Kismet - Vote out due to Sabotage

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

This

kismet wrote:

CoolKidX wrote:

Why?

If they dont care about politics and shit why should they be active in there?

to antagonize

I care about politics, but there's a reason I never posted my own political views But seriously, I mainly post there just to antagonize Zealot

Combined with this:

kismet wrote:

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

Hutin wrote:

Even if everybody here is going to crucify me, yes, I'm serious.

That's too exagerated an aspiration.

you have 2 posts in a row!!!!!!! combine them or be a hypocrite!

Means obviously that persons like this user are here just to bother and hinder the site. Just like I've been saying previously, they have absolutely no interest in politics (as factually demonstrated) nor in the integrity of the site. They're merely here to cause conflict.

As of now, I will not recognize this person as a valid user nor any of her kind. The intentions of this person have been well demonstrated: her only interest here is to make intra-forum polemics.

How can their word on how to manage the site be worth when they're merely Saboteurs?

This was also pointed out by comrade110397.

As it is visible, kismet is here just as a destabilizing entity uninterested in the forum's integrity or its main tematics. Just as I sustained since the very begining.

Therefore I propose we vote here on whether she should be stripped from her condition as a normal user and thus being deprived of her voting powers.

Do you agree? Any proposal?

I agree, she does not belong in the other sections then AW.

There fore her vote should not count either,

I agree, she should be banned from all sections of the site except Aderan Wars.

Oi! someone needs to be shot here!

Seriously, that's more than enough proof that kismet is a troll. "She" is comparable to melon and calinis. In fact i grant "her" the title " Honorary melon-head"

Delete this post, please.

damn this is wierd, kenzu im afraid of you now.

Tyrlop wrote:

damn this is wierd, kenzu im afraid of you now.

This comment made me picture this scenario:

Kenzu: Hey, could you join my forum and troll it? It's just there's some guys opposing me... I'll support you!
trolltocome: sure! I love to antagonize!

Agreed

someone show kismet this thread

comrade110397 wrote:

someone show kismet this thread

If she was interested in the development of the forum she would have noticed herself already...

zealot, were you the one who changed all the info on my profile? Sad and pathetic. I had to fix it but had to remove my birthday because it said I was over 101 years old. Something's amiss with the forum settings I believe.

Also, apparently sarcasm doesn't come across very well or you have absolutely no sense of humor.

I have had a bit to say in several areas of this forum that had absolutely nothing to do with you *shock* *surprise*

I've posted several places. Like it or not. I don't agree with you so therefore you want me out? How droll.

Sabotage? What did I sabotage? Really surprised on this one. Remove my vote and Liche still won. Is that the sabotage you're claiming I've done? Antagonizing you was a nice bonus, but not the only reason I've responded to posts. Seems you just don't get over things and leave them alone or you wouldn't be bringing charges.

One statement and you're saying I should be removed..... show more proof please of TRUE SABOTAGE. I am using Spoiler tags because otherwise this would be an extremely long post.

Spoiler:

(stir things up, sure, make people think. I never disabled or crippled anyone nor did I vandalize. I did not injure or attack by any definition of "Sabotage" I did not undermine anyone's cause - since the cause on here is for education so pointed out by yourself Zealot in the link below, but I will post it here as well - NONE of my posts were underhanded or designed to interfere with conversations concerning true debate - those in the voting section would be considered OPINIONS}

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

I'd love to hear your definitions and differences between a Democracy, a Republic and a Commonwealth. - I know there are a number of commonalities, but the basic definitions from your view and where a commonwealth would exist besides England and 4 states in the USA.
Also I haven't found where you explain capitalism to socialism to communism

Something else bothered me in this:

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

zelot you and kenzu MAKE the defnition on this site so your opnion=what WR stands for.

Give at least 1 example.

He was simply stating that since you and Kenzu are the admins, you two should have been the ones to make the definition of what the site is for..

Now, considering I have not undermined ANYONE'S beliefs and myself believe that people are free to believe as they wish and not be put to death for being a capitalist and in no way have I threatened anyone on this site for any belief or their statements, you cannot prove sabotage. Trumped up charges. Jumping into a conversation in any thread where you're already discussing it means you harangue me endlessly much as you did before. So I try not to post in threads where you've posted. However much spam there is from you:

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

I less than three you BC.

Yes, that's spam. It didn't exactly contribute to the conversation, but you had to jump in and say *something* right?

https://worldrepublic.forumotion.com/proposals-f60/official-proposal-1-aim-of-the-world-republic-t2345.htm Gives examples of differing views. And that's about the AIM of the WR. Zealot, you gave a post in there about how people should be educating others on the basic concepts of each political form. Well said. I will give you that and a few others. I will also say this: I believe you to be an intelligent person who tends to be a tad over*zealous* (zealot/zealous, it works) in questioning others. Perhaps to help them define their own beliefs, perhaps to help them understand what it is they're actually believing.

What you do not know is I have medical problems. I've talked to Kenzu about this and he knows. Must I also share it now with you and everyone else or be banned forever? Apparently so. I have a herniated disc in my neck and one in my lower back. I already have a titanium cage in my neck due to a surgery in 2007 to fix 2 herniated discs. I deal with a great deal of pain on an hourly basis. My only escape is sleep, when I can actually get to sleep. I use a laptop right now because sitting in a computer chair is very painful on my lower back. I spend the majority of time in bed because of this. I am unable to be online as much as I'd like and there are days when I cannot get on and post after reading because on the pain scale (1-10 where pain is unbearable), I am at a 9, even after the strong pain medications. My mother died last July from Pancreatic Cancer. I was close to her and that really had me re-evaluating my own life and beliefs. Not necessarily on politics but religion as well (the beliefs part).

I have posted this not for sympathy, but for the lack of posts. Usually after reading for awhile, I cannot sit up longer and post. I'm limited to lifting 20 pounds. Craning my neck to look at the screen, even if it's propped up on pillows or a lapdesk severely hurts my neck, so again, I don't get to post what I'd like or as often as I like.

I spent several years in higher education. I have my degree in early childhood education with minors in history and political science.

Most of my posts have been in AW recently because they're QUICK and not as much to read. Then I scroll up and start reading, after a time of reading, I can do no more with my laptop. I'm online *all* the time, but not always on the computer. I feel I have a lot to offer this community but tragically have gotten off to a bad start.

October 17 introduced me to the forums and yes, from AW. Kenzu fixed the login problems I was having. This was long before the voting. I am transfixed and very happy that this exists. More so that people can post what they think, how they feel and others can help them tweak their beliefs with more information and history. I long ago shed the sheep factor. People should be able to form their own opinions and make up their minds about what they think and feel. I'm not saying you're changing their minds Zealot, merely giving them background and history with a scoop of your own beliefs thrown in to help clarify. Others have done this as well, but you're the one bringing the charges, so I'm focused on you at the moment. Not a single statement about you in this should be considered *bad* but helpful.

Kenzu did send a message about voting, but please, check my original login, you'll find I signed up here before all that started and I didn't vote in the first round or post my opinion because I was still getting to know people through their posts. Didn't matter that I didn't have the *votes* to actually vote. But I could have still posted my opinion.

My opinion of you in general has not changed. You're hardheaded and arrogant, not necessarily bad traits Liche is still wishy-washy and confused in general about where he's going with his life and his own beliefs. BC can still be abrasive but I understand more now that it is more his personality to be so and that's also not a bad thing. Lilith, I like you and have no argument with you, but would love to pick your brain on French Sara, I haven't really talked to you much and have seen few of your posts. I've talked to Kenzu at length on MSN and through the mail system on AW - not always about AW either, but life in general. Kenzu, I think you have some problems with asserting yourself where zealot doesn't. But I have also seen some of the debates between the two of you...

Zealot: just because someone doesn't nit-pick someone's post line-by-line doesn't mean they're not interested in the whole. Sometimes it means they agree, sometimes it's off-topic from the point they want to make (speaking of kenzu and myself on this one where I'd said "blah blah blah" on a post because I didn't want to respond to the first half of your posting).

I quit posting arguments with you for a couple of reasons. It did no good. While it was entertaining and stretched my brain for a time, it did more harm to my neck than was good for me. I've had to spend some time recuperating from being online for that period of time + the weather (darn that barometric pressure!). I didn't admit defeat, but I did apologize to you when I was wrong. I will do that and have no problem owning up to my own mistakes.

I didn't come here to be a troll. I really was thrilled to see people questioning and QUESTING to find their own paths. Sometimes playing devil's advocate can help people more than just saying "I agree." It's part of the teacher in me.

Then I started getting accused of being "melon." Without knowing the history of all that, I was offended and it seems(seemed) most of you made up your minds as soon as the accusation was made that I was here to troll and to contribute nothing.

So just because I can't post daily doesn't mean I have nothing to contribute to the rest of the site outside AW.

If this wasn't where I was supposed to post a response, please let me know and *I* can move it. Private message me but please don't move it to somewhere people won't be able to view it and make up their own minds.

This has taken me quite a while to type out. More hours than you care to know because I've had to take several breaks due to the discs. I am telling you this now about my neck because I want you to understand why I don't post daily or seriously as often as I'd like.

I do realize now that none of you take sarcasm. Apparently as well, you don't take humor. If you don't stretch your brain, you lose. Zealot had me thinking in ways I haven't had to in quite awhile. It felt good to do that brain stretching.

Kenzu suggested coming here to vote, sure he pushed Liche, but I didn't vote for Liche without knowing something about him. Most of that is through his posts and I've talked to him on MSN as well. But what you don't seem to realize is....... I was ALREADY signed up on the site!

I'm a member of a party under Lilith. I'm also part of AW and AW Generals.

I can stand it no longer, I need a pain pill and to lay down again.

I will say this on my own. I have a long memory. I may forgive some of you for voting the way you've done here, but I won't forget. The only one who might even remotely have cause to vote against me would be Zealot and perhaps BC (though I haven't brought him up much in this).

Perhaps instead of seeking such a harsh end without truly knowing me, you'd be more inclined to give a shorter (temp) ban and then re-evaluate once I come back. Many in AW also post in the rest of the forums. The majority of my posts do not come from AW.

If you need further clarification on what I've said/posted, please feel free to ask me. If this needs to be moved to another thread (such as "My defense"), please allow me to do so and I will delete this post once it's moved over.

one more request please Zealot: please, don't reply to each line individually. I'd accept your response as a whole after quoting my entire post... I promise I won't be confused. If I am, I will ask for clarification as to what point you're making.

Thank you all for your time
kismet


[edit: yes, I knew this was here, it just took me awhile to post everything because of having to do it in short bursts]

kismet wrote:

zealot, were you the one who changed all the info on my profile? Sad and pathetic. I had to fix it but had to remove my birthday because it said I was over 101 years old. Something's amiss with the forum settings I believe.

This is one of the traits I dislike the most about you: you love to jump to conclusions without informing yourself. In this case, without knowing me even slightly you immediately accuse me of something anyone around here (that is anyone familiar enough with the site and me) would know I'm incapable of doing.

Not useful, not my style, ie something stupid.

kismet wrote:

Also, apparently sarcasm doesn't come across very well or you have absolutely no sense of humor.

Given the context and the broad array of topics covered by your interventions, it was quite hard to take as sarcasm.

kismet wrote:

I have had a bit to say in several areas of this forum that had absolutely nothing to do with you *shock* *surprise*

Hm? Outside AW, most of your interventions were merely lobbying against BC and libel against me. There's the evidence and the witnesses and then you come claiming you're here mainly to antagonize me. Context doesn't favor you.

kismet wrote:

I've posted several places. Like it or not. I don't agree with you so therefore you want me out? How droll.

Funny. I won't repeat myself, plus there's a hell of evidence for my claims.

kismet wrote:

This is a witchhunt and yes CKX, I'll remember this. This forum and your support or disapproval has a lot to do with my support of you in AW.

Witchhunt? If you don't want anyone to step on your tail, don't grow one.

kismet wrote:

Sabotage? What did I sabotage? Really surprised on this one. Remove my vote and Liche still won. Is that the sabotage you're claiming I've done? Antagonizing you was a nice bonus, but not the only reason I've responded to posts. Seems you just don't get over things and leave them alone or you wouldn't be bringing charges.

If we removed all mainly AW users' votes the results would change. But this is not even relevant. With sabotage I mean that you're here for nothing but to destabilize.

kismet wrote:

(stir things up, sure, make people think. I never disabled or crippled anyone nor did I vandalize. I did not injure or attack by any definition of "Sabotage" I did not undermine anyone's cause - since the cause on here is for education so pointed out by yourself Zealot in the link below, but I will post it here as well)

Perhaps I should simply rephrase to "Attempt to Sabotage"... being here "mainly to antagonize" when employing things like libel as it's been demonstrated you do, means that you're actually attempting to destabilize here, to create conflict beyond sane discussion. Sabotage or Attempted Sabotage, just depends on whether you achieve it, either way none is acceptable.


I won't adress that quote until you put it in context.

kismet wrote:

I'd love to hear your definitions and differences between a Democracy, a Republic and a Commonwealth. - I know there are a number of commonalities, but the basic definitions from your view and where a commonwealth would exist besides England and 4 states in the USA.
Also I haven't found where you explain capitalism to socialism to communism

There's a bunch of that in Kenzu Milagro Socialist Thought.

kismet wrote:

Something else bothered me in this:

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

zelot you and kenzu MAKE the defnition on this site so your opnion=what WR stands for.

Give at least 1 example.

He was simply stating that since you and Kenzu are the admins, you two should have been the ones to make the definition of what the site is for..

I don't think so, specially taking his background into account.

kismet wrote:

Now, considering I have not undermined ANYONE'S beliefs and myself believe that people are free to believe as they wish and not be put to death for being a capitalist and in no way have I threatened anyone on this site for any belief or their statements, you cannot prove sabotage. Trumped up charges. Jumping into a conversation in any thread where you're already discussing it means you harangue me endlessly much as you did before. So I try not to post in threads where you've posted.

I adressed this point above. You intend to destabilize, therefore you attempt to hinder the integrity of the site.

kismet wrote:

However much spam there is from you:

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

I less than three you BC.

Yes, that's spam. It didn't exactly contribute to the conversation, but you had to jump in and say *something* right?

"I less than three you" is a way to say "I love you" which I said because of what BC said, I considered it awesome. Spam? Let the people judge themselves.

kismet wrote:

https://worldrepublic.forumotion.com/proposals-f60/official-proposal-1-aim-of-the-world-republic-t2345.htm Gives examples of differing views. And that's about the AIM of the WR. Zealot, you gave a post in there about how people should be educating others on the basic concepts of each political form. Well said. I will give you that and a few others. I will also say this: I believe you to be an intelligent person who tends to be a tad over*zealous* (zealot/zealous, it works) in questioning others. Perhaps to help them define their own beliefs, perhaps to help them understand what it is they're actually believing.

Yeah, that's pretty much it I wonder though what's the relevance of this here?

kismet wrote:

I have posted this not for sympathy, but for the lack of posts. Usually after reading for awhile, I cannot sit up longer and post. I'm limited to lifting 20 pounds. Craning my neck to look at the screen, even if it's propped up on pillows or a lapdesk severely hurts my neck, so again, I don't get to post what I'd like or as often as I like.

I spent several years in higher education. I have my degree in early childhood education with minors in history and political science.

Most of my posts have been in AW recently because they're QUICK and not as much to read. Then I scroll up and start reading, after a time of reading, I can do no more with my laptop. I'm online *all* the time, but not always on the computer. I feel I have a lot to offer this community but tragically have gotten off to a bad start.

I'm terribly sorry to hear about your medical conditions and other events in your life with negative implications. And indeed I'm able to understand the limitations in which these migh put you.

However, knowing your limitations, wouldn't it be much wiser to simply take your time, regardless of how much it might be, to inform yourself thoroughly and then exert your opinion? And I say this because as it's noticeable not only to me but to several other members you're definitely not familiarized enough with this forum to make well infomed opinions on the topics where you have done.

kismet wrote:

Kenzu did send a message about voting, but please, check my original login, you'll find I signed up here before all that started and I didn't vote in the first round or post my opinion because I was still getting to know people through their posts. Didn't matter that I didn't have the *votes* to actually vote. But I could have still posted my opinion.

I do know that you registered way before the votation. However, your interventions were mainly about it.


Kenzu, I think you have some problems with asserting yourself where zealot doesn't. But I have also seen some of the debates between the two of you...

Zealot: just because someone doesn't nit-pick someone's post line-by-line doesn't mean they're not interested in the whole. Sometimes it means they agree, sometimes it's off-topic from the point they want to make (speaking of kenzu and myself on this one where I'd said "blah blah blah" on a post because I didn't want to respond to the first half of your posting).[/quote]

The problem comes when by disregarding part of the post they miss important points specially when they reply as if those points had never been adressed and Kenzu does this a lot when arguing about socialism.

kismet wrote:

Then I started getting accused of being "melon." Without knowing the history of all that, I was offended and it seems(seemed) most of you made up your minds as soon as the accusation was made that I was here to troll and to contribute nothing.

I never thought you were melon nor did I ever think, prior to your intervention in the elections, that you came here to troll. I had the impression you would be just a casual poster.

kismet wrote:

So just because I can't post daily doesn't mean I have nothing to contribute to the rest of the site outside AW.

If you don't want to give such an impression, avoid contexts that allow it. That is, don't come mainly to say "BC and Zealot are badgering everyone, they're mean. I post mainly to antagonize zealot". Your posts make your reputation.

kismet wrote:

I am telling you this now about my neck because I want you to understand why I don't post daily or seriously as often as I'd like.

And I do, but then again, knowing this limitation, wouldn't it be wise to simply take more time to analyse things before jumping to conclusions and expressing them?

kismet wrote:

Kenzu suggested coming here to vote, sure he pushed Liche, but I didn't vote for Liche without knowing something about him. Most of that is through his posts and I've talked to him on MSN as well. But what you don't seem to realize is....... I was ALREADY signed up on the site!

Point adressed above.

kismet wrote:

Perhaps instead of seeking such a harsh end without truly knowing me, you'd be more inclined to give a shorter (temp) ban and then re-evaluate once I come back. Many in AW also post in the rest of the forums. The majority of my posts do not come from AW.

That's what this section is for. To clarify things and get to the best solution for interaction problems within the site. And I must say that you've engaged in a relatively neat defense which nonetheless doesn't change the fact that you created a very hostile context.

kismet wrote:

one more request please Zealot: please, don't reply to each line individually. I'd accept your response as a whole after quoting my entire post... I promise I won't be confused. If I am, I will ask for clarification as to what point you're making.

I'm sorry but what you call "replying line by line" is my unavoidable style. I can't reply to long posts without adressing them point by point.

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

This

kismet wrote:

CoolKidX wrote:

Why?

If they dont care about politics and shit why should they be active in there?

to antagonize

I care about politics, but there's a reason I never posted my own political views But seriously, I mainly post there just to antagonize Zealot

Combined with this:

kismet wrote:

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

Hutin wrote:

Even if everybody here is going to crucify me, yes, I'm serious.

That's too exagerated an aspiration.

you have 2 posts in a row!!!!!!! combine them or be a hypocrite!

Means obviously that persons like this user are here just to bother and hinder the site. Just like I've been saying previously, they have absolutely no interest in politics (as factually demonstrated) nor in the integrity of the site. They're merely here to cause conflict.

As of now, I will not recognize this person as a valid user nor any of her kind. The intentions of this person have been well demonstrated: her only interest here is to make intra-forum polemics.

How can their word on how to manage the site be worth when they're merely Saboteurs?

This was also pointed out by comrade110397.

As it is visible, kismet is here just as a destabilizing entity uninterested in the forum's integrity or its main tematics. Just as I sustained since the very begining.

Therefore I propose we vote here on whether she should be stripped from her condition as a normal user and thus being deprived of her voting powers.

Do you agree? Any proposal?

I HAVE to do this in 2 posts because to add it would be too long, so I cannot combine them.

First off, where you quoted me, do you not see the *wink* at the end? HUMOR. Smilies are all through it. Again, humor. You're taking anything and everything I say too seriously and entirely too much to heart. You seem to be looking for anything to hang me with, especially from a standpoint of HUMOR! There's sarcasm in there as well as I've stated that in another forum post that yes, I do enjoy debating you.

kismet wrote:

Instead of coming out an announcing every time, why doesn't this person just lay low? This is a game to him/her. Not anything serious.

What about not banning, but just deleting every post made?

Leads to frustration more than having fun with names and making new accounts.

Do we not have to get "approved" before we start posting here or is that automatic?

How many people join daily? If it's a relatively large number (more than 2-3 per day) then perhaps have one admin or mod do nothing but approve/disapprove new members?

I know zealot said something about socketting, but still... perhaps a short set of questions (not having to do with politics, but throw in the one about GREEN of course lol) - like interests and such things.... you guys seem to know about enough about "watermelon" to spot him/her so why not set it up that way? Should stop it before any posts get made I'd think.

If I'm wrong, just tell me why it's wrong, don't blast, no need for that.

Liche wrote:

oh ok

Internet has lack of emotions

It's hard to be sarcastic or sometimes even serious on the net without the smilies or using <sarcasm> </sarcasm> tags

Doesn't hurt to use those, but still. Too many people get taken serious (especially around here I've found) when they're actually kidding/joking/being sarcastic. Inflections just don't work

https://worldrepublic.forumotion.com/pioneer-camp-f2/was-i-supposed-to-introduce-myself-here-t2926.htm I put this here because I said on March 11th that it's hard to tell when someone's using sarcasm, especially around here, please read that post. It goes to the whole subject matter on the posts I'm being accused of trolling on.

Ok, you've responded, I post in a lot of places OTHER THAN the voting threads... please look at my posts! Only parts of 1-2 pages are devoted to that, the other 4 are not. Nor are they antagonistic in any way

You're also breaking your own rules which I'm posting in another thread.


You also fail to remember something else. I posted my original post in goodwill with my OWN opinion. You harassed and harangued me until it became hostile. Had you done what you did with others, just telling them "your vote doesn't count" then that would have been the end of it. Instead, you just started in about my opinions. Again, opinions are my own. You could have just left it, you didn't.

Thanks for the concern about my health. However, I am opinionated, always have been, always will be. It doesn't mean I'm forcing my opinion on anyone else... just as you "aren't" in your various threads.

It's extremely frustrating to know that the other posts in here don't contain evidence. Even what you originally posted isn't evidence as it is sarcasm and humor - something Liche brought up about us getting together. Did you take that seriously? No, of course not. My statement was made with the same thought in mind. All in fun. But it's not that easy. Everything is a personal affront. Antagonizing to me is part of the debate. It's the opposite side. Did I come on here to demoralize? Certainly not. Ever played devil's advocate? You do realize you're the antagonist in that, yes? I voiced my opinion, you hounded me. I responded in kind and that makes ME bad? Why does it not make you bad when you've done the same thing? Not a rhetorical question here either.

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https://worldrepublic.forumotion.com/spamistan-f17/liche-damn-u-t3052.htm This is what i was talking about. someone who has access to change my information on my profile. Doing it to others means typically an admin has to do it, but the mods here might have access to do this as well. I know on most every forum in the world, admins can make those changes. If this one can't, then this one is broken. Kenzu doesn't seem to be around and that leaves only one other admin. If the mods can do it, then that leaves only a few. The whole "I love Kenzu!!!one!!eleven!!!" crap went way overboard - Changing my email address to "FUCK@hotmail.com" for my MSN messenger is also something I would never have done, it's entirely too crude and not something I'd have done. That messes with everything and people getting in touch with me who could click the "contact with MSN" button. So yes, I'm upset over that. The fact that you're the one bringing charges and have said many times about me being here only because of Kenzu points to you. Liche, I really am sorry I voted for you considering what you've been doing lately. I'm not sure BC would have made a better admin when it comes to that point, but if Zealot and Kenzu agree to make you an admin, WR forums will suffer.


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I am going to let this stand. I will not argue over it. If I'm asked a direct question I will answer. The charge is sabotage, not trolling. That's the charge I have answered and given my responses to the only 2 posts given in evidence.

To recap:
1. Done in jest with humor and sarcasm. Shown by smilies and grins. Not meant to humiliate or show any superiority (intellectually or otherwise).
2. Done to point out the breaking of the forum's own rules which were used against me time and time again. Had it been immediately fixed, I'd have deleted my post and nothing further would have been said.
3. Overreaction from a few people to make sport of someone (me) and to feel unwelcome (again, me). Instead of reading the posts with bias, try looking at the whole of the conversations instead of taking them out of context. Not knowing me or even bothering to know me/get to know me clearly defines how someone would take those statements. Zealot is an admin and could smush me like a bug (yes, that's a Southern saying - Southern USA) - fully antagonizing him would be stupid - I am not stupid. Think about that and consider that yes, the statement was said in jest and stop overreacting.

Good day all.