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PostSubject: Most well read in Marxist theory ?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:13 am

Who is the most well read or experienced Marxist in the world republic ?

I have been dabateing an American economist on Marxism for a while now he fails to see sence.

Who is good at debate on this forum ? - Zelot k........ ? I think he could help.

This debate is not for amatures.
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PostSubject: Re: Most well read in Marxist theory ?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:16 am

At economics I am very very good. Not other things but economics yes definitely.
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PostSubject: Re: Most well read in Marxist theory ?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:18 am

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At economics I am very very good. Not other things but economics yes definitely.

Do you have a youtube account ?
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PostSubject: Re: Most well read in Marxist theory ?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:21 am

yeh but I can't make videso for it. WHat is your name on youtube?

edit: hello? ne1 there?
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PostSubject: Re: Most well read in Marxist theory ?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:32 am

Pannekoek wrote:
yeh but I can't make videso for it. WHat is your name on youtube?

Inkus2000 is my youtube also

At the moment he is arguing that social stratification is part of human nature - I am arguing that it is not since many Anthropologists have observed that stratification does not exist in hunter gatherer society.

Economics is his strong point and the debate sure to go in that direction - he would be more than happy to attack Marx's economic theories given the chance - can you defend Marxist economics ?

Its just a thread - no vidios
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PostSubject: Re: Most well read in Marxist theory ?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:34 am

Mark is my bet - not only he read the books, but arbiter like approaches them.


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PostSubject: Re: Most well read in Marxist theory ?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:37 am

Cyprian Uljanow wrote:
Mark is my bet - nto only he read the books, but arbiter like approaches them.

who is mark ?
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PostSubject: Re: Most well read in Marxist theory ?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:38 am

MarxsistFreeman
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PostSubject: Re: Most well read in Marxist theory ?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:39 am

Cyprian Uljanow wrote:
MarxsistFreeman

He is good but lacks patience

Zealot_Kommunizma ?
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PostSubject: Re: Most well read in Marxist theory ?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:54 am

NO. Anyone but zealot. I can help you if you answer this question: What the bleep is stratification?

EDIT: i sent your Utube account the following message: "a wud up g"
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PostSubject: Re: Most well read in Marxist theory ?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:58 am

Pannekoek wrote:
NO. Anyone but zealot. I can help you if you answer this question: What the bleep is stratification?


The hierarchical arrangement of social classes.
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PostSubject: Re: Most well read in Marxist theory ?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:58 am

Umm.. hello? Primitive communism.
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PostSubject: Re: Most well read in Marxist theory ?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:04 am

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Umm.. hello? Primitive communism.

You have to back yourself up with evidence ect Dont worry about the human nature end of it anyway.

whats wrong the zelot ?

is he not wise ? is his mind not pure ?
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PostSubject: Re: Most well read in Marxist theory ?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:37 am

Evindence? Is history not good enough? Zealot I believe is a reformist.
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PostSubject: Re: Most well read in Marxist theory ?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:01 am

Pannekoek wrote:
Evindence? Is history not good enough? Zealot I believe is a reformist.

You can help if you can give a satisfactory answer this question and then back yourself up.

If Marx was correct about bourgeoisie logic being invalid when defending Marxism - is Marxism itself invalid ? - considering Marx was of the bourgeoisie himself.
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PostSubject: Re: Most well read in Marxist theory ?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:50 am

how the hell would this be run?

like I record myself giving a lecture and put it up and then you do the same on youtube?

or do i have no idea what you were talking about

and I am pretty sure that Emy and I are the only Marxist Revolutionaries on the site...
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PostSubject: Re: Most well read in Marxist theory ?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:05 am

inkus2000 wrote:
Pannekoek wrote:
Evindence? Is history not good enough? Zealot I believe is a reformist.

You can help if you can give a satisfactory answer this question and then back yourself up.

If Marx was correct about bourgeoisie logic being invalid when defending Marxism - is Marxism itself invalid ? - considering Marx was of the bourgeoisie himself.

Marx was really only petty bourgeois and as he said, a portion of the ruling class always brakes off and aligns itself with the proletariat.
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PostSubject: Re: Most well read in Marxist theory ?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:22 am

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inkus2000 wrote:
Pannekoek wrote:
Evindence? Is history not good enough? Zealot I believe is a reformist.

You can help if you can give a satisfactory answer this question and then back yourself up.

If Marx was correct about bourgeoisie logic being invalid when defending Marxism - is Marxism itself invalid ? - considering Marx was of the bourgeoisie himself.

Marx was really only petty bourgeois and as he said, a portion of the ruling class always brakes off and aligns itself with the proletariat.
there will always be class betrayals

we just can't bet on em
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PostSubject: Re: Most well read in Marxist theory ?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:20 am

Pannekoek wrote:
NO. Anyone but zealot. I can help you if you answer this question: What the bleep is stratification?

EDIT: i sent your Utube account the following message: "a wud up g"


why not zealot ?
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PostSubject: Re: Most well read in Marxist theory ?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:31 am

mattabesta wrote:
Pannekoek wrote:
NO. Anyone but zealot. I can help you if you answer this question: What the bleep is stratification?

EDIT: i sent your Utube account the following message: "a wud up g"


why not zealot ?

because we don't think he is well read in marxism?
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PostSubject: Re: Most well read in Marxist theory ?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:06 pm

Still he's a excellent theoretical - just not Marxist wise
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PostSubject: Re: Most well read in Marxist theory ?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:41 pm

Zealot is a reformite. Marx was middle class. So?
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PostSubject: Re: Most well read in Marxist theory ?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:48 pm

Pannekoek wrote:
Zealot is a reformite. Marx was middle class. So?

it's an idealist argument

I think it is a desperate attempt to discredit him especially considering that you and I are the only ones that follow it strongly...

they have always been class betrayals.


Hell if anyone understands class struggle its the bourgeoisie. How else could they work it so well?
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PostSubject: Re: Most well read in Marxist theory ?   Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:04 pm

They probably knew it first.
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PostSubject: Re: Most well read in Marxist theory ?   Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:24 am

Quote :

Marx was really only petty bourgeois and as he said, a portion of the ruling class always brakes off and aligns itself with the proletariat.

Spot on.

Marx stated that the petty bourgeois would eventually be wiped out as a class and forced to join the proletariat.
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