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PostSubject: veuzuvela continues to shit itself   veuzuvela continues to shit itself Icon_minitimeTue Jan 19, 2010 4:27 am

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8464960.stm

lol I feel a sense of being right and a bit sad for the ppl.

reform socialism fails just as fucking bad as the revolutionary one.

let's make this thread about WHY the Venezuelan' economy is getting fucked up and how you would solve it(rational means pls, not laser kittens)

mah case why it get's fucked up in this order:
Lack of competition.
crash of oil prices.
wrong allocation of resources
underinvestment.

solving
1. privatize
2. your fucked
3. try not to do anything that way you can't get blamed for doing the wrong thing.
4. money form privatizations and oil can be used to build up a proper system of infrastructure and housing, like in normal countries.
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PostSubject: Re: veuzuvela continues to shit itself   veuzuvela continues to shit itself Icon_minitimeTue Jan 19, 2010 6:00 am

Why its fucked up:
Idiots in office
People don't know what their doing
Not enough international support
Relying to much on military

How I would fix it:
Get smarter people in office
Get support from foreign comrades
Offer better oil prices to the international market
Rely less on military
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PostSubject: Re: veuzuvela continues to shit itself   veuzuvela continues to shit itself Icon_minitimeTue Jan 19, 2010 8:54 am

I vote for the lazer kittens. Those sound good.
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PostSubject: Re: veuzuvela continues to shit itself   veuzuvela continues to shit itself Icon_minitimeTue Jan 19, 2010 4:15 pm

Lets talk about how the whole world is fucked up in this crisis, specially Iceland, who is much more fucked then Venezuela.
Lets talk about the huge unemployment and the debts that the bourgeoisie and media tries to ignore, and how they tell us: "after a big crisis comes a even bigger conjuncture!"
Lets talk about how the whole world is involved in this crisis, even Venezuela who also relies on capitalist economic. Lets talk about how Neo-liberals perverted politicians try to avoid the fact that Keynesian politics is the only thing that will save the capitalist economy.
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PostSubject: Re: veuzuvela continues to shit itself   veuzuvela continues to shit itself Icon_minitimeTue Jan 19, 2010 6:01 pm

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the debts that the bourgeoisie and media tries to ignore
You don't watch American and Canadian news, do you?
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PostSubject: Re: veuzuvela continues to shit itself   veuzuvela continues to shit itself Icon_minitimeTue Jan 19, 2010 7:02 pm

Tyrong Kojy wrote:
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the debts that the bourgeoisie and media tries to ignore
You don't watch American and Canadian news, do you?
I watch the danish media, all the time they try or they come with stories about some economic "expert" who says "we have allready reached the bottom! now it can only go up" and the bosses saying to their employese to reduce their payment so the company can get out of the crisis.
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PostSubject: Re: veuzuvela continues to shit itself   veuzuvela continues to shit itself Icon_minitimeTue Jan 19, 2010 8:31 pm

Tyrlop wrote:
Lets talk about how the whole world is fucked up in this crisis, specially Iceland, who is much more fucked then Venezuela.
Lets talk about the huge unemployment and the debts that the bourgeoisie and media tries to ignore, and how they tell us: "after a big crisis comes a even bigger conjuncture!"
Lets talk about how the whole world is involved in this crisis, even Venezuela who also relies on capitalist economic. Lets talk about how Neo-liberals perverted politicians try to avoid the fact that Keynesian politics is the only thing that will save the capitalist economy.

no Iceland went from being SUPERAWSOMENICELANDSUPERFUNTIME to being less SUPERAWSOMENICELANDSUPERFUNTIME

Venezuela went from fucked to fuckder
Venezuelans problem lies in the government fucking shit up it's nationalizations are not doing any good and unrealistic social programs are putting the money in teh wrong places instead of infrastructure and prolonged welfare like Chile which is my happy land because it proves that a basically capitalist country can have social welfare, as well as all the Nordic countries.

Neo-liberals????? are you insane the governments of the world are doing the EXACT opposite to what they want. without the governments tendancy to intervene and promote certain things, new tech, housing or increased lending there wouldn't be such a crisis as this.

and also the world is WELL out of the recession India is back to 7% china to 8-9% and developing countries are growing at an average 3-5%
it's the US that's fucked with an unsustainable defict and an unwinnable war and idiotic politicians that repeatedly fuck things up and do shit they should do, like listen to lobbyists.
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PostSubject: Re: veuzuvela continues to shit itself   veuzuvela continues to shit itself Icon_minitimeTue Jan 19, 2010 9:25 pm

Yeah Chinra & friends are having a economic growth again, yaaaay.

Also lol the Icelandic minister president didn't want to pay Holland the money they owe us from failing IceSave.
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PostSubject: Re: veuzuvela continues to shit itself   veuzuvela continues to shit itself Icon_minitimeSat Feb 13, 2010 1:03 am

Give the means of production to the workers. That should do. Everywhere not only in Venezuela but in the rest of the world.
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