
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oligarch wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
Ryom wrote:
yes Dimitris Christofias won the election in Cyprus, a country torn between Greece and Turkey, will he make a social paradise between the 2 nation or will he be another nobody president in europe ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitris_Christofias
how did he win?
isn´t cyprus manly turkish,geek and brits?

Mostly, and they're communists.
well someone has to be.
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mattabesta wrote:
oligarch wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
Ryom wrote:
yes Dimitris Christofias won the election in Cyprus, a country torn between Greece and Turkey, will he make a social paradise between the 2 nation or will he be another nobody president in europe ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitris_Christofias
how did he win?
isn´t cyprus manly turkish,geek and brits?

Mostly, and they're communists.
well someone has to be.

Logically thinking people.
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oligarch wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
oligarch wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
Ryom wrote:
yes Dimitris Christofias won the election in Cyprus, a country torn between Greece and Turkey, will he make a social paradise between the 2 nation or will he be another nobody president in europe ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitris_Christofias
how did he win?
isn´t cyprus manly turkish,geek and brits?

Mostly, and they're communists.
well someone has to be.

Logically thinking people.
more like newly out of war island.
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mattabesta wrote:
oligarch wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
oligarch wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
Ryom wrote:
yes Dimitris Christofias won the election in Cyprus, a country torn between Greece and Turkey, will he make a social paradise between the 2 nation or will he be another nobody president in europe ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitris_Christofias
how did he win?
isn´t cyprus manly turkish,geek and brits?

Mostly, and they're communists.
well someone has to be.

Logically thinking people.
more like newly out of war island.

So peoples who have had wars can not think logically?
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germany is a very good exampel.
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germany is a very good exampel.

And what's your reasoning behind that? I've met some Germans and they can think extremely logically, MUCH MORE SO than most Asian (emotional LULS) and definitely most Americans (superiority complex, no wars in last 100 years, "world police", DOUBLE LULZ).

Nearly ALL Germans I have met do not want ANY war, but unfortunately, because of that prick Hitler and just like how Russia and China are demonized by the West constantly, the Germans are mostly seen as "Nazis".

In fact, you're simply buying into the capitalistic propaganda that "Germany is still Nazis" and "America ist best".
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the jerrys are a hard working people, they are nice and friendly, altho the road side dinners make terrible ¨Food¨ i have nothing else to say bad about them Smile
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PostSubject: Re: new Marxist president in europe   new Marxist president in europe Icon_minitimeMon Mar 03, 2008 1:32 am

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
germany is a very good exampel.

And what's your reasoning behind that? I've met some Germans and they can think extremely logically, MUCH MORE SO than most Asian (emotional LULS) and definitely most Americans (superiority complex, no wars in last 100 years, "world police", DOUBLE LULZ).

Nearly ALL Germans I have met do not want ANY war, but unfortunately, because of that prick Hitler and just like how Russia and China are demonized by the West constantly, the Germans are mostly seen as "Nazis".

In fact, you're simply buying into the capitalistic propaganda that "Germany is still Nazis" and "America ist best".
I know
but the germans overlooked hitlers hate of jews and his idears of a supirior race.
I've met lots of german pepole.
hell my sister is half german.
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@ Mattbesta: Then why didn't you say so? *shrugs* oh well...anyways, to answer your question...

Many Germans overlooked the fact that Hitler was a bad guy simply because he promised to bring Germany from the ashes. Back then, Germany was in complete shambles. The Treaty of Paris guarenteed that Germany would be an oppressed nation forever. People back then had to wheel in BARRELFULS of money just to get bread. Hitler, the nationalistic guy he was, promised the German public that he would bring Germany back to greatness again. At first, he did. Hitler gave the German people cars (called Volkswagen), a decent standard of living, and free education for all.

Then he goes from good boy to bad boy by blaming the Jews. Reason?

The Jews are rich. Rich people are always scorned.

The Jews are STILL rich as hell today, backed by the United States. Hell, they EVEN have their own "country" called Israeli, which was ORIGINALLY Palelestinian. I honestly hold no sympathy to the Jews. They, despite 12 million of them killed by Hitler's SS and insanity, still go angry over every little thing that Germany does, leading the US to basically DEMAND Germany to apologize on the spot.

Now compare that to the Asian holocuast, committed by the Imperialist Japanese, who were supported by the Americans after the war, guarenteeing China and Korea (and all the way to the Dutch Islands) not a SINGLE chance to uncover the war crimes. Even today, Japan fully enjoys their booming economy, while not even having the balls to face their dark past. Thank the US-Japan "alliance" for that.

Fancy that. =|

lol, how did this go from president to Hitler? XD lol

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LULZ! That's pretty shocking and sad. Japanese Americans forced to pledge "alligance" to the flag under the Hitler salute. Sad...just sad...
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Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
@ Mattbesta: Then why didn't you say so? *shrugs* oh well...anyways, to answer your question...

Many Germans overlooked the fact that Hitler was a bad guy simply because he promised to bring Germany from the ashes. Back then, Germany was in complete shambles. The Treaty of Paris guarenteed that Germany would be an oppressed nation forever. People back then had to wheel in BARRELFULS of money just to get bread. Hitler, the nationalistic guy he was, promised the German public that he would bring Germany back to greatness again. At first, he did. Hitler gave the German people cars (called Volkswagen), a decent standard of living, and free education for all.

Then he goes from good boy to bad boy by blaming the Jews. Reason?

The Jews are rich. Rich people are always scorned.

The Jews are STILL rich as hell today, backed by the United States. Hell, they EVEN have their own "country" called Israeli, which was ORIGINALLY Palelestinian. I honestly hold no sympathy to the Jews. They, despite 12 million of them killed by Hitler's SS and insanity, still go angry over every little thing that Germany does, leading the US to basically DEMAND Germany to apologize on the spot.

Now compare that to the Asian holocuast, committed by the Imperialist Japanese, who were supported by the Americans after the war, guarenteeing China and Korea (and all the way to the Dutch Islands) not a SINGLE chance to uncover the war crimes. Even today, Japan fully enjoys their booming economy, while not even having the balls to face their dark past. Thank the US-Japan "alliance" for that.

Fancy that. =|

lol, how did this go from president to Hitler? XD lol

@Oligarch:

LULZ! That's pretty shocking and sad. Japanese Americans forced to pledge "alligance" to the flag under the Hitler salute. Sad...just sad...
the asian holacust was 20million chines/korean dead.
the jewis was 6million.
the mass extermanation of the soviet nations was 12million
how come the smallest is the most famus?

hiler promesd a good econamy and he made it.
germany was very strong at it's hight.
hitler also brought wealth to all of the european nations but britan.
lots of pepole got jobs with the army.
paving roads making airfeilds, and all kinds of useless stuff.
iceland was one of the few cuntries in europe to make an extensive profit from the war.
each icelander got 250 dollars in marchall aid althought the only casultyes here were those who the americans shot accsedentally(and none).

britan and frace can blame themselvs for WWII they punished the germans too hard.
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hitler also brought wealth to all of the european nations but britan.
your shitting me right ? not only did they take danish jobs and gave them to germans, they also almost ruined the danish economy
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Ryom wrote:
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hitler also brought wealth to all of the european nations but britan.
your shitting me right ? not only did they take danish jobs and gave them to germans, they also almost ruined the danish economy
money cant replace tortured lives back
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Ryom wrote:
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hitler also brought wealth to all of the european nations but britan.
your shitting me right ? not only did they take danish jobs and gave them to germans, they also almost ruined the danish economy
money cant replace tortured lives back
true.
but ww2 did help the econamy
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